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Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by busupshot83, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. busupshot83

    busupshot83 S.D.N. Vet
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    To my fellow Canadiens out there...

    * I've narrowed my choices down to 10 schools, where I plan on completing the science requirements. FYI, I will be applying only to U.S. dental schools. *

    Your thoughts on the following Canadien Universities:

    Laurentian University of Sudbury
    Trent University
    Acadia University
    Mount Allison University
    Mount Saint Vincent University
    Brandon University
    Okanagan University College
    St. Francis Xavier University
    University College of the Fraser Valley
    University of Prince Edward Island
     
  2. kidcanada

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    Since you're use to chillin in Florida you might not enjoy living in the towns of the schools you listed. If you're serious about applying only to U.S. dental schools, I think it is best you choose a school with recogntion in the States (i.e. U of T, McGill, Queens, Waterloo, UBC, etc.). Boston University, for example, comes to Toronto and gives a talk to U of T students and conducts regional interviews every year. The schools I mentioned graduate the highest number of Canadian students that go to the States for dental school. Canadians seem to do well in US dental schools and by doing so make a name for the school they graduated from. However, if your G.P.A is somewhat low, then it might be easier to bring it up at one of the schools you listed. Good grades are more important than the school you went to. From what I hear, York University has somewhat of a name in the U.S. and also is a school where you can do relatively well in science courses (no disrespect to York). I don't know much about the schools you listed so I can't help you pick from those schools. NEwayz, good luck with your pursuit of gaining admission to dental school.
     
  3. UofT-Girl

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    Hey busupshot83 !

    You're forgetting U of T !!​
     
  4. Woodsy

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    buddy those are the second rate-third rate schools of Canada. I'm gonna say it, York is not a real school, except for its law school it is crap as well.

    The ones you want:
    U of Toronto
    McGill
    Queens
    McMaster
    Waterloo
    Western
    UBC (British Columbia)
    U of Alberta

    But for sciences, Waterloo is also second rate. So may be cross that off the list too.
     
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    Take my initial advice.....stay in Toronto and goto York....you will get a better GPA and thats all that matters....

    UofT: too hard

    McGill: another great option, montreal is a student city, but once again, too hard

    Queens: are you rich and white? Otherwise forget about it.

    McMaster: This university is just OK, but I wouldnt recommend it, unless you want to die of fumes from their steel mills.....would you want to spend 4 years in Hamilton, ONtario <barf> or as my friend calls it, the choda of Canada.

    Waterloo: Unless your asian and/or a computer genius, dont even bother

    Western: HAHAH....not a bad choice....reputation of a party school, but once again, London ONtario......barf

    UBC: Great choice....Ive only heard good things about Vancouver, but UBC is about the same calibre as McGill and UofT, so I can imagine its difficult

    UofAlberta: Ummm....no...Cmon, its Alberta...need I say more

    Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal would be the best cities to study in and I would pick:

    York University - Toronto
    Simon Fraser - Vancouver
    Concordia - Montreal

    you'll be able to pull of a decent gpa at these schools......
     
  6. LestatZinnie

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    I'd stay for recognition in the states go to either UT or Mcgill. I don't even recognize half the schools you listed and as another poster stated, they're probalby second-rate.

    You'll have to work very very hard in UT though to get decent marks- that school is cut-throat. I don't know how competitive mcgill undergrad is. I went to UBC and really liked it, but i don't think its name rings a bell to many Americans. I certainly won't put it in the same level as UT of Mcgill as Avingupta suggests.

    Honestly, if you're open to going into private US schools then you can go to any canadian schools you want including the ones you listed because they're alot less competitive than public schools as you probably already know.
     
  7. busupshot83

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    Well the reason I was staying away from U of T was that Avin told me it was cut-throat. But are all 3 campuses like that? Yeah, the universities I listed ARE second-rate, but I was looking for small class-size, that's all.

    Anyhow, I had no idea that U.S. schools will look down upon certain Canadien universities. I thought many U.S. students attend community colleges and get accepted. Then again, I will be applying as an international student, so I have no idea.

    LestatZinnie, I do plan on applying only to private schools, so if there is any truth in your statement, it should not matter. Correct?

    Thanks to all the peeps that contributed, much appreciated! :thumbup:

    Keep 'em coming :luck:.

    pce,

    bus.
     
  8. mwsung

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    Go to any colleges, doesn't have to be "university", does it?
    do well on courses and ace them all!
     
  9. busupshot83

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    I was under the impression that "college" in Canada is not the same as "college" in the United States. Isn't colleges in Canada the same thing as technical schools in the U.S.?
     
  10. LestatZinnie

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    if you're intending to only apply to private schools, the name of the university will not matter as much or at all since the private schools don't care which state/country/university you're from as long as you meet the pre-reqs, have ok gpa and have the $$ (one school, i think it was nyu or boston, said they don't care about any of the above as long as i prove that i have at least $50KUSD in the bank :eek: )

    and i think you're right- colleges in canada are sort of like technical schools of the US where you get a 'diploma' or some sorts rather than a bachelor degree. :D
     
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    Thanks everyone. Take care.

    bus. :cool:
     
  12. kidcanada

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    U of T Scarborough (where I went) and U of T Erindale (least competitive) are not as cut-throat as U of T St. George. You still get the U of T name and recognition. I don't think the point that you can go to any school if you are only applying to private school applies to international students. If you're a international student you should only be applying to private schools because public schools will most likely just take your app. money and reject you anyway. To level the playing field you should go to a good school like the ones people have been suggesting. Good luck bro.
     
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    Dude.....this is incorrect information. Erindale is NOT the least competitive....at ERindale, marks are not curved, whereas at St. George they are curved. Talk to Chloe in the Academic Skills Centre and she will tell you the hard truth.....I know one SDN member, Nilez is from Erindale, so perhaps she can chime in, but I know for a fact that the class averages for first year Erindale courses are lower than St. George because of this reason. Ive taken classes at both campuses, and my marks were way better downtown than at Erindale...Erindale has grown a lot during the past 4 years, with two new residences and now a third one coming.....and new facilities all over campus.

    Coming from the chemistry program, Erindale is top notch, especially with Dr. Krull and Dr. Georges who are the top in their field......of course, St. Georges faculty will always be the best, but to be honest, as a chem student, I didnt once hear anything about Scarborough.

    I dont know much about UofT Scarborough, but from my friends who have been there, they say it is GHETTO, and the people who go there are either part of gangs or act like they are in high school still......I dont know what they meant by that.

    As far as looks.....I personalyl think Erindale is beautiful.....its situated within wooded surroundings, and its very quiet. I lived on rez one year at Erindale, and in the winter I used to walk to class in the snow through the woods with a few deer sightings.....so I thought it was pretty cool....but the nature stuff gets old after a while, and I went back downtown where all the action is ;)

    By the way....Erindale is pure Indian.........Im East Indian and I find that the lack of diversity gets annoying after a while
     
  14. Nilez

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    YES U ARE RIGHT AVIN

    i'm a bio specialist at erindale campus UT and ask any prof where bio is harder and they'll say erindale...our profs are some of the most well known.... and bio class averages are deadly until u hit 4rth year classes where they are a little better because u have a handful of gunners so the averages are better...

    the rep of erindale being the least competitive is BULL****... no question about it... i think maybe two people max from a group of like 15 of us have stuck with the sciences after first year... its' tough.. its competitve... the profs are not easy ... the courses are not easy... u have got to work ur ass of to get anything above a 3.5 cgpa.... i couldn't even name you more than a couple in my bio classes that have that... do not be fooled....
     
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    My bad. I didn't mean what it sounded like. From what I heard, the students at Erindale are the least cut-throat (i.e. will help you out if you ask). Most people at Scarborough are cool too, but we do have our fair share of competitive individuals who would much rather see you bring down the average than help you out. From my own experience, I believe St. George is most cut-throat in the sense that the students are most competitive. Anyways, U of T is the wrong place to go if you need marks. However, you will see people like myself, Avin, Nilez, and many more get into U.S. dental schools after graduating from U of T. I still say go to York.

    B.T.W. Scarborough is ghetto when comparing it to Erindale and St. George but it's a nice walk in the park compared to the areas around Temple, Howard, Detroit Mercy, and most other urbanized schools in the States. We do have some posers at UTSC, but in general, the people are not anymore ghetto than you'll find at any school.
     
  16. Nilez

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    you're right in some sense KIDCAN... at erindale u know ur gonna see these same people for the next 3-4 years so relationships form between students in the class... i took a few classes downtown and it didn't quite look like anyone knew who anyone else was or cared to for that matter... the campus is so massive and the number of offered courses so huge you don't necessarily see the same people ever again...

    with the more personal relationships at erin come study groups and people more inclined to help fellow students who they've stuck it out with... its def a better atmosphere for those who like that sorta thing.. it comforting in a way... more of a cozy feel to the university....

    there are some ultra-competitive people in every class... but i suppose that's the case whereever u go... there's def an air of competition amongst those pulling for the same post-grad programs... a lot of it is hidden i find though... more subtle attitude because u know everyone and don't wanna come off like a snot... ... downtown it seems the students are just indifferent to each other... a rather gross feeling if u ask me...

    another thing i find about erindale..esp erindale bio... is that there's a way things are done... u get a feel for the marking and the style of lab report and how to deal with certain TA's... by the time ur in 3rd year there are so many hints u've figured out and ways to do things better and connections with people... its really hard i find for transfer students to come in and do well... we had one chick from waterloo come in and she left after one semester and dropped two courses that semester cause she was losing it...

    so whoever started this thread.. if ur lookin to transfer here... make sure u get to know someone and figure out how things work..
     
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    Waterloo's Science program is no longer second rate, due to its fast rising reputation world-wide and its ever improving programs. I'd say its Science program is better than McMaster's, after making comparisons with friends who attend both universities. (Waterloo's also making its first steps towards opening up its own pharmacy school by the way, as a joint co-operation with UofT).

    In my opinion, all the schools listed by Woodsy are FAR better (at least reputation-wise) than the schools listed by the original poster. I haven't even heard of some of the schools listed by the original poster.
     
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    I would vote for you going to McGill. Montreal is the best city in North America as far as I'm concerned. I had an awesome time there. I've also been to many difference Canadian cities and schools, and none of them are quite the same. People recognize McGill in the states, and I don't think its as cut-throat as UofT either, although that might have changed, I don't know.
     
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    I love the location, its like right in the middle of downtown..I also loved everything about the campus. :thumbup:
     
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    McGill is definitely a well known school........if you want prestige, McGill and UofT are the way to go for sure.

    And just one more thing busupshot83.....as a canadian, I would really hope that you start learning how to spell CANADIAN.......unless you're French....
     
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    According to the World Rankings, Vancouver is. It is rated the #2 city in the world. #1 being Bern, Switzerland.
     
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    Have you even been to Simon Fraser?? That school has the highest suicide rate out of all the schools in Canada. If you've been there you would know why. The campus is on top of a semi-mountain in Burnaby, where its always cloudy/gray and rains all the time. To boot, the campus is all gray stone, and the students there look miserable. Not a place I want to spend anytime in.
     
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    Since fellow Canadian students will probably be reading this thread, I would like to ask how your are finding the dept load :eek: , if you are going to an American school? Also, are you thinking of practicing in the states when you graduate, or returning back to the great white north, eh?
     
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    I agree with Dr. BadVibes about Simon Fraser. Vancouver can be beautiful, but its not for everyone. It starts raining in the fall and doesn't stop until the spring. When I was there I was sleepy and soaking wet 24/7
     
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    People, I am the one you should talk to.
    I live in Richmond, just below Vancouver and go to Simon Fraser.

    HELL! The burnaby mountain campus is SO BORING!
    Once you are in, you don't see sunshine until you go home. Well, there is not much sunshine throughout the year though in Vancouver. it always rains rains rains rains rains x infinity... + clouds + $h*t

    Departments/Faculties are all in one big building called Academic Quadrangle (AQ), and it's like living in a spaceship. You are ALWAYS inside.
    Also, there have been frequent reports on seeing a bear or a koyote somewhere near the hiking trail. If you can fight against a bear, come and enjoy your day.

    If you decide to stay in dorm, well... unless you have a car, it's bussing up and down and when it rains, you will be soaked and sandwiched between soaked people.

    Easy GRADE? Not really... I am asian myself (korean) but there are so many brilliant super smart genius asians (esp. Chinese students) whoes GPAs are like 4.33 (straight A+). You gotta be very competitive to survive there. I've seen many students who got kicked out of school and go to local colleges. If you can just study and study and study without thinking about weather, campus location, girls/boys and etc, you will succeed.

    My suggestion: Please Don't come to Vancouver. As someone mentioned, it's good for only certain people. If you are retired, have couple million dollars in your account, Vancouver could be the best place to spend your summer (SUMMER ONLY). Otherwise, this place is just NOTgood.

    If I get licensed in the states, I won't come back here.
     

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