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true. and none of that happened to the Clintons.Being served or arrested is not being convicted. Innocent until proven guilty. Except in the publics eyes.
true. and none of that happened to the Clintons.Being served or arrested is not being convicted. Innocent until proven guilty. Except in the publics eyes.
Or with Trump - that's my point.true. and none of that happened to the Clintons.
Or with Trump - that's my point.
I just want Democrats to stop clutching their pearls about Trump. Stop saying he's a hard core criminal because, "what if" this or that accusation is true - put a prism on the law and apply the Enochian polarizing template, his crimes are actually "MAJOR".
If we didn't keep bringing liberals back to earth, they would be totally lost in space
there is SO much smoke. no, there has not been a conviction.... yet.... because they dude is the sitting "president"
are you willing to accept what the lifelong public servant/ lifelong republican / war hero Robert Mueller has to say about this? or will you again just make up your own reality?
yeah, theres no way he listened to Snoop and Tupac.
i know you meant to say Boyz to Men and Back Street Boys...
I'm still trying to figure out why Mueller was even appointed, let alone what authority he has over the POTUS. Where is "special counsel" in the constitution, compared to the legit branches of government?there is SO much smoke. no, there has not been a conviction.... yet.... because they dude is the sitting "president"
are you willing to accept what the lifelong public servant/ lifelong republican / war hero Robert Mueller has to say about this? or will you again just make up your own reality?
I guess my question to you is, when are you going to accept the reality that Donald Trump won the election? He will be president until at least 2020, and quite possibly 2024, when the next elections take place.are you willing to accept what the lifelong public servant/ lifelong republican / war hero Robert Mueller has to say about this? or will you again just make up your own reality?
and you expect that a republican dominated committee whose chair is a big trump supporter is going to find evidence?weird....NBC link below says the senate says Trump never colluded with Russia either....what will Maddow talk about tonight? i think ill watch her just so i can see her depressed look .....just like on election night.
Senate: No direct proof of conspiracy between Trump campaign, Russia
I guess my question to you is, when are you going to accept the reality that Donald Trump won the election? He will be president until at least 2020, and quite possibly 2024, when the next elections take place.
The reality is that no matter how much smoke you think you see, no matter how many "special" people are hired or crying news pundits commenting, you can't get rid of our president until his term expires.
i dont believe that he was elected legitimately. therefore, i dont believe that anything he does, says, whomever he appoints, whatever treaty or agreement he takes us out of has any merit. i accept that he is currently nominally the president. however, i will not accept his fleecing of our country and our democracy.
lets assume, hypothetically, that there is a smoking gun. that trump gave russia some info that they used to alter the election (changed voter rolls in michigan, whatever). lets just assume that it happened. if thats the case, what would be your reaction. would you care? would you want to void the result? what about the supreme court judges? do they get to stay?
the mueller investigation is like watergate on steroids. watergate tore our country apart. 69 indictments, 48 found guilty. this will be a defining moment for our country.
btw, i dont think trump is going anywhere until 2020. however, jan 21st 2020, my hones best guess is that he will be in jail. time will tell. but you just cant break that many laws and walk. if you can, we really dont have a country.
i dont believe that he was elected legitimately. therefore, i dont believe that anything he does, says, whomever he appoints, whatever treaty or agreement he takes us out of has any merit. i accept that he is currently nominally the president. however, i will not accept his fleecing of our country and our democracy.
lets assume, hypothetically, that there is a smoking gun. that trump gave russia some info that they used to alter the election (changed voter rolls in michigan, whatever). lets just assume that it happened. if thats the case, what would be your reaction. would you care? would you want to void the result? what about the supreme court judges? do they get to stay?
the mueller investigation is like watergate on steroids. watergate tore our country apart. 69 indictments, 48 found guilty. this will be a defining moment for our country.
btw, i dont think trump is going anywhere until 2020. however, jan 21st 2020, my hones best guess is that he will be in jail. time will tell. but you just cant break that many laws and walk. if you can, we really dont have a country.
In this hypothetical, assuming also that Trump had a direct hand in aiding Russia in subverting the election, the Supreme Court Justices remain but it would certainly be a case for impeachment, removal from office, and assumption of presidency by Pence.lets assume, hypothetically, that there is a smoking gun. that trump gave russia some info that they used to alter the election (changed voter rolls in michigan, whatever). lets just assume that it happened. if thats the case, what would be your reaction. would you care? would you want to void the result? what about the supreme court judges? do they get to stay?
In this hypothetical, assuming also that Trump had a direct hand in aiding Russia in subverting the election, the Supreme Court Justices remain but it would certainly be a case for impeachment, removal from office, and assumption of presidency by Pence.
But consider how ridiculous this hypothetical is. You're saying Russia has the capability of actually changing voter rolls and altering the election outcome but they don't have the capability to legally get polling data or whatever you think Trump had that they needed?
Are you better off now than under Obama?
Someone is so bent up over this they are exhibiting loss of reality.
unchanged.
financially, there has been no tangible difference.
i hate the direction the country is going, especially in regards to the climate and environment. the divisiveness is abhorrent, the cow towing to russia, leaving the Paris, shunning NATO, stomping all over the CIA and FBI, the tarriffs -- all of these are just insanely stupid.
but other than me being pissed off at the complete ***** in the white house, i am no "worse off" nor "better off" right now
Eh, not really. At various times his approval ratings have been higher than previous presidents.maybe
trump is historically unpopular, so its really not just me. he's going down. just a matter of time
No.Are you better off now than under Obama?
Your WAPO propaganda problem is motive.....The Clinton's were getting $500k for a speech and had a nice relationship with Russia....so why would they leak her and the DNC's damaging emails? Notice how the story is not about the information that was leaked, which was damning in itself.
And who looks at most of this "social media" anyway? Answer: young people. Do young people vote? Not as many who should. Then there is the illegal votes. Or another way to look at it....if not for Chicago, LA, and NYC, the Trump win would have been much bigger.
Your WAPO propaganda problem is motive.....The Clinton's were getting $500k for a speech and had a nice relationship with Russia....so why would they leak her and the DNC's damaging emails? Notice how the story is not about the information that was leaked, which was damning in itself.
And who looks at most of this "social media" anyway? Answer: young people. Do young people vote? Not as many who should. Then there is the illegal votes. Or another way to look at it....if not for Chicago, LA, and NYC, the Trump win would have been much bigger.
Eh, not really. At various times his approval ratings have been higher than previous presidents.
Its also worth noting that his approval rating has stayed pretty steady while most previous presidents change depending on what's going on with the country. That suggests (and I think we can all agree with this) that there are people who wouldn't like Trump if he fixed the environment with a snap of his fingers and came up with a high quality budget neutral single-payer plan and there are also people that would still like Trump if he lead us to nuclear Armageddon next Monday.
How Popular Is Donald Trump?
i dont know why i bother, but can you please post some references for your lies?
here is what you should have posted initially.
"Of the 13 Clinton speeches that fetched $500,000 or more, only two occurred during the years his wife was not secretary of state,"according to the New York Times, which has an advance copy."
? non sequitur?You made my point stronger. The fact that they made 13 speeches only proves that they had an excellent relationship with Russia and she was easily bought and paid for.
Your side has made it abundantly clear that they care more about abortions, illegal immigrants, and uncorroborated women who try to destroy a man’s family without due process.
It’s hard to go any farther left, but I’ll hold your beer
? non sequitur?
as usual, ducttape was spot on: im not a fan of the uber left progressive policies, but that is really not where the democrat party is at. foxnews loves to vilify AOC because its mouthbreathers (AKA doctodd) just lap it. more balance is definitely needed
How is that a false equivalence? There are noted times when presidents have been less popular than Trump. That means he's not historically unpopular by definition.that is a false equivalence. sort of like saying there was blame "on both sides" in charlottesville.
by the numbers, he is historically unpopular.
Chuck Schumer Doesn’t Seem to Know That Donald Trump Is Extraordinarily Unpopular
we waste each other's time because i want you to convince me. But since your side is so blatantly left, because your media is so blatantly anti-Trump 24/7, because your side ignores common sense, i dont see me being convinced. I havent mentioned AOC, but she is an example of democrat voters voting for increased govt control of everything....the extreme left that has embraced Cuba and Venezuela despite the obvious. And your side has embraced her.
Convince me that Trump is anti-USA and pro-globalist....because your side has embraced those things..
That's something I just don't get about you. For the most part, I think you and I have similar feelings about various ideas that get floated around especially in areas that would effect medicine (Medicare-for-all, for example) but you are almost rabidly anti-Trump. Its unusual. I mean I don't like the guy but I'm often stuck defending some of his actions because the other side is just a little crazy at times (for what its worth, I had to do the same with Obama 9 years ago).? non sequitur?
as usual, ducttape was spot on: im not a fan of the uber left progressive policies, but that is really not where the democrat party is at. foxnews loves to vilify AOC because its mouthbreathers (AKA doctodd) just lap it. more balance is definitely needed
How is that a false equivalence? There are noted times when presidents have been less popular than Trump. That means he's not historically unpopular by definition.
Edit: and I think that article misses quite a few things most notably Trump's elections despite trailing in every poll done pretty much the entire election season. For whatever reason, polls are not a good way to measure Trump's popularity. I mean hell, his approval rating was 45% on his 4th day in office.
That's something I just don't get about you. For the most part, I think you and I have similar feelings about various ideas that get floated around especially in areas that would effect medicine (Medicare-for-all, for example) but you are almost rabidly anti-Trump. Its unusual. I mean I don't like the guy but I'm often stuck defending some of his actions because the other side is just a little crazy at times (for what its worth, I had to do the same with Obama 9 years ago).
of course the ratings go up and down, but over the length of his presidency thus far, he is in fact, historically unpopular
Donald Trump's approval rating shows he's a historically unpopular president
trump is pro-whatever puts money in his own personal bank account. i truly dont believe that he has the interests of the united states at heart when he makes his decisions. he only cares about himself, as evidenced by his obvious nacissism. you cant trust that. you cant believe a word that comes out of his mouth. i have a close family member with the same disorder. everything he days or does is solely to make himself look or feel better. thats no way to run a country.
not everyone has embraced the uber-progressive agenda. it is akin to the tea party movement. there are some who are on the far far left. most dont.
im fairly certain that nobody wants the US to turn into venezuela. that is a pretty ridiculous talking point
keep it together....we agree on alot so i can sympathize about his unpopularity, especially since the media foments, celebrities foment, social media foments, and feels just like you because it is in their face 24/7. The media parades all these "smartest guys in the room" saying orange man bad, so the vast majority eventually believe it. That is propaganda. IMAGINE his ratings if the mass media wasnt attacking him 24/7?!
He is a bombastic dingus. But the alternative was pretty clearly corrupt. We wanted a shake up and we got it. I dont like he signed the most recent budget because spending is out of control. But the economy is roaring and i dont think it would be like this with more govt regulation with democrat control.
I just came from a trip to Colorado....the airports were packed, all flights sold out, business saying they are the busiest they have been.
Common sense tells me we are doing fine, despite what the world economy is looking like, and despite what your so called experts are saying.
is it ridiculous? You dont remember the liberal media and Bernie Sanders applauding Venezuela and Cuba's policies?
Ive seen Trump's wealth DECREASE, not increase. Of course he wants to be successful....show me someone who wants to fail?
because of ratings.....division makes money. A start would be for your side to stop calling everyone who doesnt agree with them racist or sexist.
He may not be that unpopular statistically but his enemies are zombies. They can't be reasoned with or cured.Eh, not really. At various times his approval ratings have been higher than previous presidents.
Its also worth noting that his approval rating has stayed pretty steady while most previous presidents change depending on what's going on with the country. That suggests (and I think we can all agree with this) that there are people who wouldn't like Trump if he fixed the environment with a snap of his fingers and came up with a high quality budget neutral single-payer plan and there are also people that would still like Trump if he lead us to nuclear Armageddon next Monday.
How Popular Is Donald Trump?