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What are your plans for the summer? 🙂
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Well we're not actually done until the end of June but as soon as that's over I'm heading to DC for a fellowship at the NIH until we start classes again at the end of August. No real time off but DC's gonna be a blast (and expensive).
S
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Depending on funding...should I get it, then research at MIT, if not, then going home to Miami and enjoy the last summer off
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NDBE Part I on July 14, 2003
OMFS externship either at Univ. of Minnesota or Univ. of Florida Jacksonville
Some drinking, booty shaking, and living it up! 😀
School will start back up on August 11, 2003.
OMFS externship either at Univ. of Minnesota or Univ. of Florida Jacksonville
Some drinking, booty shaking, and living it up! 😀
School will start back up on August 11, 2003.
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hey Yah-E,
what kind of work will you be expected to do as an extern?
I'm done 2nd year and still I don't have much of a clue as
far as anesthesia or tooth extraction. So if I went and did
an extern I probably could only shadow others and maybe
comfort patients 🙁
for my summer I'm just assisting at the school clinic, not
a whole lot of stress and really not giving it much thought
now due to the tremendous pressure of the finals 🙂
what kind of work will you be expected to do as an extern?
I'm done 2nd year and still I don't have much of a clue as
far as anesthesia or tooth extraction. So if I went and did
an extern I probably could only shadow others and maybe
comfort patients 🙁
for my summer I'm just assisting at the school clinic, not
a whole lot of stress and really not giving it much thought
now due to the tremendous pressure of the finals 🙂
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Yah E y in the world r u taking the national board I so early?
Blue Tooth, my friend's doing a research at NIH too... can i crash at your place if i visit? 😛
Frank what school do you go to?
I haven't completely decided on my plans yet, but want to take a ton of useless fun classes such as floral arragement, bartending, sewing, jewerlry making, and hopefully live in a mall etc etc... (It's about time i did more girly stuff...😛)
also i MIGHT study for the GMATs (just to see how i do)
and I might do an externship (but the one that was set up in Taiwan was cancelled cause of SARS)
and I'll probably do research if I get a grant...
Blue Tooth, my friend's doing a research at NIH too... can i crash at your place if i visit? 😛
Frank what school do you go to?
I haven't completely decided on my plans yet, but want to take a ton of useless fun classes such as floral arragement, bartending, sewing, jewerlry making, and hopefully live in a mall etc etc... (It's about time i did more girly stuff...😛)
also i MIGHT study for the GMATs (just to see how i do)
and I might do an externship (but the one that was set up in Taiwan was cancelled cause of SARS)
and I'll probably do research if I get a grant...
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At Univ. of Florida Jacksonville, according to the Assistant Director, Dr. Fattahi:
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YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A NEW 2ND YEAR DENTAL STUDENT ROTATING AS AN EXTERN ON OUR SERVICE WOULD INCLUDE:
A. ASSISTING OMS RESIDENTS IN DENTO-ALVEOLAR SURGERY
B. ASSISTING OMS RESIDENTS IN REPAIR OF FACIAL INJURIES IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT
C. ASSISTING OMS RESIDENTS AND ATTENDINGS IN THE OPERATING ROOM
D. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL EXTERNS BE ALLOWED TO TREAT PATIENTS UNSUPERVISED!
Tirbod Fattahi, DDS, MD
Assistant Professor
Facial Aesthetic & Reconstructive Surgery
Division of Maxillofacial Surgery
University of Florida--Shands, Jacksonville
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At Univ. of MN:
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During the rotation, externs are expected to:
-attend all morning surgical rounds. Each week there is a Tuesday a.m. surgical planning round which convenes at 6:30 a.m. in the Clark Conference room (7-168 Moos Tower). On Thursdays, there are patient teaching rounds which meet at Fairview University Medical Center at 6:15 a.m. (the specific area for the latter is anounced by the chief resident the night prior). Proper attire and promptness is required for these rounds.
-participate in supervised clinical procedures. These procedures include minor exodontia, assisting on surgical procedures in the clinic and/or operating room, anesthesia, and history and physical examinations.
-perform 1 to 2 nights of overnight call with an oral and maxilofacial surgery resident at Hennepin County Medical Center (Level I trauma center)
-attend all didactic courses including core curriculum (Thursday afternoons 1 p.m. to 5 p.m.); Hennepin Trauma Conference (first Monday of each month) and Regions Hospital Trauma Conference (first Thursday of each month)
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Another example, for spring break just two weeks ago, I spent 2 days with the Oral Surgery department at Univ. of MN School of Dentistry, here's what I experienced:
1) morning rounds at university affiliated hospital with faculty and third-year residents
2) observe and assist various surgeries in the OR (artheroscopy, grafts, and extractions). All surgeries I saw had at least 8-9 people in the OR. Anesthesiologist, anesthesiology residents, surgery techs, oral surgeons, oral surgeon residents, GPR residents, OMFS Fellowship residents, and at times even rotating medical students. Two 3rd-year residents performed all the surgeries while all of us observed. I was the only one that assisted besides the surgical techs. Me, a D1!!!
3) this was my first time experiencing Oral surgery not in a school clinical setting and at an off site in a hospital. It was a brief taste of the hectic environment in the surgical ORs. It was cool as hell!
4) the two days that I was there, my day started at 6:30 AM with staff and resident meetings, rounds at 7 AM, and surgeries started as early as 7:30 AM. I decide to end my days at 1 PM, but that's just because it was my spring break.
5) since I know the director of OMFS at Univ of MN from my undergraduate days and I came and visited during my spring break, the director suggested that I apply for their externship opportunity described above this summer after my Part I board exam. He said that I'll even get a pager for on calls! They really want to have the externs to get a full experience of what an OMFS residency will be like.
I had a great two-day "mini externship" during my spring break, I even collected 50+ good extracted teeth for my endo courses next year!!
StarGirl:
I'm taking my Part I early for the following reasons:
1) I'm able to, allowed by my dental school
2) to get it over with
3) if I do well, I can use my Part I scores to apply for more externship for my summer after second year
4) to get it over with
5) if I do well, I'm one step closer to my OMFS residency goal
I'm actually really glad that I get this opportunity to embark on this exam this summer.
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YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A NEW 2ND YEAR DENTAL STUDENT ROTATING AS AN EXTERN ON OUR SERVICE WOULD INCLUDE:
A. ASSISTING OMS RESIDENTS IN DENTO-ALVEOLAR SURGERY
B. ASSISTING OMS RESIDENTS IN REPAIR OF FACIAL INJURIES IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT
C. ASSISTING OMS RESIDENTS AND ATTENDINGS IN THE OPERATING ROOM
D. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL EXTERNS BE ALLOWED TO TREAT PATIENTS UNSUPERVISED!
Tirbod Fattahi, DDS, MD
Assistant Professor
Facial Aesthetic & Reconstructive Surgery
Division of Maxillofacial Surgery
University of Florida--Shands, Jacksonville
-------------------------------------------------------------
At Univ. of MN:
-------------------------------------------------------------
During the rotation, externs are expected to:
-attend all morning surgical rounds. Each week there is a Tuesday a.m. surgical planning round which convenes at 6:30 a.m. in the Clark Conference room (7-168 Moos Tower). On Thursdays, there are patient teaching rounds which meet at Fairview University Medical Center at 6:15 a.m. (the specific area for the latter is anounced by the chief resident the night prior). Proper attire and promptness is required for these rounds.
-participate in supervised clinical procedures. These procedures include minor exodontia, assisting on surgical procedures in the clinic and/or operating room, anesthesia, and history and physical examinations.
-perform 1 to 2 nights of overnight call with an oral and maxilofacial surgery resident at Hennepin County Medical Center (Level I trauma center)
-attend all didactic courses including core curriculum (Thursday afternoons 1 p.m. to 5 p.m.); Hennepin Trauma Conference (first Monday of each month) and Regions Hospital Trauma Conference (first Thursday of each month)
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Another example, for spring break just two weeks ago, I spent 2 days with the Oral Surgery department at Univ. of MN School of Dentistry, here's what I experienced:
1) morning rounds at university affiliated hospital with faculty and third-year residents
2) observe and assist various surgeries in the OR (artheroscopy, grafts, and extractions). All surgeries I saw had at least 8-9 people in the OR. Anesthesiologist, anesthesiology residents, surgery techs, oral surgeons, oral surgeon residents, GPR residents, OMFS Fellowship residents, and at times even rotating medical students. Two 3rd-year residents performed all the surgeries while all of us observed. I was the only one that assisted besides the surgical techs. Me, a D1!!!
3) this was my first time experiencing Oral surgery not in a school clinical setting and at an off site in a hospital. It was a brief taste of the hectic environment in the surgical ORs. It was cool as hell!
4) the two days that I was there, my day started at 6:30 AM with staff and resident meetings, rounds at 7 AM, and surgeries started as early as 7:30 AM. I decide to end my days at 1 PM, but that's just because it was my spring break.
5) since I know the director of OMFS at Univ of MN from my undergraduate days and I came and visited during my spring break, the director suggested that I apply for their externship opportunity described above this summer after my Part I board exam. He said that I'll even get a pager for on calls! They really want to have the externs to get a full experience of what an OMFS residency will be like.
I had a great two-day "mini externship" during my spring break, I even collected 50+ good extracted teeth for my endo courses next year!!
StarGirl:
I'm taking my Part I early for the following reasons:
1) I'm able to, allowed by my dental school
2) to get it over with
3) if I do well, I can use my Part I scores to apply for more externship for my summer after second year
4) to get it over with
5) if I do well, I'm one step closer to my OMFS residency goal
I'm actually really glad that I get this opportunity to embark on this exam this summer.
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Yah-E,
thanks for the detailed outline of your prospective externships.
The MN one seems a bit more vague in that you "participate"
in the procedures which at first threw me off as perhaps being
too scary. When you assisted during spring break how would
you rate the learning experience? Were the residents verbose
while performing surgeries? As part of my o.surg course I had
to assist (more like observe) upper-year colleagues extract
all 8's from a patient and I liked how they explained everything
to us during the procedure. I didn't like the difficulty they had
with taking out an relatively easy tooth (not impacted/carious/
tilted but still broke a root tip). Makes me a bit scared of how
things will turn out when it's my turn with the knife next year.
BTW what did you assist with, other than perhaps suction?
StarGirl,
I'm a canadian at a canadian school (western). Gotta love
(relatively) cheap tuition 🙂
thanks for the detailed outline of your prospective externships.
The MN one seems a bit more vague in that you "participate"
in the procedures which at first threw me off as perhaps being
too scary. When you assisted during spring break how would
you rate the learning experience? Were the residents verbose
while performing surgeries? As part of my o.surg course I had
to assist (more like observe) upper-year colleagues extract
all 8's from a patient and I liked how they explained everything
to us during the procedure. I didn't like the difficulty they had
with taking out an relatively easy tooth (not impacted/carious/
tilted but still broke a root tip). Makes me a bit scared of how
things will turn out when it's my turn with the knife next year.
BTW what did you assist with, other than perhaps suction?
StarGirl,
I'm a canadian at a canadian school (western). Gotta love
(relatively) cheap tuition 🙂
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Studying for boards Part I in July and takin' Genreal Pathology this summer is addition to workin' at the school restocking the freshmen, softmore and junior labs. First year is over........could have done better, could have done worse. Can't wait to spend more time in clinic and lab and less in general science.
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I goto VCU, this is the first year that freshmen are taking the NB Part I.
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Summer - seems so far away!!!!!! After my finals are over June 13th, I'm planning on camping/white water rafting for an extended weekened (provided all the details work out!), and then will be getting my research cranked back up again. Hopefully my thesis project will take a more definate shape this summer =) I think i'm taking a few grad seminars, otherwise the plan is simply to be super-productive in the research lab and to have AS MUCH FUN AS POSSIBLE throughout the dentalschoolstressfree summer =) Next year - dental school part time (no lab classes) -- I'm still reeling in shock a little -- but am excited about (1) the change in pace and (2) not having to marginalize my research...
Live it up kids!
Live it up kids!
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Kung-Foo,
Why are u doing so much research? Are u in a special program or just doing it for summer job?
Why are u doing so much research? Are u in a special program or just doing it for summer job?
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The idea behind taking the NB Part I after the first year is: 1. Improve scores because all of the basic science is in the first year. 2. To allow more time in the clinic starting the second year.
and to make the second year a little easier (this has historicaly been the "killer" year.
The problems are: 1. We have no occlusion class the first year, 2. General pathology is pushed into the first six weeks of the summer.
I will tell you in July if I am prepared for NBI. I believe that the school could help us out by getting rid of the big Genetics class we have (clinical genetics if you believe that) and putting in occlusion and more of an oral anatomy class.
Anyway, I think it is a good idea, let's hope it works.
and to make the second year a little easier (this has historicaly been the "killer" year.
The problems are: 1. We have no occlusion class the first year, 2. General pathology is pushed into the first six weeks of the summer.
I will tell you in July if I am prepared for NBI. I believe that the school could help us out by getting rid of the big Genetics class we have (clinical genetics if you believe that) and putting in occlusion and more of an oral anatomy class.
Anyway, I think it is a good idea, let's hope it works.
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First year, we've had:
Dental Anatomy
Tooth Morphology
Occlusion I
All three of these courses will arm us for the Part I board.
Pathology, we're in the same boat. Since this course is a second year first semester course, for those of us at Nova taking that Part I this July, we'll have to do a "self-study" for Pathology.
In addition, if we score a standardize score of 85/100 or higher in the Microbiology/Pathology section of the Part I board, our Pathology course next Fall will be waived! We don't have to take it anymore if we don't want to. How cool is that? A little incentive to do well.
Dental Anatomy
Tooth Morphology
Occlusion I
All three of these courses will arm us for the Part I board.
Pathology, we're in the same boat. Since this course is a second year first semester course, for those of us at Nova taking that Part I this July, we'll have to do a "self-study" for Pathology.
In addition, if we score a standardize score of 85/100 or higher in the Microbiology/Pathology section of the Part I board, our Pathology course next Fall will be waived! We don't have to take it anymore if we don't want to. How cool is that? A little incentive to do well.
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