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I wouldn’t be so assuming. Most people take Step 3 in their PGY1 year, and OP is starting PGY3 in about month. Programs might wonder why he would even wait that long, and I would assume a good majority of applying PGY3 would have already taken it.You certainly won’t be the only one with this problem. As long as your scores on steps 1 and 2 were solid I wouldn’t worry about it.
I mean fair enough, and I'm aware of the normal timeline, but the OP also can't do anything about it.I wouldn’t be so assuming. Most people take Step 3 in their PGY1 year, and OP is starting PGY3 in about month. Programs might wonder why he would even wait that long, and I would assume a good majority of applying PGY3 would have already taken it.
This depends on where he's trying to be.You certainly won’t be the only one with this problem. As long as your scores on steps 1 and 2 were solid I wouldn’t worry about it.
I could definitely be wrong here, but I thought that an overwhelming majority of IM grads from strong programs (ie those where residents go for competitive specialties) pass step 3 without breaking a sweat, meaning that whenever testing centers open up again the OP is very likely to pass. So I really have a hard time believing that it's going to make or break the OP if he had decent step 1/2 scores.This depends on where he's trying to be.
At least some states will require a permanent license before PGY4+ - California for example. And while they're waiving some timeline stuff due to covid, I don't see programs wanting to bank on that. So if I were a fellowship program in CA, I wouldn't consider anyone without Step 3 previously passed - there would be a non-zero chance they literally wouldn't be legally allowed to work in the state.
It’s a licensing requirement in Cali, so yes, I can see how it would be a problem.I could definitely be wrong here, but I thought that an overwhelming majority of IM grads from strong programs (ie those where residents go for competitive specialties) pass step 3 without breaking a sweat, meaning that whenever testing centers open up again the OP is very likely to pass. So I really have a hard time believing that it's going to make or break the OP if he had decent step 1/2 scores.
1) Did the OP say he’s applying to CA and I just missed it?It’s a licensing requirement in Cali, so yes, I can see how it would be a problem.
1) Did the OP say he’s applying to CA and I just missed it?
2) I never said it wouldn’t be a problem eventually, just that I don’t think prospective fellowship programs will see that as an app-killer when determining interviews.
3) Based on posting history, the OP had very strong step 1/2 scores. So imagining that the OP will suddenly have issues passing what is generally the easiest licensing exam, particularly in IM, seems wholly unfounded.
1) Did the OP say he’s applying to CA and I just missed it?
2) I never said it wouldn’t be a problem eventually, just that I don’t think prospective fellowship programs will see that as an app-killer when determining interviews.
3) Based on posting history, the OP had very strong step 1/2 scores. So imagining that the OP will suddenly have issues passing what is generally the easiest licensing exam, particularly in IM, seems wholly unfounded.
Fair enough. I'm really surprised that this might be held against the OP, particularly given his/her prior step scores and the exceptional circumstances. But y'all would know better than me.@GoSpursGo Notice that the IM folks are less confident.
Hi all,
I am a PGY2 preparing to apply to fellowship in a moderately competitive specialty after IM residency
I put off taking STEP 3 until the end of the spring due to some scheduling issues. Unfortunately, my test was recently canceled (due to the random cancellations Prometric is doing due to COVID) and there are no current test dates available in my area until the end of August.
Will not having taken step 3 by the time fellowship applications are released to programs appear as a red flag? I do not anticipate any issues passing the test itself.
I know these are strange times, and I would appreciate any opinions or words of wisdom you guys may have on this!
Probably affects it some, but not enough to be a meaningful issue. ID isn't that competitive - there's typically less applicants than positions - so they can't afford to be too picky if thats the only red flag you have.If you fail step 3 in your intern year but then pass it in a few months, does that effect ID fellowship match? Like does it effect how many interviews they send you?