Which medicine programs out there have a good reputation but are not as demanding or malignant? How is Wash U? Vandy? Cornell? Others?
I heard Vandy had q2 Unit call (but only did the Unit in 2 week blocks). This could be total crap. Wash U & Cornell were two places I interviewed where things seemed fairly cush. U Chicago is another (the problem there is that there are only 20 people in each class, so if someone drops out or gets sick there are fewer people to spread the pain to ) UCLA is another cush good name program. So is Stanford. Never applied to U Wash, so I'm not sure.
The Brigham is another. Good training, I like the housestaff I met there. Known as a "gentleman's program" -- a kinder, gentler place so to speak.
...I am not sure I would call UCLA "cush-" I have firsthand experience with its intern year, and it can be a bear at times- just wondering where you heard that it was "cush?"
Yea, I'm hearing from a fellow that when you come out of there "prepared to take on anything". Hit hard especially during the 1st year....
From what I understand, Vandy's not "cush" in any way - no night float, so you get 10+ months of overnight call... not sure if it's Q2, 3, or 4, but compared to Wash U's "Q8" call (if you can even call it that), it seems harsh.
Baylor U Medical Center in Dallas, TX. I interviewed there a few years ago and the intern hardly had any patients, spent a lot of time studying for boards and told me they screened out all the patients with mental health issues out of the IM resident clinic.
So I assume they had no clinic patients then? "Batsh!t crazy" is a default part of the problem list at our resident clinic.
the beacon of hope for our health care system- the Mayo Clinic belongs somewhere in the list of cush programs as well. I just finished and when I swap notes with friends from other big programs, the three years I spent there have been easy
Wash U call is q4 (q8 overnight), q3 overnight in the ICU. On firm, NF is on every night except Friday, when the entire on call team stays. On every other call day, one of the two interns per team alternate staying overnight - thus, q8 overnight. So, I guess you can call it relatively "cush", but q8 was a little misleading.
Remember to talk to people at interviews. Q6 call at one program is not the same as Q6 at another. You may be surprised to see just how much difference there can be based on how much support you get from nurses and ED staff, how much does your upper level resident help you out, how easy and efficiently you can navigate the paperwork of admitting and discharging, what is your average patient census, is there coverage for you when you have to leave for clinic, etc.
Anyone know how Medical College of Wisconsin is or UC Irvine? Also UCLA and anyone from St. Joe's Exempla in Denver. I hear CU denver works you hard.
UC Irvine didn't look terrible. Not the best program out there, though. Pretty mediocre from my estimation. CU Denver does work pretty hard, although can't say if they've made many changes since then. 8 months of call all three years.
I'm in the application process, and have done a lot of talking to resident/interns about expectations. (I don't mind working hard--would prefer it most of the time! -- but like to know about differences between places). SO, I've learned that some programs are 'top heavy' -- like columbia or hopkins, where intern year is really tough but then years 2 and 3 are lighter. The advantage is that u go into 2nd year feeling a lot more confident and 3rd year feeling very confident (from what i'm told). Other programs may be more 'cush' the first year, but that may mean that things are more spready out over the 3 years (like ICU months, for example)
