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I was going on immediate context...I don't have the mental fortitude to delve into the post history of everyone I talk to on here.
Since we are on a religious thread you are forgiven
I was going on immediate context...I don't have the mental fortitude to delve into the post history of everyone I talk to on here.
!"The women are to keep silent in assemblies; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves, just as the Law also says.
If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Bible passages always inspire something in me!
Sure, fine...I never even disagreed with you, it was only intended to be a small reminder that people tend to get in to bigger trouble quicker for stupider things in threads like this. It was not intended to be a big deal or start any discussion whatsoever. Sorry to rock your boat.it had nothing to do with their posts "enthusing about their religion," it was about them being a dick to people because of their religion.
Proverbs 31:6
As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.
just because your prophet can be resurrected doesn't mean an 11 year old thread should be.
also, @PREDOCSIMP is the worst poster ever.
@PREDOCSIMP Same person to call me a bigot for saying he shouldn't equate a persons identity of being homosexual to a simple preference.. Not much tact there
I was going on immediate context...I don't have the mental fortitude to delve into the post history of everyone I talk to on here.
this. i honestly cant tell if @PREDOCSIMP is a troll or just missing a couple chromosomes based on their post history
Please stop. This is not professional.
Right...I didn't read your post history, have no intention of doing so, and the only thing I have said about you was that you were tactful in this thread. I'm not sure what you're asking me to STOP?The post history has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Please STOP.
It's funny seeing all the Christians try and play off the OT because it has so much bogus stuff in it. It's like they don't understand that the NT is even worse. Sure, God flooded the earth with water in genesis but he's going to do it again per revelations, just with blood this time around. There's some dark, archaic nonsense strewn throughout these books, especially the eschatological parts.
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals – as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.
Ezekiel 23 : 19-20
Ezekiel is a fun book guise
They made no attacks, they just posted a quote that inspires something in them.you're taking things out of context to attack a religion that you don't understand
They made no attacks, they just posted a quote that inspires something in them.
Do you feel that christians are being attacked based on these quotes? lolI think you are more than capable of understanding implications and sarcasm, all the while having the ability to make inferences without having the underlying tone of a person's messages spelled out letter by letter for you.
This post is unprofessional.
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Leave that post in another thread. Personal attacks are not advisable.
The post history has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Please STOP.
Please stop. This is not professional.
Still not an attack.I think you are more than capable of understanding implications and sarcasm, all the while having the ability to make inferences without having the underlying tone of a person's messages spelled out letter by letter for you.
I'm impressed by your skill to infer that the poster does not understand Christianity.I think you are more than capable of understanding implications and sarcasm, all the while having the ability to make inferences without having the underlying tone of a person's messages spelled out letter by letter for you.
I think it's possible to make a distinction between a person's faith and the literal interpretation of an ancient text. The vast majority of Christians I've met, which includes people from the South, do not take everything in the Bible literally, yet they're still very adamant about their faith.I'm impressed by your skill to infer that the poster does not understand Christianity.
You know itThey made no attacks, they just posted a quote that inspires something in them.
I understand that very well, I was raised Catholic . There was still nothing in the post by @J Senpai that indicated that he didn't understand Christianity.I think it's possible to make a distinction between a person's faith and the literal interpretation of an ancient text. The vast majority of Christians I've met, which includes people from the South, do not take everything in the Bible literally, yet they're still very adamant about their faith.
@hoihaie Hm, pointing out the nasty things in an archaic holy book constitutes an attack? How?Yea, I don't think, even originally, this was about creating an open debate re: what anyone believes about God or Scripture.
Let a few go sometimes. This a major necro-bump thread anyway.
And just b/c a person thinks s/he understands Scripture or someone's beliefs, doesn't not make it necessarily so. So out and out attacking like this is unfair.
OTOH if anyone is going to post even perhaps a well-intentioned thread like this, or resurrect it after like 9 years or so, people have to be ready for the negative people that can hardly wait to pile on. ****Late entry: OH I stand corrected. It's > 11 years old--> 2004 not 06. This just gets better and better. Does SDN have threads accessible from ancient Egypt? LOL
Yea, J, again. Let a few go once in a while.
I understand quite well. I was a believer for 21 years and my brother is a biblical scholar with whom I regularly discuss scripture. Saying that someone's religion is full of scary nonsense juxtaposed with the happy clappy Jesus verses is not an attack nor is it born of ignorance. It's a different perspective.I understand that very well, I was raised Catholic . There was still nothing in the post by @J Senpai that indicated that he didn't understand Christianity.
I understand that very well, I was raised Catholic . There was still nothing in the post by @J Senpai that indicated that he didn't understand Christianity.
I agree that the text contains scariness juxtaposed with a "benevolent Jesus." I was just trying to point out that plenty of people who call themselves Christians ignore the stuff about floods, misogyny, winged-beasts etc, and just focus on being good people while believing in Jesus. Or maybe we're talking about different things...I understand quite well. I was a believer for 21 years and my brother is a biblical scholar with whom I regularly discuss scripture. Saying that someone's religion is full of scary nonsense juxtaposed with the happy clappy Jesus verses is not an attack nor is it born of ignorance. It's a different perspective.
The question as to whether or not that's intellectually honest comes into question, but almost all Christians and other religious people I know fall into that category.I agree that the text contains scariness juxtaposed with a "benevolent Jesus." I was just trying to point out that plenty of people who call themselves Christians ignore the stuff about floods, misogyny, winged-beasts etc, and just focus on being good people while believing in Jesus. Or maybe we're talking about different things...
In NYC, plenty of Christians are pro-choice, pro-women, pro-gay rights, etc. Whether or not you think it's intellectually honest isn't relevant to their personal faith or how they choose to label themselves imo.The question as to whether or not that's intellectually honest comes into question, but almost all Christians and other religious people I know fall into that category.
Exactly. This is a public forum, and if you post a topic, it is an invitation for that subject to be discussed by the forum community...even those who disagree with you.How I see it is if you want to openly profess your faith, then be welcomed to be openly critiqued about it .. I am a devote catholic but I believe this is a personal relationship between my God and community .. Dont see the need to be posting it on the internet but that's just my personal view and no way saying what the posters are doing are wrong
OK, I'll play. My two favorite quotes, quite appropriate for scientists:
Psalm 19; The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Job 12:8: Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee:
A large portion of the book was written before the advent of science or the scientific method. I don't see how the bible speaks to science.I always enjoy the little science tidbits in there. I feel like most of the conflict between science and religion is a matter of how a scripture is interpreted.
I always enjoy the little science tidbits in there. I feel like most of the conflict between science and religion is a matter of how a scripture is interpreted.
A large portion of the book was written before the advent of science or the scientific method. I don't see how the bible speaks to science.
Ironically, Job is perhaps the oldest book in the bible.The quote from Job is written on the entrance to the Hall of the Earth in the American Museum of Natural History (only the world's best museum!)
Look up the concept of Spinoza's God.
Then, for kicks, look up images of the known Universe, especially those of the cosmic web. It reminds me of a neural net, and the very first time I saw a pic of it, this agnostic thought "That's the mind of God"!
That's as much theology as Goro wants to or can get into.
Ironically, Job is perhaps the oldest book in the bible.
That picture is incredible! I saw it first on an episode of "The Universe", I believe. For me, the idea that a mind created it would take away from the raw, primordial power that such an image has.
damn. Any deeper and i'll see Adele rolling in itMy notion is that it IS a mind!