If you are reading this post its important to remember that folks who have achieved their phd already have biases toward the supremacy of their own institution.
Except this is not the argument people were making re: Adelphi. They weren't arguing that their alma mater is better than Adelphi or even arguing in favor of any program for that matter. Instead, they were arguing against a program that is very expensive, performs poorly on objective outcome metrics (e.g., EPPP), and relies on captive internships to game the internship match system stats.
There are others on this board who are on the waitlist and have an interest in dissuading you from attending.
This is borderline paranoid.
It took me a moment to realize that was an interrogative statement. I think you meant "What the F..."? As the name implies, that organization is centered out of the middle east and ranks universities. They use an amalgamated approach whereas the US News ranking relies on administrator surveys.
No one actually in the field cares about this ranking system. Regardless, do you not see how this is confirmation bias by searching for some ranking system that casts Adelphi in a good light despite all other objective metrics to the contrary?
As far as the EPPP pass rates I asked this question to the dean of the Institute. He said " yes, it's a statistical anomaly I suppose. We don't believe in teaching to an exam. We believe in creating excellent clinicians and researchers. The exam will follow that". He's a former faculty member at the University of Pennsylvania- a very impressive person too.
This is just a deflecting rationalization. A full 1/3 of its grads can't pass the EPPP, which is incredibly alarming,
http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.asppb.net/resource/resmgr/EPPP_/2016_Scores_by_Doctoral_Prog.pdf
The tuition is approximately 45k with a 15k remittance. Later years are billed at part time status. The former thread included numbers as high as $200k. I'm not sure where that came from. Also there was no mention of work study, TA's, merit scholarship, grants...it was all very one sided. Derner is a very competitive program and I can understand being resentful if you were declined enrollment but psychology_dreamer was looking for advice and it took a very negative turn.
This is just more deflection with a hint of paranoia. Do you really think everyone in that thread is critical of Adelphi based on being denied admission?
Will it be expensive- sure. Will you be able to pay it off- yes. I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept.
You are woefully underestimating the gravity of the funding situation and what it's like to have six figures of debt as a psychologist. You're talking about easily $100,000 in tuition costs alone before factoring in conference travel, internship applications and interviews, living expenses, and other unforeseen costs (e.g., major car repairs). This is just not manageable for most people based on the median earnings for psychologists, which is especially problematic for th 1/3 of Adelphi grads who can't pass the EPPP.
No I can hear the passion with which you espouse funding. I am not arguing that funding isn't best if available. I was asking what institution you studied at.
You act like funding is some kind of personal lark or interest rather than a hugely consequential matter, both in terms of your financial standing/future and a sign of the quality of your program.
I'm curious Wis...where did you receive training?
Nobody cares who (s)he is...that was my point...its an internet board...no one is going to parse through thousands of posts to piece together who Wis is...its cute that you defend him/her though
If "nobody cares" then why ask and be so insistent about it?
I would like to read OP's responses to these questions. All of them are fair questions. I'm most interested in the first question as it is obviously not easily accessible information. Adelphi is not clear at all about their funding.
OP mentioned the availability of TA and GA positions. What is the average total financial package for 1st years? 2nd? 3rd and beyond?
This is purposeful. These kinds of programs that are largely or completely unfunded, have poor outcome stats, and rely on captive internships to game the system are intentionally opaque about their funding.