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Hi SDN members,
well. I am really screwed. i wanted to enter medical school right after i graduated but i guess that is out o fthe picture. i will graduate when i am 21 and i would have entered medical school when i am 22, but thats not going to happened since i didnt take ochem. i enrolled in summer in ochem at santa clara university, but i couldn?t take it. it was waaay too hard and fast for me. so i dropped out. i felt really bad cuz i thought i failed myself and family. but if i stayed, i would have gotten an F and suffered.

so...my orginal plan was to get all my science pre-med requirements DONE by my junior year, take the kalan mcat course in spring 2004 and take the mcat in april 2004...apply that summer and hopefully get in and enter med school the fall after i graduate (i graduate in may 2005 and enter med school in fall 2005), but since i dropped ochem...im screwed. i dont know what i should do. im going crazy. PLEASE help me. here is what i have left to do (pre-med requirements, major and minor):
*=have to retake
+=completed course

Biology major requirements:
General bio I+ (got a C-)
General bio II+ (got a C-)
Genetics+
Ecology
Evolution
Elective 1 with lab: Microbio
Elective 2 with lab: Human Anatomy
Elective 3 with lab: Comparative Animal Behavior
Elective 4: Biological Electron Microscopy
Elective 5: Topics in Biomedical research
General Chemistry I+ (got a C)
General Chemistry II* (got an F?will retake)
Organic Chemistry I
Organic Chemistry II
General Physics I* (got a D..retake)
General Physics II* (got a D?will retake)
Statistics
Pre-calc* (got an F?will retake)

Religious Studies Minor:
Biblical Studies
World Religions+ (got an A)
Social Ethics
(2 electives): Biomedical ethics
Autobio and religion or Special topics

Med school requirements:

1 year bio+
1 year Ochem
1 year Chem (kinda completed)
1 year Physics (kinda completed)
1 semester math kinda done
Variety of Humanities classes done
1 year English will be done this year

Please help me. I don?t know what to do. I trust you all. I made most if not all of you are doctors and have made it this far. Please help.
 
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How do you plan on graduating in 4 years when you are going to have to retake 80% of your classes from the first two years.

i'd reccomend taking a few years off college.
 
You sound like you're in a rush to get into medical school. It's not just about finishing your pre-req but it's also about doing well in them.

You don't have to finish all of your pre-req before you apply. As long as you finish them BEFORE you enter medical school, it's aight with the school.

The D and the F that you obtained will be factored into your science GPA along with the new grade you'd be getting by re-taking. You might want to take try taking a lighter course load like one or two science classes a semester. In addition, you may have to take additional science classes to bring your science GPA up.

Other options would be to look into postbac programs or pursue a masters and then apply for medical school.

It seems like there's alot of parental pressure on you to apply to medical school given the other posts you've made. If you're living at home - move out. You won't make it into medical school and succeed medical school if you're not doing it for yourself and if it's not your passion. So I do hope that this is what YOU really want to do.
 
I agree with Cerebrus......I'm sure it's not the advice you want, but you need to take some time and re-evaluate your motivation and desire to be a doctor, as well as how you need to change your study habits and learning techniques. No medical school will accept a student whose transcript is full of D's and F's...regardless of how badly they want to be a doctor.


What's the rush? Enjoy college (but still work hard.) What will happen to you in medical school? Will you be a first year whose panicking about getting into residency? Work on things that are in your control......things in the present.
 
Silver,

I am really sorry that college has kinda gotten the best of you and that you are struggling. My advice is going to sound harsh, but it's the best advice I can give you and I've been where you are. If you want any chance of graduating on time, you need to temporarily put your dreams of med school on hold. As my buddy Cerberus correctly points out, you are going to have to retake a large part of the med school requirements and that is going to take time. Also, if you don't excel at the retakes, you are not going to have a chance of getting interviews. Also, the MCAT is based heavily on coursework that you have failed and coursework that you have not taken which builds upon coursework you have failed. Either way, you are going to have to spend a long time trying to repair your transcript and still try to graduate. Plus, unfortunately you have a poor foundation on which you are trying to become a Bio major. I think that your first priority should be to find a major that you can excel in and build up your GPA (forget Bio, and maybe change your minor into your major). I think many will agree with me that your major is really unimportant as far as med school admissions. I would continue with advising you to get into a postbac program (like the one I took) when you graduate, but I think that is premature. Hold off on focusing on med school and concentrate on graduating with a halfway decent GPA and as close to on time as you can. Also, you REALLY need to speak with your premed advisor and get their opinion. I know this stings but trust me, if you retake all those prereqs and do poorly again, you will truly be screwed. As always, take what I say with a grain of salt, I am not a premed advisor/adcom!
 
I think you should look deep inside and decide if this is what you really want. Science GPA is important in the application process. Is your struggle with the courses the result of lack of preparation or just the level of the coursework? Medical schools are going to look very critically at a student who had to repeat most of the pre-med courses (yes, retaking courses does show up on your AMCAS application).

If medical school is really what you want, then perhaps taking a year or two away from college, to prepare yourself for the challenges that lay ahead, is a good idea.

Being a biology major and a premed does require some sacrifices. Long hours in labs and studying while your friends are out having a good time can really suck.

I guess the first question is: Is this what you really want?
If you are sure then your next question is: What do I have to do and sacrifice to make this happen?
Lastly, Are you willing to do/sacrifice those things?

Find people who can be of help like a pre-med advisor.

Best of Luck to you
 
Medical school is 100% determination! Don't let that C- get in the way of your dreams... or the other C-, or that other C, let alone the F, D, D, F! Oh yeah, and don't let that professor who is racist against indians and pakis stop you either.
 
Originally posted by GoodMonkey
don't worry, manic. at least some of us have seen this $hit before. lordy, biannual is right. when will she farkin go away? 🙄
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is this a Joke???? i am asking for your guys help and this is the advice you give??? NIIIICE. God help you all.
 
JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY! Cool movie, and cooler reference 🙂.

YEah someone should ban silvereyes or something. You shouldn't restart pity threads...
 
My approach is going to be this: Be honest to SilverEyes and maybe she won't post the same question again.

Silver-you're grades are NOT good enough to apply to med school. The reality is, if you cannot hack these intro courses you are in no way going to succeed at the MCAT or med school. You should maybe reconsider your career goals, get a job in the health care field and figure out what all your options are. Sorry to be harsh, but the reality is you have to be really smart and really good at science to be a doctor.
 
The Doctor says: take some time off, work in some tedious painful jobs where you are forced to smile and be pleasant to a boss who frightens you, and coworkers who make you want to scream, and you think you might go mad from the boredom.

Flip burgers for a while and try and pay your rent on the salary; try and be entirely self-supporting when the temperature outside is like, 20 degrees and your windows are rattling. Volunteer in an ER, or Nursing home, where you might see people die - or be close to it.

In short - go out in the world, make your way and learn what it is about and how you might be able to fit in - without your parents behind you.

I think the world can knock us together pretty quickly and help us to grow up and get it together. Then, when YOU decide you can actually handle the coursework - and maybe then you will have the ability and drive - then start taking the courses you need.

But it will take a few good years of maturing to make a difference.

We're all so harsh, but then it IS a very harsh process.
 
Honestly, those grades don't look so good

did you have a life altering experience while you were taking those classes?

You might want to consider some other career. The hard truth is that those grades probably won't even get you past a screening committee.
 
You need to retake your physics classes. Med schools won't accept D's. YOu need at least a C-.

Honestly, I've replied to you many times before. Get a grip on life. I don't think med school is for you. You once said you wanted to apply to all 140 med schools in the US. Get real. Stop wasting your (or your parents') money. If you can't even get through ochem without dropping it (a summer course at that! What was it this time? Was the prof discriminatory against pakis again?) do you really think you can hack it in med school? I'll be the first one to tell you that med school isn't hard (I'm an M2 come september) but it takes a decent amount of intelligence to make it through, which you obviously don't have right now. Take a few years off and come back in a post-bac program if it's still what you want. A lot of people in my class take a few years off between undergrad and med school. i think that's what you need to do, to try and salvage what you can.
 
Silver Eyes,
This must be your nth thread posting the same questions over and over. Really, you have been given such valuable advice from so many of the sdners, yet you seem to be oblivious to them. If u have enough sense, then you won't post threads about the same topics. I really feel sorry for you so I am going to go ahead and post. ha!

Listen, if you really really really really really really want to go into medicine then you have lot of options to get into a medical school. I am assuming you are a sophmore. The options are that you do either (1) Do a post-bacc and shine in your classes, (2) Obtain a masters degree and shine in your classes , (3) Take a year off, go do something non-academic related or just time off to relax and start again with a fresh approach and then do either option (1) or (2), or (4) If you are interested in DO schools, repeat the sci classes and excel in them and apply. or (5) Go apply to a foreign medical school.

Firstly, people who want to do something with their lives don't sit around and complain but DO something about their situation and work on improving and not repeating the same mistakes. Second, read my signature.

Now, get ur butt of sdn and just focus on your future plans. Next time, u will post a thread like this, I will bother Lee Burnett to make me a moderator and I will not let ur threads ( similar to this one) live for even a minute and will close all ur future threads and ban you! 😀
 
You should apply to Meharry, Howard, Guadalajara, and Manila.
 
Originally posted by silver_eyes
is this a Joke???? i am asking for your guys help and this is the advice you give??? NIIIICE. God help you all.
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here's an advice
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med schools will take whatever your under-grad institution said passed. So if you got a D in physics at a school like GA Tech and they count that a passing, that's as good or better than a C at a community college. Don't discourage about bad grades but don't discount them either, work to overcome them and if you dream of being a physician, you will persevere. Your motivation means way more than your credentials.
 
Originally posted by momof2
med schools will take whatever your under-grad institution said passed. So if you got a D in physics at a school like GA Tech and they count that a passing, that's as good or better than a C at a community college. Don't discourage about bad grades but don't discount them either, work to overcome them and if you dream of being a physician, you will persevere. Your motivation means way more than your credentials.
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THANK YOU! FOR ONCE SOMEBODY ISNT SPLITTING MY THROAT OPEN.

and for the millionth time...YES, i am doing this for MYSELF! GOD! If you want to pursue a career for someone else, while in reality you are dreading to pursue that career, you will never get far in acheiving that goal. If i didnt want to become a doctor for myself, then i dont think i would have gotten this far. despite all this that has happened to me, i am still looking forward to enter medschool in the next 2 or 3 years. momof2, obviously knows how to comfort people and will become an excellent physician. Everybody else on this form are just people who like to suck the life out of everybody lower than than, who are trying to become a doctor just like everybody else on this forum. i think it is time for you guys to give advice that people will actually listen to. do u think if you were telling your pateint to "turn the F*** over so i can give you a shot," that he/she will actually do that if you said it that way?? I think not.
 
{QUOTE]Everybody else on this form are just people who like to suck the life out of everybody lower than than, who are trying to become a doctor just like everybody else on this forum. i think it is time for you guys to give advice that people will actually listen to.[/QUOTE]


Silver_eyes,

I fear you overgeneralize. Many of the people on this forum have given you very solid advice. For example:

I am really sorry that college has kinda gotten the best of you and that you are struggling. My advice is going to sound harsh, but it's the best advice I can give you and I've been where you are. If you want any chance of graduating on time, you need to temporarily put your dreams of med school on hold. As my buddy Cerberus correctly points out, you are going to have to retake a large part of the med school requirements and that is going to take time. Also, if you don't excel at the retakes, you are not going to have a chance of getting interviews. Also, the MCAT is based heavily on coursework that you have failed and coursework that you have not taken which builds upon coursework you have failed. Either way, you are going to have to spend a long time trying to repair your transcript and still try to graduate. Plus, unfortunately you have a poor foundation on which you are trying to become a Bio major. I think that your first priority should be to find a major that you can excel in and build up your GPA (forget Bio, and maybe change your minor into your major). I think many will agree with me that your major is really unimportant as far as med school admissions. I would continue with advising you to get into a postbac program (like the one I took) when you graduate, but I think that is premature. Hold off on focusing on med school and concentrate on graduating with a halfway decent GPA and as close to on time as you can. Also, you REALLY need to speak with your premed advisor and get their opinion. I know this stings but trust me, if you retake all those prereqs and do poorly again, you will truly be screwed. As always, take what I say with a grain of salt, I am not a premed advisor/adcom!
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I think you should look deep inside and decide if this is what you really want. Science GPA is important in the application process. Is your struggle with the courses the result of lack of preparation or just the level of the coursework? Medical schools are going to look very critically at a student who had to repeat most of the pre-med courses (yes, retaking courses does show up on your AMCAS application).

If medical school is really what you want, then perhaps taking a year or two away from college, to prepare yourself for the challenges that lay ahead, is a good idea.

Being a biology major and a premed does require some sacrifices. Long hours in labs and studying while your friends are out having a good time can really suck.

I guess the first question is: Is this what you really want?
If you are sure then your next question is: What do I have to do and sacrifice to make this happen?
Lastly, Are you willing to do/sacrifice those things?

Find people who can be of help like a pre-med advisor.

Best of Luck to you
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If you click on the link that manicmaven offered, you will find that in your earlier post, many people offered you good advice.

It is true that some of the people on both threads have been mean, but such is life. If this is truly your dream, then go for it and don't let anyone stand in your way. But, if you choose to ask people for their advice, you must be prepared to get harsh answers. If you want someone to whine to, that's what best friends are for. Our world is not one of fluffy clouds and pink bunnies. Sometimes, the truth hurts.

And with this, I bid farewell to this thread.
 
if you want HELP, feel free to e-mail me personally ([email protected]) , and i'll be glad to give whatever advice. However, If all you are willing to accept is stuff you LIKE to hear, then you will suffer the same way i've seen so many of my friends. In which case there isn't much i have to offer.

If you ingnore anything you don't want to hear, you'll never see reality.
an analogy..
if a large tornado is going to hit florida , and a resident only believe those people who say it will NOT flood him out, then that resident will be in trouble, loose his house, and get further into soup.


i don't believe in stopping anythign besides outright spam.


One thing to keep in mind, many people apply a lot past age 21, 22, or even in their thirties.
Secondly, I always though i'd let people down if I did poor, but the premed classes are TOUGH. And people realize that. If they don't, they will soon enough.

And I don't think anyone can NOT do them though, if they set their mind to it, and give themselves the nesscesary time. So, just keep at it. Apply once you have good grades, and feel you can manage the courses well. it would be more of a mistake to end up at medschool and not be able/want to handle it.
 
just a second question, reading more carefully

are you looking for ADIVCE or COMFORTING?

Let us know, because we can respond differently. At least i know, i can give either. Seems like you're receptive to comforting, not advice. I personally prefer honest advice, but I know everyone is different. If you're looking for only comfort and encouragement from SDN, just be specific about that and i think less ppl will hamper on you.

Good luck,
Sonya
 
Originally posted by silver_eyes
THANK YOU! FOR ONCE SOMEBODY ISNT SPLITTING MY THROAT OPEN.

and for the millionth time...YES, i am doing this for MYSELF! GOD! If you want to pursue a career for someone else, while in reality you are dreading to pursue that career, you will never get far in acheiving that goal. If i didnt want to become a doctor for myself, then i dont think i would have gotten this far. despite all this that has happened to me, i am still looking forward to enter medschool in the next 2 or 3 years. momof2, obviously knows how to comfort people and will become an excellent physician. Everybody else on this form are just people who like to suck the life out of everybody lower than than, who are trying to become a doctor just like everybody else on this forum. i think it is time for you guys to give advice that people will actually listen to. do u think if you were telling your pateint to "turn the F*** over so i can give you a shot," that he/she will actually do that if you said it that way?? I think not.
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This is exactly why I haven't given you advice in the past. I tried to treat you like an adult and give you advice, albeit somewhat discouraging, that could actually lead to you becoming a doctor. I have even said that I have been where you are and I am now in medical school. You then proceed to throw a childlike tantrum disparaging those that are actually trying to help you. I wish I could help you more, but you don't seem to be interested. I was warned against posting and did it anyway, shame on me.
 
Originally posted by ussdfiant
This is exactly why I haven't given you advice in the past. I tried to treat you like an adult and give you advice, albeit somewhat discouraging, that could actually lead to you becoming a doctor. I have even said that I have been where you are and I am now in medical school. You then proceed to throw a childlike tantrum disparaging those that are actually trying to help you. I wish I could help you more, but you don't seem to be interested. I was warned against posting and did it anyway, shame on me.
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i am not directing this towards you. no where in my post have i mentioned any names, except momof2. i know people have giving me both, comfort and advice, and i prefer honest advice, rather than being directed the wrong way. BUT, there are ways of saying things like people have (harshly), in much more nicer ways. i am no baby. i am 19, almost 20. i know how to handle it, but it will do me and other people a great deal if people could say it ina much nicer way. that's all i ask.
 
silver, people are being harsh w/you b/c you don't want to listen to honest criticism. this is what, the second? third? time you've started a thread like this where you seem to be asking for help but are really asking for pity. so people started off (several months ago) being nice, but you didn't seem to listen, so now they're being blunt. so i'm going to be blunt, too, but i'm not going to insult you.

here's a fact: you DON'T have the grades to get into medical school right now.

read that sentence again...you don't have the grades RIGHT NOW. medical school is not going anywhere, and you're just 19!!! you have TONS of time!!! do your best to graduate with the best gpa possible. take some time off-- i would recommend at least 2 years of working before you give another go at this. then enroll yourself in a post-bacc program (see ussdfiant for details), learn how to study and kick major a$$ in the program, kick a$$ on the mcat, and reapply when you're ready. do you really want to put all the time, effort, and money into applying when you're clearly not ready? if you think we're being harsh, wait til you get to an interview where people won't even try to offer you honest advice-- they're going to hone in on your academic record and grill you on it. i was grilled on mine, and my grades were better than yours (not that mine were great, but nothing lower than a C).

when i graduated from college i knew my grades weren't strong enough to get accepted into med school. so i took 2 years off, retook organic, took graduate-level bio classes, did clinical research full-time, did well on the mcat, had lots of medical volunteer work, and i applied when i was ready. your academic record isn't going to go anywhere, BUT if you can say "yeah, my grades from 6 years ago suck, BUT LOOK AT HOW FAR I'VE COME SINCE THEN", you'll have a much better chance.

in a nutshell, here's my advice. 1) re-think your time table and apply when you know you have a decent shot of getting in. 2) don't be so defensive-- remember, you were the one coming here asking for advice. be prepared to listen to all the advice you get.
 
Hey Silver
I got your PM and have read this thread.
I think you should listen to the advise given on sdn.
You have had a rough time at UOP. The first year was tough and that was understandable. However, having a second rough year may be a sign that you should take time off.
I realize you do not want to take time off of school and your parents would probably be very dissapointed. The next best alternative (and I have mentioned this before) is leaving UOP and attending another college. Start all over again---fresh!
Find out what went wrong at UOP and improve at a new school.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to start as a freshman at another university.
If you really want to become a doctor, you can be one. It will take a lot of hard work, dedication, and determination, but it can be done. Most likely, you will not get into med school in two years. However, there is nothing wrong with taking a few years off, getting a masters degree, working, doing a post bach.....
Someone above said there are lots of people that apply who are older than 22, 23, etc. I think the majority of applicants are older than 22 and have had work experience prior to entering medical school. Listen to these people. They know what they are talking about.
 
There is no way you are going to get into medical school with your current grades. If you really want to go to medical school, retake the classes you got D's and F's in and get A's and B's. I can't tell you how to do that, since different things work for different people. But that is what you have to do. I agree with the advice that a lot of other people have given you, that you should probably take a few years off from school. Things aren't going so well for you now. A few years away may allow you to gain the maturity and discipline to succeed later. Continuing in college right now, and adding more D's and F's to your record, is certainly not helping your cause. In addition to getting A's and B's in your pre-reqs when you re-take, you need to kick a** on the MCAT to help balance out the D's and F's.

You have a very long and hard road ahead of you. Good luck.
 
Originally posted by jennie 21
There is no way you are going to get into medical school with your current grades. If you really want to go to medical school, retake the classes you got D's and F's in and get A's and B's. I can't tell you how to do that, since different things work for different people. But that is what you have to do. I agree with the advice that a lot of other people have given you, that you should probably take a few years off from school. Things aren't going so well for you now. A few years away may allow you to gain the maturity and discipline to succeed later. Continuing in college right now, and adding more D's and F's to your record, is certainly not helping your cause. In addition to getting A's and B's in your pre-reqs when you re-take, you need to kick a** on the MCAT to help balance out the D's and F's.

You have a very long and hard road ahead of you. Good luck.
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Originally posted by jennie 21
There is no way you are going to get into medical school with your current grades. If you really want to go to medical school, retake the classes you got D's and F's in and get A's and B's. I can't tell you how to do that, since different things work for different people. But that is what you have to do. I agree with the advice that a lot of other people have given you, that you should probably take a few years off from school. Things aren't going so well for you now. A few years away may allow you to gain the maturity and discipline to succeed later. Continuing in college right now, and adding more D's and F's to your record, is certainly not helping your cause. In addition to getting A's and B's in your pre-reqs when you re-take, you need to kick a** on the MCAT to help balance out the D's and F's.

You have a very long and hard road ahead of you. Good luck.
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*sighs* well i am certainly NOT going to be a freshman again. no way! anyway, ill just work my a$$ off for teh next two years and wait a year and then apply. why waste money when you know you cant get in anywhere right? anyway, beagle, im taking human anatomy at delta...the jc next to uop to help lighten my course load. i dropped ochem during teh summer. waaay to fast and waay too hard. ill take that senior year. and then probably reseatch at stanfor dor something teh year afte ri graduate and then that year apply.
 
Guys, don?t let this thread die! This is hilarious!!😀
 
Silver_eyes, don't you know that you can do anything in life? As long as you work really hard and believe in yourself, you can do anything! Like for example yesterday I tried really hard and I started flying and having x-ray vision. And then today I really wanted to win the lottery and guess what I won the jackpot twice in two different states! Don't give up, you can do it!
 
OMG, SP that was hilarious! I'm ROTFLMAO here. :laugh:
 
You want to be a heart surgeon but you don't want to work. Hmmm... I suggest PE teacher. You're a teacher, but you don't have to read. "Dodge-ball for 40 years."

Or kick yourself in the a$$ and get to work, cause at this rate... i'd never let you lay a hand on my heart.
 
Originally posted by Street Philosopher
Silver_eyes, don't you know that you can do anything in life? As long as you work really hard and believe in yourself, you can do anything! Like for example yesterday I tried really hard and I started flying and having x-ray vision. And then today I really wanted to win the lottery and guess what I won the jackpot twice in two different states! Don't give up, you can do it!
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Originally posted by silver_eyes
*sighs* well i am certainly NOT going to be a freshman again. no way! anyway, ill just work my a$$ off for teh next two years and wait a year and then apply. why waste money when you know you cant get in anywhere right? anyway, beagle, im taking human anatomy at delta...the jc next to uop to help lighten my course load. i dropped ochem during teh summer. waaay to fast and waay too hard. ill take that senior year. and then probably reseatch at stanfor dor something teh year afte ri graduate and then that year apply.
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How is anatomy going for you at Delta?
I saw your electives in the first post. Try to take cell biology with richmond. He's pretty good with grades and no one gets a C unless they deserve it. It has a lab with it so it'll serve as a Bio w/ lab requirement. Who did you have Ochem with at SCU?
Was it Fedder? SCU also has Physics during the summers if you don't want to take it at UOP anymore. Goodluck with everything and remember you can make it to med school if you really want.
If you're going to take a year off to do research, it wouldn't be that bad of an idea to look into a masters program as well.
 
Originally posted by silver_eyes
THANK YOU! FOR ONCE SOMEBODY ISNT SPLITTING MY THROAT OPEN.

and for the millionth time...YES, i am doing this for MYSELF! GOD! If you want to pursue a career for someone else, while in reality you are dreading to pursue that career, you will never get far in acheiving that goal. If i didnt want to become a doctor for myself, then i dont think i would have gotten this far. despite all this that has happened to me, i am still looking forward to enter medschool in the next 2 or 3 years. momof2, obviously knows how to comfort people and will become an excellent physician. Everybody else on this form are just people who like to suck the life out of everybody lower than than, who are trying to become a doctor just like everybody else on this forum. i think it is time for you guys to give advice that people will actually listen to. do u think if you were telling your pateint to "turn the F*** over so i can give you a shot," that he/she will actually do that if you said it that way?? I think not.
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and all I hear is:

blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah

where do you go when you aren't sucking energy? Do you just turn up after every winter/summer term? Or are you really a vetran SDNer who relishes in bringing back the evil villian silvereyes just to stir up the boards a little?

We will never know... stay tuned for more bullsh*t and whining, right here on the pre-allo network.
 
Originally posted by manicmaven
http://www.studentdoctor.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54942&highlight=silvereyes

Don't bother responding to this thread. It's been done over 250 times a few months back.
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Thank you for posting the link. It really made me laugh!🙂 I needed that.

Silver eyes...I think you need to take responsibility for your poor academic record. You point the finger at everyone else except for yourself...you're the problem and not the teachers.

Everyone is giving you good advice: take some years off, go into a different field of medicine not MD....

oh yeah...and most importantly, buy a mirror!

(NOT to be mean, but you need to get a good look at yourself and shape up. No one likes a bitcher and moaner.)
 
So in 9th grade I'm on the football team with this cool kid -- a little odd, but seems ok.

His dad was a respected cardiologist.

On the evening news I find out the "cardiologist" paid $300,000 to get a fake MD. He had a lot of people that died... He also ended up in penitentiary... the kid kinda went zonko after that.

Well, silver, you can always go to the St. George and get your md...don't know about residency tho.
 
You should apply to pharmacy school...they accept just about everyone who applies. But you do have to pass a grocery bagging test to get a job.







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Originally posted by indo
You should apply to pharmacy school...they accept just about everyone who applies. But you do have to pass a grocery bagging test to get a job.







incoming.
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Ummm... try chiropractic school. My friend's sister couldn't get into pharm school and her grades were much better than silver's.
 
Silver eyes,

Just go to your premed advisor, or someone who really cares about you getting into medschool like a mentor or a professor. Forget all other advice.
 
Dear Silver Eyes,

First, try to figure out why you got the grades you did in the science classes. Is it because you didn't study? Do you have a learning disability and have trouble finishing tests on time or have test anxiety? Maybe go to academic services place at your school to see about that. Do you like the subjects you were taking? Sometimes people don't like what they are studying and so don't study it at all. I think in your science courses, you can definitely pull at least a B- in those classes, if you read the texts, do a bunch of practice problems, let professors know of any accomodations or problems you may have, maybe even tape record lectures, just work at the class and don't take a whole bunch of science classes at the same time because you can get burned out and sick of seeing science all the time. Space out the science classes- take it slow. I agree with somebody's previous advice about switching your major from bio. I am good at science and I didn't even major in bio, why? Because I knew the professors in the dept. don't like premeds and try to make the classes so hard and set the mean at a B/B- that I said, screw that, I'm going to major in something else and I did. So forget bio. I did, even though I like the subject. Major in something that is easier- like communications and then just take required classes. A word on that: professors know that a lot of the intro science classes are packed with premeds and so try to weed them out. Try to avoid the intro classes and take other science classes tha fulfill the requirements. You don't have to take the intros to fulfill them you can take other classes, sometimes upper-level classes which many times are smaller and grade easier because the people in those classes will have already been weeded out. Basically getting into med school is a game. Don't let it get to you
but instead get back at it. Say I am not going to get discouraged and give up but I am going to play this game smart!!! People say go to the pre-med advisor but sometimes the pre-med advisor does not know everything and they will tell students to take the intro classes and all that or say crap like maybe you should look at another career. So take what they say with a grain of salt. In conclusion, focus on why you did bad in those science classes and be honest with yourself about that because you can't just take classes over again if you don't know why you did bad in them the first time around AND what you can do about it to get a much better grade the second time around - that is crucial you need to focus on what you can do to get a better grade the second time.

Feel free to PM if you have any more questions.
 
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