lizt said:Hello,
I am currently volunteering at a rehabilitation center. I help with recreation activities and visit with people in their rooms. Does this count as clinical experience? I didn't think it did due to the nature of what I do there, but I wasn't sure.
Thanks
LizzyM said:If you are close enough to "smell patients" it is a clinical experience.
lizt said:so does this count as a clinical experience?
i mean, i am wheeling around patients in wheelchairs and am in their rooms, but i'm not there when they are being treated
whateva07 said:I interned at NIH for a significant period of time during my senior year of high school, and during my time there I was a co-author of a manuscript (unpublished journal). I wanted to know if my research experience at NIH is something that I could put on my application for medical schools.
LizzyM said:What you did in college is usually not included on the AMCAS (exceptions might be really big awards like Intel Science Prize). Papers that are never published don't count for beans. What have you done lately? That's what the adcom wants to know.
whateva07 said:You mean high school right?
whateva07 said:I interned at NIH for a significant period of time during my senior year of high school, and during my time there I was a co-author of a manuscript (unpublished journal). I wanted to know if my research experience at NIH is something that I could put on my application for medical schools.
zach1201 said:The fact that you've done the research should show some sort of dedication. What if he/she moved away from their laboratory and couldn't continue the research?
Put it another way, do you think it looks better or worse that he/she doesn't put down any research experience or they put down that they worked at a prestigous institute and obtained many basic science experiences. To say that anything you did before college is meaningless defeats the purpose of what has contributed to your decision of becoming a doctor.
Don't get me wrong, if you did scut work such as cleaning dishes, etc... then it's not worthwhile. If you put it in 40 hrs/week, it's another story.
LizzyM said:why include it among the ECs as it is irrelevant?
zach1201 said:That's where I think you and I disagree. The primary is a chance for you to show to medical schools what you have done to determine or "prove" that you want to become a doctor. If you're unable to show this, for the most part, you won't advance to the next step (i.e. secondaries, interviews). Without actually presenting the fact that you did research, how will the people that are evaluating you for this process ever know that you have done research?
I feel that something as significant as research should be included. Especially if you're published for the research.
And you're right, people who want to do research show a track record of research throughout their secondary education.
Working at a prestigous institute such as the NIH is very much worth putting down on your application.
LizzyM said:Make that POST-secondary education. We're interested in work done in college or later.
zach1201 said:I do confess, I'm using my personal experiences to help validate whateva's experiences. I worked in a lab every summer high school - end of first year college. Presented and published for this work during college, worked on 3 major projects, etc...
I do realize that putting a summers worth of experience isn't impressive at all, but working at the NIH has to count for something, right?
The real question is, can putting down research in high school that you were vested in have a negative impact on your application? It may not help it, in your opinion, but will it hurt it?