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DaisyBuchanan said:
I agree with the inefficient usage of time aspect, I just think dissecting is fun and it's amazing how much variation there is between different donors. For example, my donor didn't have a right coronary artery. Like, whaaat? We didn't just cut it off, the prof spent 10 minutes looking for it on our heart, and couldn't find its origin or anything.

Plus, reference the Facebook group for the other reason I have fun in anatomy. 😎

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😱:wow:
 
WTF no right coronary artery? Did his left one just go all the way around?
 
Isoprop said:
WTF no right coronary artery? Did his left one just go all the way around?
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I remember going to this DO school's lab a long time ago and they had a patient who was normal physiologically, except the connection points of one of his arteries made all of his blood flow "backwards" through the circulation. Really weird.
 
DaisyBuchanan said:
I agree with the inefficient usage of time aspect, I just think dissecting is fun and it's amazing how much variation there is between different donors. For example, my donor didn't have a right coronary artery. Like, whaaat? We didn't just cut it off, the prof spent 10 minutes looking for it on our heart, and couldn't find its origin or anything.

Plus, reference the Facebook group for the other reason I have fun in anatomy. 😎

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People who aren't in the facebook group might misinterpret this... big time... :laugh:
 
FlowRate said:
Our anatomy course is only like 6 weeks long. We don't start dissections until the second week. Major drawback imo.
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This actually sounds awesome. If that was the case here, I would be done with Anatomy right now! 👍
 
FlowRate said:
Our anatomy course is only like 6 weeks long. We don't start dissections until the second week. Major drawback imo.
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Not until the second week, really? Ours is 7 weeks and they threw us right into it. I do wish they'd given us a short demonstration on the tools and techniques for using them first, though. That's about my biggest complaint.
 
Geekchick921 said:
Not until the second week, really? Ours is 7 weeks and they threw us right into it. I do wish they'd given us a short demonstration on the tools and techniques for using them first, though. That's about my biggest complaint.
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Is babby made yet?
 
Just had first anatomy exam.... I was sad that not many of our cadavers were actually used for questions. The rest were just "name these 16 things on the radiograph in 2 minutes" and "write this blood pathway with 2 anastamoses and 12 parts in 2 min". Silly.

Our anatomy is until December too. I'm cool with it, though. I'll definitely remember it better this way.
 
lisi326 said:
Just had first anatomy exam.... I was sad that not many of our cadavers were actually used for questions. The rest were just "name these 16 things on the radiograph in 2 minutes" and "write this blood pathway with 2 anastamoses and 12 parts in 2 min". Silly.

Our anatomy is until December too. I'm cool with it, though. I'll definitely remember it better this way.
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That... doesn't even sound like a practical type of exam.
 
NickNaylor said:
That... doesn't even sound like a practical type of exam.
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yeah, that was my thought too. If you're gonna do that, why not have a practical and written portion so I don't have to speed-figure out/write down stupid things that I could figured out if I'd had more than 2 min?

Eh, our anatomy isn't the best run course in the world. Actually, all of our classes are pretty poorly run/taught. It's the extracurricular stuff that makes the school awesome.
 
lisi326 said:
yeah, that was my thought too. If you're gonna do that, why not have a practical and written portion so I don't have to speed-figure out/write down stupid things that I could figured out if I'd had more than 2 min?
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This is what we do. The final is 50 questions written and 50 questions practical. For the practical we rotate through stations in the lab, but it's not all cadavers. Some of the stations are imaging studies or on bones/skeletons. Most of the questions are just "Identify this structure" but some are more like "Name one of the muscles that this nerve innervates."

We only get 1 minute per question, though. That part's kinda rough.
 
Geekchick921 said:
This is what we do. The final is 50 questions written and 50 questions practical. For the practical we rotate through stations in the lab, but it's not all cadavers. Some of the stations are imaging studies or on bones/skeletons. Most of the questions are just "Identify this structure" but some are more like "Name one of the muscles that this nerve innervates."

We only get 1 minute per question, though. That part's kinda rough.
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That sounds similar to what we do. Our practicals are 75 questions (25 radiology/embryology, 50 cadaver) and the written portion is of varying length. We've got a minute for each practical question. Most of the cadaver questions are "identify this," but some are "what innervates this" or, my favorite, "identify this structure on the corresponding CT" with an image of the CT on TV.

Good times.
 
NickNaylor said:
That sounds similar to what we do. Our practicals are 75 questions (25 radiology/embryology, 50 cadaver) and the written portion is of varying length. We've got a minute for each practical question. Most of the cadaver questions are "identify this," but some are "what innervates this" or, my favorite, "identify this structure on the corresponding CT" with an image of the CT on TV.

Good times.
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Rads in your future, Nick? 🙂
 
Geekchick921 said:
This is what we do. The final is 50 questions written and 50 questions practical. For the practical we rotate through stations in the lab, but it's not all cadavers. Some of the stations are imaging studies or on bones/skeletons. Most of the questions are just "Identify this structure" but some are more like "Name one of the muscles that this nerve innervates."

We only get 1 minute per question, though. That part's kinda rough.
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Ugh I would rather have 1 minute and have "identify this" questions than 2 minutes and "write a flowchart for how you could get blood to structure A (spleen artery) with a blockage at structure B (celiac trunk)." And I wish we were tested on bones too. My knowledge of musculoskeletal anatomy is pretty useless here.
 
Does anyone else have videos on their written exams? Like a video of a patient showing some deficit and asking what nerves are effected? That kind of threw me off.
 
Geekchick921 said:
This is what we do. The final is 50 questions written and 50 questions practical. For the practical we rotate through stations in the lab, but it's not all cadavers. Some of the stations are imaging studies or on bones/skeletons. Most of the questions are just "Identify this structure" but some are more like "Name one of the muscles that this nerve innervates."

We only get 1 minute per question, though. That part's kinda rough.
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I only get 1 min per question too... 🙁

Half first-order, half second-order.
 
Geekchick921 said:
This is what we do. The final is 50 questions written and 50 questions practical. For the practical we rotate through stations in the lab, but it's not all cadavers. Some of the stations are imaging studies or on bones/skeletons. Most of the questions are just "Identify this structure" but some are more like "Name one of the muscles that this nerve innervates."

We only get 1 minute per question, though. That part's kinda rough.
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This is the same as what the professors have said our practical will be like. I guess I will find out tomorrow when I take it! I just calculated that I can get a 0% on this practical and still pass this first block, so...hello, 10PM early bedtime, how you doin'?
 
Suncrusher said:
This is the same as what the professors have said our practical will be like. I guess I will find out tomorrow when I take it! I just calculated that I can get a 0% on this practical and still pass this first block, so...hello, 10PM early bedtime, how you doin'?
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I'd need a 40 on the final to fail the block, because it's 40% of the grade for the course. Part of me just wants to say F it and dick around tonight, but I won't.
 
Geekchick921 said:
I'd need a 40 on the final to fail the block, because it's 40% of the grade for the course. Part of me just wants to say F it and dick around tonight, but I won't.
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sucks, bro. mine is just 15% (of the entire block; it's 50% of anatomy) 😎

is your baby going to exhibit the proper anatomy-final-avoiding timing?
 
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Suncrusher said:
sucks, bro. mine is just 15% 😎

is your baby going to exhibit the proper anatomy-final-avoiding timing?
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I don't have the first damn clue. Hopefully. I got the okay to take the practical part of the exam with the first group of tables because otherwise I'd be putzing around for more than 4 hours between it and the written and that just seems like it's begging for something to happen.
 
I kind of squee'd when there were MR images in lecture this morning. btw really don't want to be a radiologist.
 
NickNaylor said:
The radiology portion of our course is honestly my favorite part. It's definitely got me interested.
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Yeah, I definitely enjoy it too. It might be because it is one of the few actual applications of anatomy we have right now, or the program director who teaches that segment does a really good job of being interactive and sharing her enthusiasm.
 
Longshanks said:
Yeah, I definitely enjoy it too. It might be because it is one of the few actual applications of anatomy we have right now, or the program director who teaches that segment does a really good job of being interactive and sharing her enthusiasm.
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In my haste I read this as "attractive."
 
Today I was dissecting a scrotum, and a little bit from the testis area flew off my scapula and onto my lab partner's lip. Most hilarious moment ever. Everyone in the anatomy lab probably though I was crazy as I couldn't stop laughing, as she tried not to freak out.

Anyways, had exam #3 today - physio. seriously consider taking the decompressed 3-year class-old option for awhile today. I am just not smart enough...
 
We just started pelvis anatomy. Oh God the humanity!! :scared:
 
Looking at Netters to try to draw, but it's just one big middle finger.
 
Hey everyone. It's been awhile. 🙂 We start anatomy next week, and we have lab starting the first week. Our tests will be half practical, half written.

And I'm going to have to give a shout out for rads too. As a board member for the radiology group at my school I feel obligated to do so. Besides, interventional radiology is awesome. :banana:
 
I hate Netters. I think there are at least one or two better illustrated atlases out there, but they aren't used because Netters is some sort of untouchable tradition to some teachers
 
Suncrusher said:
I hate Netters. I think there are at least one or two better illustrated atlases out there, but they aren't used because Netters is some sort of untouchable tradition to some teachers
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I think the illustrations are great, but I just wish there wasn't as much labeled. Then again I haven't seen another illustrated atlas so I don't have anything to compare it to.
 
Netter does like to label everything under the sun. I like reviewing my dissector before diving into Netters. The drawings are much simpler to give you a general overview.

Alternatively, the gross anatomy section of netanatomy.com has worked extremely well for me to introduce the material. The cross-sections + images on netanatomy are superb too.
 
NickNaylor said:
I think the illustrations are great, but I just wish there wasn't as much labeled. Then again I haven't seen another illustrated atlas so I don't have anything to compare it to.
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There's a CD version of Netter's where you can remove all the labels and pointOr to the thing you want to get just it's label. It also let's you search for things and highlights your searched term on the plate, making it easier to focus.
 
paul411 said:
There's a CD version of Netter's where you can remove all the labels and pointOr to the thing you want to get just it's label. It also let's you search for things and highlights your searched term on the plate, making it easier to focus.
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Is that thing updated? The last time I looked at that, it looked like it was made in the 90s. Very awkward user-interface.
 
Isoprop said:
Is that thing updated? The last time I looked at that, it looked like it was made in the 90s. Very awkward user-interface.
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I guess it's not updated (I'm using Version 3) but I've learned to ignore 90% of the UI and just use the 3-4 features I need. I find it better than flipping through the physical copy.
 
I just like Thieme way better. Netters seems so cartoonish and lacking in realistic details in comparison. It's a smaller jump from Thieme's illustrated atlas to a photographic atlas/actual cadaver than from Netters to a photographic atlas or cadaver. And I don't know about the atlases themselves, but the Thieme flashcards tend to show the same cuts of the body several times from different angles with a few things labeled each time instead of one cut one time with everything labeled at once in a confusing jumble of lines. But anyway. Anatomy practical is over; second block has already started without a break...

...i really need a break...
 
Avoidthetiger said:
Today I was dissecting a scrotum, and a little bit from the testis area flew off my scapula and onto my lab partner's lip. Most hilarious moment ever. Everyone in the anatomy lab probably though I was crazy as I couldn't stop laughing, as she tried not to freak out.

Anyways, had exam #3 today - physio. seriously consider taking the decompressed 3-year class-old option for awhile today. I am just not smart enough...
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you dissect with your shoulder blade? :meanie:

also, netters does suck.
 
I <3 my Netters for conceptual understanding. (And, incidentally, I hate cadavers.)

So, am I really supposed to memorize all 100 different Vitamin B's and their deficiencies? 🙁

Why is Biochemistry fewer credits but twice as hard as Anatomy?
 
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