CCLCMer - since the first class won't graduate till 2009, and there is no track record of the students as far as residency, etc., are concerned, what do you think is the advantage of the 5-year program over the conventional 4-year programs from other top-tier, research oriented schools? I am assuming that the conventional MD-Ph.D program will have more recognition compared to this MD-MS (?) program as far as academic medicine is concerned, so am somewhat confused about the benefits of spending an extra year at school.
It's hard to tell right now how residency program directors will react to CCLCM grads because like you said, no one has graduated yet from our program. The first students are now M3s. That being said, I think that there are a couple of things that we will have going for us.
One is that we not only get excellent research training, but also excellent clinical training. The Cleveland Clinic is known for its excellence in clinical care. At most research-oriented medical schools, the top kahunas are people who are researchers. But since CCF is primarily a giant group practice and not an academic center, that's not the case here. In fact, most of our top people are where they are because of their excellence in clinical care. (Our CEO is actually a practicing heart surgeon.) This trickles down to us too. As students, we start seeing patients (on our own) in October of our first year. (The Case UP students do this as well.) That's not to suggest that our research training isn't also extensive, because it is. We actually get quite a lot of research experience integrated throughout our entire curriculum, and not just during the one year set aside for research. So most if not all of us are going to graduate here with substantial records in terms of publications to go with those clinical skills. That being said, this is not a PhD program, and you obviously cannot get as much done in one year of research as you could in three or four years. So we will come out somewhere between straight MDs and MD/PhDs (with the exception, of course, of the two people in my class who came in already having their PhDs
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The second is that we have amazing faculty access here. At most schools, there are a ton of students and only a relatively few faculty. Here, it's the opposite. Not only do the faculty literally outnumber us, they actively work to get students involved with shadowing, research, and other activities. I can't even tell you how many times in the past four and a half months I've had faculty encourage me and my classmates to contact them about doing research, observing surgeries, or getting involved in clinical projects. Since residency applications rely heavily on letters of recommendation, and these prominent people will know us well and be willing to recommend us, I think that will also be an important factor.
Finally, CCF itself trains a ton of residents in every area, and many of these programs are highly regarded. So to be honest, it wouldn't exactly be a horrible thing to stay here for residency. I think some of us will end up choosing to do that over going somewhere else.