- Apr 28, 2010
This is what is the most curious to me. As I've mentioned here in the past, I'm taking a good chunk of my undergraduate work at a community college, to transfer to a business school for my bachelors, then finally a state school for my pre-reqs.. My friend continues to tell me "just wait until you get to real college, its so much harder." This led to a decent discussion where I was finally able to pin down that the material was pretty much identical, it rwally came down to smaller class sizes, lack of TA led courses, and a more condusive learning environment. Certainly this is not the case with every cc, but it would be nice if cc got a little more street cred...I can't speak for the CSUs as I have no taken a class at any, but their is a huge disparity between UC and CC. I've found CC science courses to be way easier than UC science courses; however, I will say that my CC professor did an excellent job at teaching the material so while it was easier to get an A, I don't feel like I learned less because of it. I'm currently in a UC Physics class (albeit through extension) where I am doing well and learning nothing (though, I've taken multiple and this is the first class where I feel this). I'm opting to take Physics II with a different professor and hoping for the best.
Did you go to SMC?Went to a California CC then CSU... both are about the same in terms of difficulty, but i think the CSU honestly had a lower curve. The CC i went too was a very competitive one though with lots of people linking to UC berk or la afterwards.
As a graduate of california csu's i have to say that many students there have a lower rate of accept. to medical schools - many end up having to take the DO route (nothing against osteo but just from my experience). I think it has to do with the student population that ends up at the CSU and not at the teaching. more driven people at the UCs
At my school there are tons of ivy kids, strong private and public schools including 12 UC (mostly berk and LA) and im the only CSU guy here...
At all my interviews last season I always got a blank stare when i mentioned where i went to undergrad.
I think that is interesting, because it seems that the first few chapters of O-chem, at least in my text, are naming alkanes, comparing stabilities etc. Easier stuff. It seems like the first test is always high. In my O-Chem class the average score on the first test was and 82; it dropped to a 65 on the next test.I've weighed in on the university/cc debate a few times, and while I can't speak for the California system, there is something to be said for how your experience is affected by the kinds of students in your classes, how the classes are graded (curve or no) and the individual professor's lecture style, exam difficulty and grading.
My OChem class has no dummies in it. There are a couple slackers, people who just want a B for whatever reason and don't care to fight for an A. But even the slackers always come to class. Our professor started making his exams harder after the first exam grades came back because no one got lower than a B; last year the average on the same test was a 72. Almost everyone in the class intends to major in chemistry or biochemistry. I'm the exception.