confused by the admissions process????

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Is anyone out there as confused as I am about the admissions process? This is my second year of applying and I guess I will never truly know what admissions people look for in an applicant. I mean, schools who gave me interviews last year rejected me right away this year and schools who didn't even send me secondaries last year have invited me to interview. Also I even have friends that have stats better than mine, not getting interviews where I am and friends with stats worse than mine making it further than me. I am soooo confused!
 
my friend's older sister actually works with the admissions committee at a large state school in my area, and when i asked her about it she answered: (cut and paste from an old e-mail)


"Well, to answer your question, there isn't one answer. The committee uses the AMCAS to sort through your scores and grades - but even at this first stage those are crucial. Obviously, if you just bombed everything they'll pull you, but anything above a B average and the national MCAT average will keep you in the running. (I can't give you exact numbers on those because there isn't really a guide in determining. Believe it or not, most members just scan over everything and make an educated guess/decision of your aptitude.) But they love to pour over the AMCAS personal statement, once the scores are looked over. This is your voice, and perhaps most important to them. There is actually kind of a joke about essays that we receive that go on like: "I wasn't sure if I wanted to be a doctor, but after I volunteered my valuable time at a burn clinic and saw the poor children with my eyes, I knew immediately what I was supposed to do in life," and so on. Sure, that's a noble thing to volunteer and witness, but focusing on it with that degree of egocentrism is quite humiliating to read. That might sound cynical to you (and especially to somebody who really WAS changed by volunteering at a burn clinic, haha), but I think you know what I mean. Be humble, but passionate, and most of all - interesting and even perhaps entertaining.

Extracirricular activities and work experience only prove your reasons for applying, and are thus probably more important than GPA beyond a certain point. Again, most committee members scan over these papers, and the more interesting and well-rounded you appear, the better. Don't clutter things up with irrelevant volunteering ("I served food to homeless."). Yadda, yadda, yadda.

If you appear like a rounded, happy, good-natured applicant, the secondaries go out, and from there the additional personal statements carry even MORE weight. Even letters of recommendation are used SOLELY for the judge of your character.

Before I worked here, somebody once compared the process like a dating game. Sure, it helps to look good and be presented nicely, but from that point - its all about what you say, what you think, and how you put a smile on people. I'd say that's my best advice. And if you get an interview here, don't prepare answers - just look in the mirror and be yourself.

Good luck."



her advice really helped me, hope it helps others. (and i hope she doesn't mind me posting it! hehe)
 
thanks for the great advice! i think people underestimate the value of the PS and other essays. i would like to know why volunteering to serve food to homeless people would be "irrelavent" ? I think it shows compassion and caring.
 
Yeah, but many pre-meds do those things; the altruistic things. It is the true essence of whom you are that can make an adcom want to meet you in person, hence secondaries then interviews if they really like what they see. I think that people sometimes forget that most of us applying have volunteered substantially, have some research, have good grades, have a decent MCAT (I hope me too!), hence there has to be something about *you* that is truly interesting and different that makes an adcom take a second look. I think that everyone has a special something but maybe sometimes, we forget how to show that via what we write and how we present ourselves to others.
 
BobbyDylanFan,

when odelay posted "Don't clutter things up with irrelevant volunteering ("I served food to homeless."). Yadda, yadda, yadda." I think (s)he means to convey that it is important not to use potentially insignificant events as your motivation for pursuing medicine. From an adcoms point of view, serving food to the homeless can be a very relevent experience, if you do it on a regular or consistant basis. But I don't think is it possible to say "when I volunteered that one time at the homeless shelter I knew medicine was for me.. I demostrated my ability to care for the human condition.. even though I haven't gone back since.."

Personally, I think it is supremely important that you do things because you know it is the right thing to do, not because you think it will put you in a good light when viewed by adcoms. If it so happens that all the things you enjoy partcipating in demonstrate you potential as an awesome physician, more power to you.

But then again, I havent been accepted to medical school yet..

Brian Enriquez
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honestly, i think its a pretty bizarre process, especially if you're aiming for the top schools. no one will tell you that there is a recipe for success as it seems that for every example, there are a number of counter examples. as a successful reapplicant, here are a few things i think are crucial:
1) apply to a broad range of schools and a large number (at least 15)
2) APPLY EARLY
I really thing that made all the difference for me this year.
And the apply early rule still applies to those schools which arent rolling...
 
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