DAT Done... 07/22/2008

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harrygt

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So my test was at 8:30 today morning. I went to bed at 11:00 pm and woke up at 4:00 am. The DAT did not let me sleep more than that. I had the Kaplan Final practice test which I had not taken, so I decided to take its science sections in early morning [It was better than sitting in the dark]. It was kind of a warm up for me, although I do not recommend this to anyone.
Here are my scores

PAT 20 ----------------%87
RC 18🙁 ---------------%38.1
QR 22 -----------------%94.1
Bio 24 -----------------%98.4
Gchem 27--------------%99
Ochem 27 -------------%98.2

Ts 26 -----------------%99.8
AA 24 -----------------%99.2

I have been studying my science courses continuously since a couple of years ago, and earned good grades in them. I bought the Kaplan blue book a year ago, and skimmed through it. However, I don't think it had any effect on my grades. I have neither Destroyer, nor Achiever and Topscore, so I can't give any feedback on those.
I found other posters' break down of their DAT very helpful, so I'm gonna do it as well.
Here is my break down:

Bio: It was easy, but there were about 4-5 WEIRD questions. If you have earned good scores in your college Bio classes, you can easily make a 20 on Bio. There was only one taxonomy question which was dealing with important characteristics of the phylums. So make sure you know the basic characteristics of each phylum, and don't get into much detail. There were a couple of questions which needed some analysis, but the rest was pretty much straight forward.

Gchem: I don't even know what I missed here. Mine was mostly calculations, so be ready for that. Everything was clear, and the calculations were easy to handle. Skip the questions that sound weird at the beginning, and get back to them at your extra time of the science section. I skipped about 3 gchem question [I had no clue about them at my first look], and got back to them at my extra time. Boy, they looked like a piece of cake once I got back to them [You know, once you finish the science section, you're brain works much better on the questions that you have skipped]

Ochem: There was a question which did NOT have any correct answer [And I'm sure about this]. So I had to chose one of the choices which was similar. I think this is the one that I missed. Anyway, Ochem had a lot of lab NMR stuff in it [I would say 4 at least], so make sure you become proficient in those. There reactions were at least 2 step reactions, and nothing weird. There were a couple of questions which you had to use some analysis, but they were totally doable.

PAT: Anyone who has not got the Crack Dat Pat software, should get it ASAP. my Crack scores were 19,18,18,18,20,21,20,21,21, and I did not take the last one.

Keyholes: very similar to CDP. There were only two hard ones, and the rest was easy.

TFE: The line counting method does not work on the real thing. It was not harder than CDP though. I was scoring 8-10 on CDP without using the "line counting" trick, and I think it I got the answer to about 10 of them on the real thing as well.

Hole Punching: This was again very similar to CDP. In fact, it was easier. I started getting average of 10 on CDP hole. pun. Then I went through the explanations, and I got much better. There were about 3-4 weird folds on the real thing, but you will be able to figure them out if you work on CDP's hole punching

Angles: The difficulty was the same as CDP again. Make sure you do the angles in less than 6 minutes. Don't spend a lot of time staring at the angles. It was also helpful to look at the choices. There were about 5 cases when you could easily get to the answer by finding the obvious big or small angle.

Cubes: I scored 15/15 on 7 out of 9 crack Pat test, although crack was hard. The real thing is much easier. Each figure has less cubes compared to CDP. However, there were a couple of more figures on the real thing. Some of the figures would have only two questions, and then you would see another figure. I guess having more figures cancels out with having less cubes in each figure. It was still easier and less time consuming than CDP Cube Counting.

Pattern folding: It was a bit harder than CDP. I think I might have got something close to 10 on this section. Not that hard though, but still...

Reading Comp. : I started pretty well on the first passage, and I think I got a 17/17 there. What I did was was skimming through reading the upcoming 3-4 questions, and then reading the passage. I would then answer any the ones that I encountered in the text. I got a bit sluggish during the second passage [I thought I was on the beach or sth], and that made me fall behind. If I had only another 5 minutes, I could easilly boost my score to 20. Make sure you haunt this section till the last minute, and not let your speed fall.

Quantitative reasoning : I was a bit unlucky here. I had TOO MANY word problems [About 15], and also about 4 arithmetic questions which you have to multiply, divide or get the radical of big numbers. I was getting 30s on Kaplan practice tests. This one was really tough though. I was doing the algebra questions in about 35 seconds each to save me time, but that did not help.

I think I wrote enough. Hit me with questions if you have any.
 
harry congrats man wow that's the only thing to say!! You just made my night you deserve it great scores! What were ur rc passages?
 
So you are going to apply to Harvard with those scores?? 😉

Nice job!! I've seen a lot of your posts around here, helping people out. Looks like it paid off!
 
P.S. Thanks sooo much for the analysis of the PAT section vs. Crack. That was really helpful. I'm doing PAT stuff right now and I was *just* wondering about the cubes (# of cubes, # of separate diagrams) before I got on sdn! 😎
 
yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you got 24 AA just like you want. PRoud of you!!!!!!!!!! should have posted yeaahhh!! I am done ....told you to post yeahh !!! Congratulationss!!! Very happy for you 🙂
 
if you really feel that you were right in your OC, then i believe there's a way for you to contact ADEA or someone about it. a dentist i shadowed was in a similar situation & he contested the choices & he was right & had his score boosted.

since you don't really need to...it's up to you.

anyway, congrats! can't wait to be in your shoes in ~ a month!
 
Congratulations. You put my TS to shame, good job.

Enjoy dental school, maybe we'll see each other at interviews.
 
I have never seen in both gen chem and orgo 27's. You did awesome. You can say hello to dental schools. I don't think you even need luck with those scores. WOW
 
Congratulation Harry, great job, I knew you would ace you DAT, honestly I was thinking you would have three "30". O chem , Gchem and QR. you desrve that, now enjoy the ride. Good luck for your interview in UCLA ! 👍
 
What total sources did you use for your gchem and ochem studying?

I went through my Gchem and Ochem college and university notes. I also skimmed throught Kaplan Blue book's Gchem section. I really can't tell if it was helpful or not, since I knew almost all of it.
 


PAT 20 ----------------%87
RC 18🙁 ---------------%38.1
QR 22 -----------------%94.1
Bio 24 -----------------%98.4
Gchem 27--------------%99
Ochem 27 -------------%98.2

Ts 26 -----------------%99.8
AA 24 -----------------%99.2


You bastard! i love you but i'm gonna hate you for rest of tonight.... Just playing man...dude...u killed it! Congrats bro, wow...27 on gchem and ochem!? awesome scores Harry. Good luck at UCLA buddy.

How many figures in cube counting did you get? were there any illusions? Were there any half hole punches or ridiculous ass folds? What about pattern folding--did you get that cube with only one line in different orientation on each face like in CDP?

did u make sure u blaze before the exam? U must have since ur scores were so high. 😀
 
Now you deserve to be that one guy who enters UCLA or UCSF without a Bachelor's degree. Good job! 👍
 
seriously WOW score! Just after looking at your scores I registered to congratulate you. I've been reading this blog for quite some time now but never thought of being a member. I just have couple questions and I'll really appreciate your reply.
1. How much did you study for the DAT?
2. Did you ever take a practice test? If yes, then how did you do in it?
3. Did you use any source other than your notes?
Thanks, n again Congratulations!
 
Nice scores, I guess you missed less than 5 on the entire science section, not too shabby...lol...

maybe missed less than 20 on the whole test. Great job and I hope your hard work paid off. Good luck
 
Nice scores, I guess you missed less than 5 on the entire science section, not too shabby...lol...

maybe missed less than 20 on the whole test. Great job and I hope your hard work paid off. Good luck

How do you know 5? 1 on each chem and 3 on bio?
 
How do you know 5? 1 on each chem and 3 on bio?

I have no idea, just guesstimating. That sounds plausible and was what I was thinking, or maybe none in one of the sections, 1 in a science and 3-4 in Bio.

You could look it up in the charts, but I don't really want to.

Let's just put it this way: he didn't miss very many!
 
I have no idea, just guesstimating. That sounds plausible and was what I was thinking, or maybe none in one of the sections, 1 in a science and 3-4 in Bio.

You could look it up in the charts, but I don't really want to.

Let's just put it this way: he didn't miss very many!

Oh ok haha
Definitely missed a very small amount.
I bet this lucky SOB is sleeping right now, probably smiling while he sleeps.
Amazing job. Are you a second year?
 
Oh ok haha
Definitely missed a very small amount.
I bet this lucky SOB is sleeping right now, probably smiling while he sleeps.
Amazing job. Are you a second year?
Hahaha, I actually went to bed at 9:00 pm, but I got a phone call 20 mins ago, which woke me up. I'm gonna answer the questions now, and get back to bed. BTW, yeah, I'm gonna become a junior this Fall.
 
You bastard! i love you but i'm gonna hate you for rest of tonight.... Just playing man...dude...u killed it! Congrats bro, wow...27 on gchem and ochem!? awesome scores Harry. Good luck at UCLA buddy.

How many figures in cube counting did you get? were there any illusions? Were there any half hole punches or ridiculous ass folds? What about pattern folding--did you get that cube with only one line in different orientation on each face like in CDP?

did u make sure u blaze before the exam? U must have since ur scores were so high. 😀

Thanks bro. There were two more figures on cub counting, but as I said, the number of cubes in each figure was much less than the ones on CDP. So this kinda compensates for two more figures. Overall, the cube counting was much easier than CDP, and there were no illusions. There were hidden cubes though which you have to consider, but nothing hard.
 
cool thanks. Dude my exam is Thrusday and I only did one full length test. Should I do more RC? I haven't done any RC except for that one that was on the full length test.
 
seriously WOW score! Just after looking at your scores I registered to congratulate you. I've been reading this blog for quite some time now but never thought of being a member. I just have couple questions and I'll really appreciate your reply.
1. How much did you study for the DAT? I started studying a year ago, taking my Bio and chem classes seriously and practicing for DAT during the year.
2. Did you ever take a practice test? If yes, then how did you do in it? I took the kaplan practice tests, and I would usually miss between 0-3 questions on each section[Talking about science]. However, those practice tests usually have some weird stuff which don't let you get a perfect score. The real DAT questions were not ambiguous but needed more analysis [except one wrong Ochem question].
3. Did you use any source other than your notes? I just skimmed through Kaplan's blue book about 6 months ago, and I can't tell if it was useful or not. I almost knew most of the stuff. I read Campbell's Bio book in details, however most of the details that I studied were unnecessary. Try to get the main ideas and the broad image. I have heard from a handful of friends that Destroyer is the best source.
Thanks, n again Congratulations!
All right
 
cool thanks. Dude my exam is Thrusday and I only did one full length test. Should I do more RC? I haven't done any RC except for that one that was on the full length test.

I would say do another one. I did three only. It's very important to keep your cool on RC and not to get sluggish.
 
awesome,awesome,awesome scores! best of luck to you. sounds like you worked hard and deserved it.
 
Excellent job man!!!!! I knew you would rock the sciences. Once again man, congrats!
 
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