Navy Chances of getting into OMFS or Perio straight after graduation

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3rd year student (in hscp navy) here interested in either OMFS/Perio (still deciding which one). Top 45% of class and GPA around 3.6 ish. Realistically speaking what are my chances?

thanks.
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gatorfan99 said:
Is it possible? Sure.

Does it make you a better specialist to work as a GP for a year or two? Absolutely
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Isn't it basically automatic for Army that you have to snowbird for a year before starting a residency, given that residencies start in July and the vast majority of HPSP recipients need to do BOLC + direct commissioning course?
 
dbl268 said:
Isn't it basically automatic for Army that you have to snowbird for a year before starting a residency, given that residencies start in July and the vast majority of HPSP recipients need to do BOLC + direct commissioning course?
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Yes it is - probably the same in the other services as well
 
thanks for the responses. Does anyone know if we need to take the GRE/ADAT/CBSE for these two specialties?
 
AVB2104 said:
thanks for the responses. Does anyone know if we need to take the GRE/ADAT/CBSE for these two specialties?
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The CBSE is a requirement for Army OMS. That's the only official requirement so far for these specialties.
 
I just want to make sure I'm correct regarding payback. So let say I got into perio program (3 years)
my payback would be
first 3 years (perio)
next 4 years (hpsp/hscp payback)
total : 7 years

am I correct?
 
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vellnueve said:
Assuming it was an inservice program and you started immediately following graduation.
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So what happens during that 4 year payback? Am I going to be strictly doin Perio procedures ?
Also how does FTOS work? Do I need to apply to civilian residencies separately? Is the navy still paying me full salary during the residency? And do I incur additional 3 year payback totalling my commitment to 7 years?

Thank you
 
FTOS for perio hasn't happened since I've been in so I wouldn't worry about it.

As a periodontist you'd mainly do perio but likely would also occasionally do exams.
 
vellnueve said:
FTOS for perio hasn't happened since I've been in so I wouldn't worry about it.

As a periodontist you'd mainly do perio but likely would also occasionally do exams.
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Just wondering.. is the payback the same for omfs? Meaning I will be in the navy for 8 years? For in service training
 
schmoob said:
There were two selected this past FY.
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Doh...

Didn't even really pay attention to this year's results except that a few of my friends were selected for various programs. Perio is badly undermanned, so I suppose it makes sense.

FTOS commitment must be paid back separately from your HPSP commitment.
 
Sorry AVB, I don't mean to hijack your thread but I also have a question regarding doing OMS with Navy so I don't want to open a new thread. What is the tentative timeline to apply for OMS residency? Can I apply for civilian programs too or just with the Navy? I'm currently D1 at UCSF, no class rank or GPA, so I guess I need to do well on the CBSE. I'm planning to take the board this summer then study for the CBSE for about six months and take it during Spring quarter of D2. Any recommendation/advice? Thanks in advance!!
 
You cannot apply to civilian programs until selected for training by the Navy. You will need to apply the winter/spring of your third year to the DUINS board.
 
thank you! Can the CBSE replace GRE or GRE is still recommended?
 
Rules change every year, you'll have to see what they are then. CBSE wasn't technically required a couple years ago, not even sure if it is now. I'd take it anyway just to be safe.

Note for this next year should be out soon, surprised it isn't but likely due to budget concerns.
 
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vellnueve said:
Yes.
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For the DUINS board results that are released every year it states "x" number of applications were reviewed and the following "y" applicants were selected. Does "x" represent the TOTAL number of people that applied to the program? Or do they only select certain number of applicant to review out of the total number of applications?
 
AVB2104 said:
For the DUINS board results that are released every year it states "x" number of applications were reviewed and the following "y" applicants were selected. Does "x" represent the TOTAL number of people that applied to the program? Or do they only select certain number of applicant to review out of the total number of applications?
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same question... I am always shocked to find out how very few applications gets reviewed
 
AVB2104 said:
3rd year student (in hscp navy) here interested in either OMFS/Perio (still deciding which one). Top 45% of class and GPA around 3.6 ish. Realistically speaking what are my chances?

thanks.
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While they are both surgical specialties, perio and OMS are two very different animals IMO. If there is ANY doubt in your mind about which one to pursue, you should complete an AEGD where you will spend a decent amount of time with each and see how training and practice of the specialties differ. You're going to be doing this a long time and if you're not committed, to OS in particular, you may find yourself wanting to drop out.
 
CougarDental said:
While they are both surgical specialties, perio and OMS are two very different animals IMO. If there is ANY doubt in your mind about which one to pursue, you should complete an AEGD where you will spend a decent amount of time with each and see how training and practice of the specialties differ. You're going to be doing this a long time and if you're not committed, to OS in particular, you may find yourself wanting to drop out.
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thank you for the advice. And yes I am still unsure about which specialty to enter and therefore will most likely be doing an AEGD .
 
Big Time Hoosier said:
You'll also likely need a very solid score to make up for the not so solid class rank.

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do you think the committee look at out transcripts in detail? the reason my class rank isn't so hot is because I got a lot of B's and one or two C's in classes like (dental anatomy, occlusion, removable, operative) in the beginning (my hand skills then got much better and started getting B+ and A's in these dental classes).
Most of my science classes such as gross anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, pathology are in the A's and few B+.

Do you think they take this into consideration?

thank you
 
AVB2104 said:
do you think the committee look at out transcripts in detail? the reason my class rank isn't so hot is because I got a lot of B's and one or two C's in classes like (dental anatomy, occlusion, removable, operative) in the beginning (my hand skills then got much better and started getting B+ and A's in these dental classes).
Most of my science classes such as gross anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, pathology are in the A's and few B+.

Do you think they take this into consideration?

thank you
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I'm not sure if they'll go through your transcript course by course. I'm just going to spout off what I believe, so anyone with a better understanding please correct me.

GPA is relative from school to school. Class rank is a much better selection factor. I imagine class rank for those straight out of school or close to it is more important than for those with some time in service. I think in years past if your school didn't rank, DUINS required the GRE for all specialties. Again, someone correct me if I'm off. The ADAT and CBSE are much, much more applicable to dentistry than the GRE so I wouldn't be surprised if the Navy asks for scores in the near future, if not already or this upcoming cycle. This may help you overcome your rank, provided you nail down a very solid score.

Personally, I think you may be a long shot for OMFS right out of school. You'd probably struggle if you were applying on the civilian side as well, from what I know. But what do I know? I'm an aspiring pediatric dentist. To be competitive in the Navy, you're probably looking at doing a GPR and a deployment or two before being selected.

Perio may be a different animal. Perio is only something like 60% manned right now, as apposed to OMFS around 100% manned. You are much more likely to snag a perio residency straight out of school. But, don't be surprised if you still needed a GPR/AEGD and a tour under your belt first.

Best of luck to you.

Big Hoss
 
AVB2104 said:
do you think the committee look at out transcripts in detail? the reason my class rank isn't so hot is because I got a lot of B's and one or two C's in classes like (dental anatomy, occlusion, removable, operative) in the beginning (my hand skills then got much better and started getting B+ and A's in these dental classes).
Most of my science classes such as gross anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, pathology are in the A's and few B+.

Do you think they take this into consideration?

thank you
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I think that one of the recent pedo selectees applied four years in a row. If it's something you want, bust your butt in school and in the Fleet and you can very likely make it happen - just maybe not on your preferred timeline. The Navy loves seeing commitment and they reward it. Didn't want to leave you on a downer.

Big Hoss
 
Thank you for the advice guys. I am still not 100% sure what I want to do so I'll probably just do an AEGD/GPR. Hope my gpa/rank is good enough for that
 
Big Time Hoosier said:
I think that one of the recent pedo selectees applied four years in a row. If it's something you want, bust your butt in school and in the Fleet and you can very likely make it happen - just maybe not on your preferred timeline. The Navy loves seeing commitment and they reward it. Didn't want to leave you on a downer.

Big Hoss
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I applied 4 years in a row myself
 
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FrogH20 said:
What did you do during those four years to better yourself as a candidate? Thanks.
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Worked my ass off at my primary job, took an overseas assignment, volunteered for a lot of extra duties, externed at all three Navy programs, took the CBSE, got good recs from my CO and a few others.
 
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vellnueve said:
Worked my ass off at my primary job, took an overseas assignment, volunteered for a lot of extra duties, externed at all three Navy programs, took the CBSE, got good recs from my CO and a few others.
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So would going to Okinawa or somewhere in Japan be looked upon favorably, even it's just an assignment at a dental clinic?
 
In that it means you've done an operational tour, sure. The more important thing with an assignment like that would be an opportunity to work directly with a Navy OMFS who, if so inclined, could write you a recommendation.
 
anyone knows when the DUINS result is released? it says on the website that it's in June but what date? Also do we get an email if we get accepted or not?
 
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