Could you name general surgery and pediatric surgery text books that surgery residents must study?

[ali3600]

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[SociableJimmy]

Sabiston, Greenfield, Cameron, and Schwartz are the go-tos for GS.

 

[thedrjojo]

I made a long post with some links a few years back, but not sure where it is...

So, depends on what you are studying for? There's every day wards, there's general fund of knowledge, there's absite/written boards, and there's oral boards.

Everyday wards, there's a few good reference books, that aren't necessarily but can be useful especially if your residency doesn't provide an intern survival guide type thing

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/03...65&keywords=mont+reid+surgical+handbook&psc=1

I thought it was OK, but some people I know really liked this one. Gives you more ward/intern level management stuff

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/14..._24?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GQSM8CK8CQCFE8508S2V
I know the medicine version is the bomb, but don't know if the surgical version is worth it

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/09...f_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GHAYDMFTZ176ZYHPQKZC

Holy ****, I wish I still had mine of this, since it's going for 2k? This little book if you can find it was great, I kept it in my breast pocket and it was a good go to reference. Chamberlin was a douche bag (I luckily never worked with him, but it was a med student rotation for us).

For every day reading, you should pick a textbook you like and use that. Or utilize the chapters associated with the score curriculum for the topic you are reviewing. Score (which almost all residencies use) contains several books/chapters. I personally liked Greenfield, but any of the main ones should do
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/03...of+surgery&dpPl=1&dpID=51pf9T5g5wL&ref=plSrch
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/03...=KE5W8WD0FNY9BVAZJD77&dpPl=1&dpID=51emVS67ZWL
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/00...f_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SYWRBDD3G9V20JR5JATV
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/14...f_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HC5XW71Z14AV7P4HKHKB
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1469897180/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

To go with these, you definitely need a good atlas
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/00...=QTYPPN815G3KDEQ31A0G&dpPl=1&dpID=51j435TmrtL

Zollingers is definitely the go to.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/14...f_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=71MW7QCKZ82BQ0QTJJ1S

I got the transplant version of this one and really enjoyed it, and may get the general surgery version.

In addition, there's two books that fall into this category that are 'must haves'

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/33...f_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=YJD4WMVE2GXS2DVTQXSE
You will have to dictate, but no one really teaches you how. This book has great templates. I also tended to read it before a case to mentally go over the steps in my brain. Super valuable book

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The definitive icu book. Just get it. Will be vital to surviving your sicu time

Absite/written boards
If you only get one thing to prep for the absite, get this book :

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/14...g_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3HRQS9HJ9CNDG326879Q
It's great, concise, and will help out greatly. Gone are the days that memorizing this alone could get you >90th percentile, but it's still worth the money

Beyond that, do questions. The score questions were my best (and free) source, but there are some online Qbanks and some books.

I wasn't a fan but people seem to love
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/03...io+surgery&dpPl=1&dpID=51Wbb65SYQL&ref=plSrch

Just do lots of questions. I would try to do at least 50q/day in the 2-3 months leading up to the test.

For oral boards, there's plenty of threads out there, but a book I used for oral boards that I wish I used during residency would be
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1496349075/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile
Which is great for text book supplement / just putting it in a different context

 

[Smurfette]

Sabiston, Greenfield, Cameron, and Schwartz are the go-tos for GS.

True. However, each program may have an education curriculum using a certain book. You don't need all of them. For med4's/rising interns, I'd say wait and see what your program uses and get that one. My program gave us a book for free, so I was glad I didn't spend money ahead of time. Other books you will pick up along the way as you get recommendations from others or feel like there's certain areas where you have an interest or big knowledge gap and need to supplement.

I need to see if my little intern pocketbook is in that box of old surgery books I have....can't believe that's listed on amazon for $2K. Whoa.

 

[Jolie South]

Cameron’s by far is the best comprehensive general surgery text. It is concise and has a lot of practical information about work ups and operations.

Something I wish I had known earlier in residency was to use NCCN guidelines for anything cancer related. They are well accepted and are constantly updated. There is an app you can download for your phone also.

Dimick’s clinical scenarios in surgery is a book I used for oral boards but actually wish I had read in residency. Very realistic ways to approach a lot of problems.

I bought Sabiston my intern year. Never really read it bc I found it too wordy without much practical information. Lots of in “days of yore, so and so found this weird anatomical anomaly that now bears his name.”

Greenfield’s and Schwartz are ok. I liked the Schwartz question book for ABSITE prep.

 

[Winged Scapula]

I STILL HAVE MY CHAMBERLINS!!!

True. However, each program may have an education curriculum using a certain book. You don't need all of them. For med4's/rising interns, I'd say wait and see what your program uses and get that one. My program gave us a book for free, so I was glad I didn't spend money ahead of time. Other books you will pick up along the way as you get recommendations from others or feel like there's certain areas where you have an interest or big knowledge gap and need to supplement.

I need to see if my little intern pocketbook is in that box of old surgery books I have....can't believe that's listed on amazon for $2K. Whoa

 

[ThoracicGuy]

I STILL HAVE MY CHAMBERLINS!!!

Can you send it to one of us to sell for $2k?

 

[vselin]

Ashcrafts and Coran are two different textbooks for peds surgery

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[Apollyon]

Oh damn! That's nearly $550 for just two textbooks!

 

[vselin]

Yes ,unfortunately they're very expensive ,but i think , one of them is enough to study.

 

[Apollyon]

Oh, that's that variable pricing that Amazon does. That second one was the one over $300.

 

[vselin]

I agree with you ,even so i am not sure how we can find other options when we have to buy one, i am using my clinic's book so i didn't need to buy for now.In the future i will have to