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Chances of Getting into NYU or Columbia Dental School

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by conds, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. conds

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    Hi, I am applying for dental school and I need help composing a list of dental schools to apply to. I would like to apply to at least 12. I am incredibly nervous as I have no one in my family that is a dentist nor do I have any friends going through the pre-dent process. I would really like your opinion no matter how critical. Thank you. [EDIT: Will be applying to schools Columbia, MICH, Tufts, NYU, USC, BU and Master programs]

    Undergrad Institution: T-50
    Major: Industrial Engineering
    Minor: Mathematics
    State: FL but seeking to go out of state
    GPA: (estimated) 3.0 cgpa, 2.8 scgpa, 3.7nonsciencegpa - transcript is very colorful
    DAT: TBA [will update when exam has been taken]

    Applying Disadvantaged Status, and in July

    Extracurriculars:
    2000 volunteer service hours
    4 research experiences
    President of 4 orgs and 1 sports team
    3 international experiences (Pakistan, Nigeria, Ghana)
    500+ hours of shadowing (in general surgery w/ focus on mouth), shooting for 500+ hours in dental shadowing by the end of summer

    Employment:
    WHO, EU Center of Excellence, Library of Congress, Securities and Exchange Commission
     
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  3. Carlsaganlvr10

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    It’s difficult to say what your chances would be without your DAT. You definitely need to get a 23+ to offset your lower than average GPA. For Columbia, your GPA is well below their average, so I think it will be difficult to get in there. As for NYU, you might have a chance with a strong DAT. Overall, the fact that you’re planning to apply end of August really hurts your chances especially looking at your low GPA (even with a high DAT).

    Have you considered doing a one year master’s? Shoot for 3.6+
     
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  4. Big Time Hoosier

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    This is absolutely the wrong move! You need to do all you can to get into the University of Florida. NYU will cost you almost $600,000 when all is said and done. Your GPA is low for Columbia, also a pricey school. Looks like you have solid extracurriculars, aside from your work laundering money at the Clinton Foundation.

    Big Hoss
     
  5. conds

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    I have considered it. And I will be applying to masters programs come fall. What about UNC, UPenn, USC and UCLA. Those are the other 4 schools I am considering. Are any of those schools leaning towards students with low GPAs, and high DATs?
     
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    Thanks! I will add UF onto the app. I am not worried about the cost of school right now bc I feel that my chances are slim of getting into dental school regardless. But I will apply to Columbia but have greatly lowered my expectations. Do you have any other recommendations for schools I should consider.
     
  7. Big Time Hoosier

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    UNC is not out of state friendly and is competitive. UPenn is also going to run you $500,000+ and is pretty competitive. UCLA is also very competitive. USC has lower stats, but will run you $600,000. I applied to dental school back in 2010, so others can probably give you better tips on which schools to apply to.

    Big Hoss
     
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  8. dhy01265

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    Advice seems good. Only reason i chose NYU is because i am from the area and I am fortunate enough that my parents are paying for tuition. If the OP is from florida, is there a particular reason you want to go to NY area?
     
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    I want to live and work in NY and that is why I am interested in going to school there. That is why I am applying to schools in the North East
     
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    Your absolute number one goal should be to go to the cheapest school possible. These loans are at 6.8% which means that a 500k loan will grow 32k a year. If you pay 50k the first year only 18k will go towards paying down that loan. You will likely be paying 50k a year for 20 years once you graduate or you will pay 90k a year for like 7 years after you graduate. Either path will be tough if you spend that much on school
     
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  11. conds

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    Wow. I will do my research further into the costs of these schools. Do you have any recommendations on schools I should consider applying to given my stats and/or costs. Thank you
     
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    Unexpected... I was sure you were ~50 years old
     
  13. Big Time Hoosier

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    Maybe based on my hairline and old man strength.

    Big Hoss
     
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    I think it’s more because you sign your name at the end of every post :laugh:
     
  15. ProspectivePostPreDent

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    Applying to a number of schools, including Penn, Columbia, and UCLA, is basically a donation with your sgpa.

    I recommend you look up doc toothache's charts to get a realistic idea of who might accept you (if you blitz the DAT, otherwise you're not in a great spot).

    As far as "inexpensive" schools that might accept you, the only one i'd see as a decent possibility would be lecom, though that doesn't get you out of state.
     
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  17. Namelessking

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    Definitely leave that bit with the Clinton foundation out -_-
     
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    Why? he''s applying to liberal schools.
     
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    I don’t mean to be a Debbie Downer, but a 2.8 sGPA will not get you into Penn, Or UCLA. The bottom 5% sGPA for their classes were 3.21 and 3.13 respectively. North Carolina has a 3.6 GPA average with abysmal OOS acceptance rate, and USC & NYU runs at about 600k BEFORE interest. I would suggest you look up “Orthodontist with 1 Million in student debt” on google and you will find USC grad Mike Meru.

    You have a wide net of strong schools in Florida that have a much more manageable price tag. You have UF, LECOM, and Nova- all of which are under 400k if finances are managed correctly. As a matter of fact- @Stanelz has some great insights on LECOM and has managed it to cost around if not under 300k- cheaper than some state schools.

    In addition to applying to FL schools, I suggest you purchase Adea Dental School Explorer- it’s a phenomenal online tool that lets you look up the stats and demographics of any school. Apply to 15 instead of 12- and add some private schools such as Boston or UNE in your list. Best of Luck.
     
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    You have some interesting ecs. If you can get 24+ on dat as you planned and can eloquently explain your sgpa situation (maybe in your ps) without making it seem like an excuse, then I would say you have a slim shot at schools like columbia (wouldn't get your hopes up though, it will be much like winning a raffle).

    Personally, I would do like a 1 year masters, take your dat while doing so, shadow a little bit, and apply the following year
     
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  21. Big Time Hoosier

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    That's the thing, everyone plans to get a 24+. How does that usually work out for them? A 24+ when I took it in 2010 put you well into the 99th percentile. That's a very small group of people. Of the 12,000 or so people who take the exam in any given year, you'd be one of the top 50-100.

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    I agree. Even if he achieves the improbable, his chances are slim in getting into really competitive schools. The reason why I passively gave him another option he can take
     
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    Thanks all. This was very helpful. I was originally planning on applying to 12 schools but have cut it down to 6 leaving me room to spend money on master's programs in the apparently very probable case I don't get into dental school. I am no longer considering UCLA, UPenn, UNC, and etc, as those schools are clearly out of my lane. Anyways, I will be applying to these schools: MICH, USC, BU, Tufts, NYU, and UF and hopefully sending my applications in early July.
     
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    Good luck!

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