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Just a simple question...is there somewhere to find a (reliable) list ranking the top D.O. Schools?
Frankthetank said:Just a simple question...is there somewhere to find a (reliable) list ranking the top D.O. Schools?
OSUdoc08 said:
raptor5 said:I rank in order of tuition so OSU and TCOM are tops while PCOM and MSU (out of state) are at the bottom. Needless to say I go to one of the worst schools. By the time I graduate I am sure tuition will be 40K. Greedy Bastards.
rjfreed said:simple question, simple answer...from a simple person.
period.
group_theory said:Tsk Tsk ... I expected you to be better informed.
raptor5 said:Because of this MSU lost its spot which I will give to NYCOM, KCUMB, and UNECOM.
raptor5 said:I can't believe you wasted your time pulling up tuition costs of schools. Bravo for your excellent research.
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I suppose PCOM will now suspend me for conduct detrimental to the team, oh I mean school.
Frankthetank said:Just a simple question...is there somewhere to find a (reliable) list ranking the top D.O. Schools?
pecanpie said:You should look at the US News and World Report Rankings for all med schools. There are 3 DO schools in the top 50. Those are Michigan State, Texas-TCOM, and West Virginia. These schools will also tend to have higher MCAT and GPA averages.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/brief/mdprank_brief.php
Nate said:I rate HCOM at #1 just because it is in Hawaii, how awesome is that?
OSUdoc08 said:West Virgina averages:
3.46
21.9
So probably not.
OSU-COM is in the top 55 for primary care (they are # 54), by the way.
Okay, that's just hilarious!!!Kevbot said:I was going to apply to HCOM.... but when i found out the dean of admissions was just a coconut with a face painted on it, I changed my mind. Theyre faculty student ratio is amazing though... do you have any idea how many coconuts are in hawaii?
agree!Dr.MISHKA said:I can tell you that the MCAT means nothing as far a board scores go. I barely cracked a 29 (8 in physical ) and I did 99% percentile on comlex and 99/250 on usmle (really high). While there were some in my class who had 31's and did horrible on boards. Just bust you a$$ and you can get whatever you want on boards. Therefore the MCAT means nothing and is a silly little hoop you must jump through to become a doctor.
Dr.MISHKA said:I can tell you that the MCAT means nothing as far a board scores go. I barely cracked a 29 (8 in physical ) and I did 99% percentile on comlex and 99/250 on usmle (really high). While there were some in my class who had 31's and did horrible on boards. Just bust you a$$ and you can get whatever you want on boards. Therefore the MCAT means nothing and is a silly little hoop you must jump through to become a doctor.
Dr.MISHKA said:I can tell you that the MCAT means nothing as far a board scores go. I barely cracked a 29 (8 in physical ) and I did 99% percentile on comlex and 99/250 on usmle (really high). While there were some in my class who had 31's and did horrible on boards. Just bust you a$$ and you can get whatever you want on boards. Therefore the MCAT means nothing and is a silly little hoop you must jump through to become a doctor.
WVSOM's COMLEX I pass rate was 92% last year (for SBL).pecanpie said:A 29 isn't far off from a 31, but very far off from 22 (WV's average). You should note that most schools that have low MCAT averages tend to not publish their COMLEX results. I still believe the MCAT is a predictor of board results. Of course there are always exceptions. A lot can happen in the 4 years between the MCAT and the boards. But in general, people who do well on the MCAT have a greater potential to do well on boards.
Dr.MISHKA said:Hope this settles it:
Here's all the Average MCATS I could find for Osteo schools (from high to low)
Average GPA was variable, but usually around 3.5-3.6
AZCOM MCAT 9 Comlex pass rate last two years 100%, 100%
Texas COM 8.9 Comlex pass rate last two years 97%, 100%
new jersey 8.8
Western U 8.8
Oklahoma State COM 8.7 Comlex Pass Rate last two years 100%, 99%
touro 8.5
Michigan State 8.4
DMU 8.4 Comlex pass rate last year 94%
NOVA 8.1
Philly 8.1
new england 8.1
NYCOM 8
West Virgina COM 7.6
Edward via Virgina 7.5
Pikeville 7.4
can't find info on other schools
Additionally Michigan state was ranked 9th for primary care, Texas and West Virginia were ranked 48th each for primary care, and Oklahoma State 54th in primary care.
I can't find the passing rates for each of the school's step I's but someone feel free to chime in with the info
Additionally, the top 5 osteopathic schools listed (AZCOM, Texas, NJ, Western, OSU) had similar or just slightly lower admission stats to the mid and low tier MD schools - especially those schools of the southern regions.
(e.g Oklahoma 9.5, Kansas 9.5, Texas Tech 9.4, Ut Houston 9.3, East Tennesse 9.3, Texas A+M 9.2, Arkansas 9.2, East Carolina 8.8, Mercer 8.4, Howard 7.9) as well as a few other states (South Dakota 9.2, North Dakota 8.8, Southern Illinois 8.7)
For Example I had a 9.6 and 3.95 and got into Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A+M, Arkansas, Ut-Galveston, Michigan State. Go where you are comfortable, regardless of DO/MD. (But remember, you double your chances of a residency in some (primary care fields) as a competetive DO - you can do a DO or MD residency - same is not true for MD - especially noncompetetive MD applicant.) (ER is VERY DO friendly!)
Best Wishes
The Mish
Dr.MISHKA said:I got my GPA/MCAT averages from the USNEWS report 2005 which used last years entering class for stats. Again, sorry for any inaccurate numbers, but board pass rates for TCOM I got from a friend that graduated from there. And those pass rates were for students that are interns and 4th years now for TCOM and 3rd and 4th years for the rest. All board pass rates were posted for step I only. I just wanted to give some approximates for peeps to use. No need to get riled up.
Best wishes
The Mish