Well I want it because I asked a bunch of rads residents about it and they unanimously said nothing in PGY1 can prep you for R1 at all, so avoid a hardcore prelim.
I’ve only had one like that and I’ll be ranking it pretty high. Sadly, most of these have either been about wasting the year being too chill or just being a scut monkey. Finding a one year training program that has reasonable expectations and educational goals for an advanced applicant is rare in my experience.
All very important questions. I would also ask if the program offers time at the end to move.
From the knowledge standpoint, there is no advantage from attending one type of prelim over another. From a dexterity and procedural standpoint, it's a different story. I am planning to TY rank programs where inpatient months are considered "cushy" (i.e. 5-7 pt max, long call until 7pm, helpful seniors) and take procedural heavy rotations as my electives (vascular surgery, IR, PM&R, EM). Community TY programs with no fellows and fewer residents from other specialities tend to fall in this category.
This is so true for TYs. I don't know why TYs have to do a year of internship before going off to your real training. I think 3-6 months is plenty of time for you all. You don't need a year to practice re-ordering PRN Tylenol, especially if you're never going to do that again.
I’m still a little old fashion and would not mind a hand written letter with a gold coin
The spreadsheets are getting trolled pretty hard this year. Idk if this is a new thing but i would take any "tier" on it w/ a grain of salt.
Writing notes and “dancing like a monkey” isn’t anyone’s definition of learning. There are great TYs that actually value rads people and give them fantastic procedural experience and radiology electives. I simply have no idea why people would rather do virtually nothing for a year. Seems like it would make the time go a lot slower, and it for sure won’t make you a better doctor.
I don't think anyone is advocating to do "virtually nothing" all year. The point is that there is no use in working beyond extremely hard during intern year in a field you're not going to practice in. Working your tail off as an intern doing scutwork is not going to make you a better ROAD physician. As someone who depends on their consultants for accurate diagnoses, especially when it comes to imaging, I'd rather these docs spend more time in their chosen specialty.
You say do nothing but I hear "go home and do something enjoyable if I want to" when I see these chill places. I'll make the claim that no one has ever denied a TY at a cush program from staying late on rotations they feel useful lol. I would rather have the choice than no choice and just mostly sitting on various medicine services. I'm not worried about being a better radiologist from intern year. I have found only a few IR docs (that are crusading to make IR super clinical) say intern year is useful and not a single other person in real life. We can agree to disagree. It takes all kinds and I hope you enjoy your intern year.
Agree. Logistically it makes no sense from an administrative standpoint or from an applicant's perspective. That extra month would be pretty nice to get our ducks in a row.
So the question becomes if mega chill intern year versus "normal" intern year makes a difference or if just doing any intern year at all is what helps?
I don't think you will find a lot of people arguing against that as an absolute statement but maybe the relative impact. All physicians greatly benefit from a well-rounded training. It's why we don't make as many dumb**** consults and can tell our patients what's going to happen to them as they progress through the system. I just don't think doing 3-4 extra 72 hour/week rotations mostly about capturing billing gives us anything extra in our advanced positions.
It is an interesting observation that so many of the SDN regulars are rads studs
When I say do nothing, I mean the TYs that have zero expectations that you get involved in clinical care and learn to be a doctor. That does not equal going home early lol. More often it means sitting in a corner.
We agree more than we disagree then. For the record, I'll be ranking a malignant prelim #2 for family reasons even though the rest of my list is composed of great TYs and prelims. Good luck.
Just trying to follow in your footsteps. Hope intern year is alright.
It feels like that to me too this year. Maybe bc I’m just paying more attention this year for obvious reasons. Pretty sure number of applicants/applications are about the same as they have been in previous years.
I'll live, and fwiw absolutely do not listen to anyone who says an extra 10 hours of scutwork a week will make you a better anything down the road
Hell if I know
As far as vision for the future goes, I'm excited about ETH 2.0 and EIP-1559!
You can pretend like you did not know that and send one as well as you wish...your chance of giving them reasons why you want to come there and what you bring to the table...your mentor version is probably not the same.
I guess. I'll wait till their last day of interviews and then send that email!
Are you me (but 14 instead of 17)?
I struggled a lot with the middle of my list. A LOT. And my last interview changed things a bit more since i ranked it higher than I thought i would.
I literally just flipped 12 and 13. And now I'm trying to see how that feels lol.
Yeah I'll have my vaccine by then though my fiance likely won't. that said we're talking about doing an out west trip which would be nice and socially distanced, I'm really not trying to hike rather, I'd much prefer drinking pool/beach side lol. Lazy I know. Florida is another option, likely safer too. But I'm thinking about a mexico resort and to me the biggest risk is the travel part, but once you're there it can be pretty socially distanced I feel like. If you can make sure to get direct flights, no lay overs and sitting around an airport, that's not that bad. Especially by May. unless these variants completely f us
Hopefully we really do give out 100 m vaccine doses in these next 100 days and we all are vaccinated and live happily ever after
The Biden plan is fantastic, except for the part where the goal numbers were already being met under Trump. He just slapped his name on it and he’ll get all of the credit. Biden would actually have to SLOW the pace of vaccination to reach his target.
love to see it
Dude nooooo! Not a cruise during a pandemic. Floating petri dishes.
I’ll admit to enjoying a cruise pre-pandemic. I don’t know if/when I’d be able to go back. Way too close quarters for comfort these days. Even with a vaccine.
