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  1. mdcool

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    I would like to ask you another question about COMP.
    Many SNDers did not like about COMP campus and its location.
    I am not sure how bad it is.
    I have been to several schools like CCOM, VCOM, and so on.
    Could anyone can give me some info about COMP's location and campus.
    I would love to have your input.
    Thank You very much...
     
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  3. Doctor Bagel

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    the campus is just sort of weird. it used to be a shopping mall or something like that, so the buildings don't look very academic. frankly, the exterior is pretty ugly, but the interior is nice. they're redone everything, and i think the facilities are good. the neighborhood is not the best, but i don't think it's as bad as some people would have you believe. to me, the biggest drawback was just that it was in sprawlville southern california, not that it was specifically in pomona.
     
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    Hi, after reading SDN comments about the campus, I too was discouraged about how/where the campus is. I interviewed there in October, and it really is not that bad. Yeah, the outside is not extremely great, definitely has a Western (unique) look:) The inside is definitely very nice. Also, downtown Pomona may not be so safe, but I heard the campus is very safe. Also, there is a lot of culture, entertainment, and stuff down there...all close by. I heard there are some really nice areas, esp. in neighboring towns. The diversity is just great, and I suggest going to the school and checking it out. The most important thing is how you feel about the school. I had a positive experience
    there:)
     
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    We are in the middle of downtown Pomona. It is not a nice area but the inside of the school is indeed very nice. As far as safety, we have a lot of cars getting broken into or stolen and occasional confrontations (this has increased during the holiday season). We have security til midnight that will escort you to your car (if it's still there). Just things you should know before choosing.
     
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    Yeah I don't like the campus either and it's a big drawback, but I can tolerate it when I think of the pros and cons of Western. I'm surprised that my classmates don't seem to care much and are really down-to-earth about it. It seems that the majority of the class is involved in the local community though, in local free clinics, giving montoring talks/physicals at local schools, or outreach by handing out flyers and talking to homeless folks and providing them services and food at shelters. But I guess there was self-selection and the campus itself served as a weeding out process. Someone that can't stand the campus and the neighborhood will not even be here in the first place. See it for yourself and decide the pros and cons. It's not a fit for everyone.
     
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  8. mdcool

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    Thank You for your time and putting your input into this thread.
    I really appreciate it.
    It seems.... inside of COMP campus is much better than outside.
    And, neighbors are not that bad.....

    However, could you please give me little more details about the Pros and Cons of COMP.
    Thank You for your help...again :)
     
  9. Thousandth

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    I'll give you my reasons why not. Understand that I am from San Diego and ended up moving to IOWA ( a place I really dont like, it's -3 degrees right now!) because of these. Also I was accepted to COMP and visited the campus twice, since I was local.

    The location thing has been discussed. I thought it was a huge drawback. Both of my visits on campus left me with a bad feeling. I spoke to several students and most did not seem to enthusiastic to be there. In fact there was a general malaise about the whole place. I spoke to a 2nd year during my interview and aske dwhat the best part about the school is, he replied that, "it's almost time for me to go on rotations". To him getting out of there was the best thing.

    I spoke to 2 graduates as well. Both of them told me that if I got in ANYWHERE else that I should go there over COMP, to use COMP as a last choice only.

    At the time I did some research and the school was being investigated by the state attorney generals office for some finacial dealings. The dean of the school had been fired (cant remeber now the source) but it was because he had informed on the school to the AG's office (again this was hearsay).

    I interviewed at DMU 7 days after COMP. It was cold and dreary and in Iowa. The big difference was the students. I meet probably 30 and every one of them was VERY happy about there choice. The atmosphere was relaxed and comfortable. This was the exact opposite of COMP. I say this only for comparision.

    I left family, friends, good wheather, and a place that I loved (San Diego) to move to a place where I knew no one and had no intention of staying lovnger than the 2 years I needed to. Iowa on the whole sucks. I am counting the months till I am gone. But everything being the same I would make the same choice.

    I am just being bluntly honest about how I felt about COMP. There probably are people who love it and I am glad for them. I just found that there was a real lack of clear viewpoints on here when I was looking.

    Hope this helps.
     
  10. melancholy

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    Thousandth-
    I'm glad you went with your gut instinct and are happy at where you currently are right now. One of the hardest things to do on med school interviews is trying to get enough information and "feel" about the school to make an educated decision on which one to attend.

    I went through the process awhile ago and like you, had heard bad things about the school at the time. (Different issues back then) However, the more students I talked to, both at Western and at other schools, I gained a greater perspective on how medical schools are in general. Every school has problems and every school has students who positively enjoy being there and others who can't wait to go on rotations and leave sight of the school.

    Since whatever students you chat with during the interview day can be a total crapshoot, I always suggest that people take information with a grain of salt and try to get as many opinions as possible.

    I think when you interviewed, there had been a lot of negative publicity regarding the school which had filtered around on the internet in general. However, I think our first and second year students on campus are actually doing pretty well and the new curriculum and schedule seems to be favorable with numerous students.

    As far as the campus is concerned, Pomona is relatively benign compared to a number of other medical school campuses. Granted, there are occasional break-ins into cars and that sort of thing, there are a lot of positive things about Pomona including the community which we get to become involved in as well as a lot of great local food in the area to enjoy. The surrounding cities within 5 minutes away offer some great places for students to live as well and they will have that new student complex across the street from school up sooner or later.
     
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    Thousandth - I got the same responses from students and one of my mentors about choosing COMP last but I am very glad I didn't. I am enjoying my time here much more than I thought I would. I don't know if it's due to the new curriculum, the new dean or just my personality. But overall, the experience so far has been great.
     
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    May I ask someone..about the new curriculum and the new dean at COMP?
    Once again...thank you for your input. :thumbup:
     
  13. Jinyaoysiu

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    Wow it sounds like you made some sacrifices and COMP must have rubbed you the wrong way. It sounds like you really valued the opinions of the few students/graduates that you talked to and the "malaise" that you felt, but let me assure you that the atmosphere in my class is also very relaxed and people are having a good time. As you can see on SDN, there are plenty of COMP students that enjoy their experiences here. I wish your feelings served you right and you will be better off in the future as a physcian that will worth your sacrifices by choosing to go to DMU

    Obviously the campus also turned you off enough. Like I said, it's a self-selection process and maybe it's better this way.
     
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    If you're in California, try to attend COMP's Osteopathic Medicine Awareness Conference (it's held throughout the yr). I didn't go to it before I interviewed. I wish I had, though, because people told me they learned a LOT about the school and osteopathic med at the OMA Conf. As far as what I learned on my interview day, the curriculum is revised, and the current first yr students are on that system. I think it's a very good one, and it's one of my factors for choosing COMP....it's sort of like a block curr. in which you focus on 1-2 major subjects at one time, instead of taking everything (human anatomy, biochem, etc) all at the same time. Instead you'll take anatomy first, and then biochem. This means that you'll spend less weeks on each subject, but way more hrs on that subject b/c you'll be focused on it. This helps in trying to focus and learn the material well. I suggest you call COMP and ask questions...they're cool abt that. I don't know much about the new Dean, but I've heard that students are apparently very happy with him. He's trying to improve the school in many ways, and my student hosts liked him. Also, you have OMM and ECM (which is exposure to patient care) integrated in to the curriculum all throughout the first two yrs. PM me if you want the email addresses of specific students to talk to. Good luck!
     
  15. mdcool

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    Thank You very much....Unfortunately, I am from MD, Maryland (see my ID...MDcool ^^). I think I have to wait until the interview date to finalize my decision. However....I wish I can have more info about COMP. If you don't mind, I'll PM you. :)
     
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    Thanks for the understanding. Like I said I am just offering my opinion not trying to slam the school.

    I think I did make the best choice in coming to DMU. Of course I still wish it wasn't in Iowa it's FRICKIN ZERO DEGREES out right now! :D
     
  17. Vince

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    A few things from a recent COMP graduate...

    1. I too was a little taken aback by the exterior of the campus. But, I actually grew to like it while I was at COMP, and it SHOULD HAVE NO BEARING IN YOUR DECISION TO ATTEND COMP. Because it doesn't matter at all. Inside IS nice.

    2. To the person from Maryland - My former classmate and roommate was from MD as well, and he enjoyed his time at COMP/Southern CA. He went back to the Northeast for residency.

    3. If you are from San Diego or wherever in California, sometimes going to school in the area makes it easier to get CA/SoCal residency spots...some program directors are very regionally biased.

    4. I am from Texas and actually had to decide between DMU and COMP and I am glad I chose COMP....because I would've been cold and miserable in Iowa.

    5. My new roommate is a first year and talking with him, it really seems as though they've improved the first two years by the new curriculum change. I think they are headed in the right direction (although arguably not completely there yet).

    6. I was really disappointed by the appointment of a faculty member to being in charge of rotations a year or two ago....and actually probably told some people interested in COMP to shy away because rotations and flexibility on rotations I think is HUGE! FORTUNATELY, I hear that that person is now gone and a new faculty member took over and I think she'll be better in that role....time will tell.

    7. Is COMP the best D.O. school?.....Probably Not....Probably NO WAY....but I disagree with whoever says to go anywhere else but COMP, because I have seen DO students from other programs in action now that I'm in residency and I thought the COMP students rotating through were as a whole better than some other DO programs...maybe I'm biased, but other residents who aren't DO's at my program have agreed with me.

    8. I complained just as much as the next person about COMP when I was there, but in hindsight it probably isn't as bad as I thought while I was there, because I did get a good overall medical education and was successful in applying to residency. Many of my classmates got into good residencies.

    9. To everyone. YOU as an individual are more likely to dictate how successful you'll be in med school, and in the end will be more important than where you went to medical school. Go where you'll be happy for those years.
     
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    Thank You for your thoughtful input. I appreciate it. :)
     
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    I am kind of dismayed at the continued discussion about the appearance of the comp campus. I agree the appearance of the campus is a factor when choosing where to go, however off of the top of my head there are about 38 more important factors. While the outside of COMP and the surrounding neighborhoods may not be very nice, the inside is great, and isn't that alot more important. I spend about %1.3 percentof my time outside. The rest of the time I am in the state of the art anatomy lab or modern lecture hall or omm lab or 22 room clinical skills lab where every room is outfitted like an exam room. I am also looking forward to rotating at several major medical centers in Southern California... This is from the COMP website

    COMP has numerous clinical rotation sites (medical centers,
    hospitals, clinics, and practices) throughout the Inland Empire and
    Southern California that are training sites for COMP students in their
    third and fourth years of medical school. Sites include Arrowhead
    Regional Medical Center and Riverside County Medical Center.
    COMP sponsors 20 residency programs for a total of 246 positions
    in California in disciplines ranging from family medicine to
    neurosurgery.

    Compare this to what a recent DMU graduate had to say about his clinical experience...
    the bottom line is DMU's weakness is that it does not have its own med center, few affil. residences.

    I guess I am just a bit dismayed that the appearance of the outside of the school is such an important factor, and I am not trying to pick on the original poster because that is a common theme I hear from a lot of people.
     
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    60 something degrees here in California. Much better than 17 degrees with wind chill on the east coast the last few days.. heh.
     
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    The new curriculum has completely changed the COMP experience that previous classes endured. Courses have been "blocked" so that you have a set of classes for 3 to 9 weeks rather than having all 8 or 9 classes run the entire semester. Dean Adams is incredibly open to student imput, is pushing for more research opportunities, and has set up faculty/student committees to review each "block" to find ways to continue to improve the system. The blocking cuts down on redundant lectures so that more information is given in fewer lecture hours.

    "Mock" patients are brought in starting the beginning of the first semester so that students will be experts at the H&P by the time they hit rotations - working on clinical skills every week rather than only diadactics. OMM is 3 hours a week, with an integrated "lecture" and lab so that you can put new info into practice immediately. The 2 year schedule has been arranged to be out by the end of April for MSII's, allowing more prep time for Step 1.

    These are just some of the changes I could think of right off. Our MSII friends are jealous of our schedule and the MSIII's are incredulous that so much has changed since they did their diadactics... it's a much more "student friendly" set-up.

    Other comments, if you'd like my opinion:

    Being from the PNW myself, I can understand the issues surrounding the campus' lack of beauty. It's true - strip malls have nothing to get excited about. I didn't think the place was for me when I arrived on this less-than-beautiful campus (you won't have much time to sit and admire landscaping, anyway) yet I'm very glad I made this choice.

    COMP very much has a "family" feel - with all the pros & cons that go into spending so much time with 200 people. It isn't perfect but it is a great match for many personalities... COMP takes students' concerns seriously, there are TONS of outreach & community service opportunities in the school's "backyard" and there's a great mix of people from many locales... There is just so much to get involved in. I encourage anyone who's considering COMP to come out and take a tour - but be sure to hang around and seek out the MSI's and MSII's to just chat. I'm sure you'll find people more than willing to share their pros/cons list with you.
     
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