Diseases And Death!!

[sweetymed88]

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HI I WANTED TO KNOW when a person is infected with a disease and they die. does the disease die out also? or does it continue...if so how long does it live?

 

[mshheaddoc]

If the cells die most "diseases" probably won't be able to live but every disease is a little different depending on the pathogen (bacterial, virus - how hardy is the, like living on fomites etc.) Is there a reason you are asking this?

 

[Eric Lindros]

HI I WANTED TO KNOW when a person is infected with a disease and they die. does the disease die out also? or does it continue...if so how long does it live?

Depends what type of disease it is, I would think.

 

[Genetics]

As others in the thread have said, it depends on the disease and the pathogen (virus, bacteria). In all cases, a virus needs a host to live. Thus, when a person dies from a virus (i.e., HIV) I assume that the virus dies as well...based on my knowledge and not doing a literature search. For bacteria I'm sure there are some cases where a disease can still be present for a short period, but not long period.

HI I WANTED TO KNOW when a person is infected with a disease and they die. does the disease die out also? or does it continue...if so how long does it live?

 

[Timmythemic22]

HI I WANTED TO KNOW when a person is infected with a disease and they die. does the disease die out also? or does it continue...if so how long does it live?

There are easier ways to treat your herpes outbreak than offing yourself. Remember, life is beautiful!!!

 

[SamaraMorgan]

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[Rocher]

Although I can't guarantee the accuracy of this, I assume that as long as the bacteria have a viable environment (e.g., temperature within the range of the organism's livable conditions, food, etc.) the bacteria would continue to live until it's food source is used up. If you look at a body decomposing, it's really just bacteria (maybe even the bacteria that caused the death) eating away at a free food source. As for viruses, I'm not sure.

 

[sweetymed88]

WELL IM BASICALLY ASKING BECAUSE IM A PREMED STUDENT FRESHMAN AND IM JUST INTRESTED srry if i sound dumb lol

 

[foofish]

Most continue for a short period of time, some up to 3 days or longer. It all depends on the disease.

History-major moment here: in the middle ages there was a military tactic of catapulting plague-infested corpses over castle/city walls to infect the people inside under siege. Ah, the trebuchet.

 

[45408]

God help the Class of 2014.

 

[Wackie]

God help the Class of 2014.

Get out of my head, man.

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

History-major moment here: in the middle ages there was a military tactic of catapulting plague-infested corpses over castle/city walls to infect the people inside under siege. Ah, the trebuchet.

Yeah, the Mongols basically invented biological warfare doing this.

 

[Law2Doc]

Most continue for a short period of time, some up to 3 days or longer. It all depends on the disease. There are postmortem infection control guidelines for autopsies (e.g. wearing gloves) to protect from HIV, Hep, etc. Bacteria can live a long time as well, like salmonella on chicken. Mmm chicken.

Also no one really knows how long things like prions (eg "mad cow") can remain infectious, even after extreme conditions (cooking, formaldehyde etc). Wear gloves when handling something that was formerly diseased regardless of when it died.

 

[TMP-SMX]

Viruses normally "die" very quickly when the conditions change (such as death of the host).

Bacteria in the enterobacteriaceae group can cause massive common source epidemics from contamination of food and water outside of a host. (Cholera, our favorite E. coli, and the Y. pestis the bubonic plague can all be grouped somewhat here).

Many bacteria such as the clostridium and bacillus spore formers can survive in a "frozen" state as a spore for millenia. Many spores have been found in the tombs of Egypt.

I'm sure they can stick around for much longer than that. Bacteria are everywhere in or outside of a host. Bacteria are not just pathogens.

 

[Gut Shot]

srry if i sound dumb lol

It would help your case if you drop the caps and IMspeak. You may resume writing in 98% annoying acronyms and abbreviations when you're writing surgery progress notes.

 

[BellyDancingDoc]

It would help your case if you drop the caps and IMspeak. You may resume writing in 98% annoying acronyms and abbreviations when you're writing surgery progress notes.

Agreed. Sweetymed, using all of those abbreviations, misspellings, and strange capitalizations makes you sound like you are about 12 years old. You may receive better quality replies on this board if you would be kind enough to use standard English. I realize that you're relatively new here, but surely you must have noticed that most of the other posters do not write the way that you do.

This also applies to the announcement under your avatar, "OnEdAyImGoNa B aSuRgEoN." Truth be told, there's no way I would allow someone who writes the way you do to ever cut me open!

 

[Tired]

All these posts and no one wants to comment on what constitutes "alive"?

I forget, are viruses considered to be "alive"? There's got to be an undergrad bio major out there somewhere who remembers this.

I know prions are not "alive", as they are basically misfolded proteins.

 

[AppleseedCast]

All these posts and no one wants to comment on what constitutes "alive"?

I forget, are viruses considered to be "alive"? There's got to be an undergrad bio major out there somewhere who remembers this.

I know prions are not "alive", as they are basically misfolded proteins.

misfolded proteins which induce the misfolding of other nearby proteins

 

[Schaden Freud]

I don't think viruses are considered alive because they can't carry out metabolism independent of their host.

All these posts and no one wants to comment on what constitutes "alive"?

I forget, are viruses considered to be "alive"? There's got to be an undergrad bio major out there somewhere who remembers this.

I know prions are not "alive", as they are basically misfolded proteins.

 

[Genetics]

This is not the place to have a discussion about if a virus is alive or not. Most people say that a virus is not alive because it can't reproduce or metabolize outside of the host.

All these posts and no one wants to comment on what constitutes "alive"?

I forget, are viruses considered to be "alive"? There's got to be an undergrad bio major out there somewhere who remembers this.

I know prions are not "alive", as they are basically misfolded proteins.

 

[Haemulon]

The OP has a fever, but the only prescription is more cowbell!

 

[epigastric]

The OP has a fever, but the only prescription is more cowbell!

More cowbell is always the only prescription.

 

[45408]

The OP has a fever, but the only prescription is more blunt objects to the head

fixed for ya. she's been watching too much nip/tuck, I think. i'M gOnE 2 bE A pLaStIc SuRgEoN, z0mG!!!!!!!!11

 

[DoctorMom78]

All these posts and no one wants to comment on what constitutes "alive"?

I forget, are viruses considered to be "alive"? There's got to be an undergrad bio major out there somewhere who remembers this.

I know prions are not "alive", as they are basically misfolded proteins.

It is a matter of debate whether viruses are alive or not. There is no right or wrong answer. It depends on who you ask.

As for how long pathogens live after death of the host, it really depends on the individual pathogen and the environmental conditions. For instance, in an animal that died from rabies the virus may remain viable for a number of days in cold weather conditions or hours in the hot summer sun. The rabies virus is also very dependent on moisture. Prions "live" indefinitely and are almost impossible to destroy as they are resistant to heat from normal cooking conditions, many denaturing agents and proteases, and most chemicals. Samples of prions have been found to remain viable years after they were taken. So, there is no simple way to answer this question because there is no one right answer. Sorry!

 

[sweetymed88]

well first and foremost id like to thank the people who answered my questions without any smart remarks! also i assure you all that i can speak and write perfect english. but im not really intrested in what you may think. next time just answer the questions thankyou

 

[Tired]

also i assure you all that i can speak and write perfect english. but im not really intrested in what you may think. next time just answer the questions thankyou

I can assure you that, next time you ask a question, very few people will be willing to help you out. The people who respond to your posts do so out of courtesy, not because they have to.

It's just like life: Be a Tool = Get no Help

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

well first and foremost id like to thank the people who answered my questions without any smart remarks! also i assure you all that i can speak and write perfect english. but im not really intrested in what you may think. next time just answer the questions thankyou

If you're not interested in what we think, why are you asking us questions? The lack of correct spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation, combined with the dumb question, leads people to believe that you are a *****. But despite that, you got some good responses. Not sure why you feel it necessary to cop an attitude, though. Using proper writing etiquette is a sign of respect and professionalism, and the suggestion to do so was friendly advice. I'm not going to waste my time (i.e. my self-imposed 15 minute break between listening to pharmacology lectures) trying to read leetspeak or helping someone who's too lazy to move their pinky over to the shift button from time to time.

 

[DoctorMom78]

If you're not interested in what we think, why are you asking us questions? The lack of correct spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation, combined with the dumb question, leads people to believe that you are a *****. But despite that, you got some good responses. Not sure why you feel it necessary to cop an attitude, though. Using proper writing etiquette is a sign of respect and professionalism, and the suggestion to do so was friendly advice. I'm not going to waste my time (i.e. my self-imposed 15 minute break between listening to pharmacology lectures) trying to read leetspeak or helping someone who's too lazy to move their pinky over to the shift button from time to time.

LOL! That icon does look like a cervix!!!

 

[AggieJohn]

HI I WANTED TO KNOW when a person is infected with a disease and they die. does the disease die out also? or does it continue...if so how long does it live?

... im not really intrested in what you may think....

 

[DropkickMurphy]

If you're not interested in what we think, why are you asking us questions? The lack of correct spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation, combined with the dumb question, leads people to believe that you are a *****. But despite that, you got some good responses. Not sure why you feel it necessary to cop an attitude, though. Using proper writing etiquette is a sign of respect and professionalism, and the suggestion to do so was friendly advice. I'm not going to waste my time (i.e. my self-imposed 15 minute break between listening to pharmacology lectures) trying to read leetspeak or helping someone who's too lazy to move their pinky over to the shift button from time to time.

Damn....beat me to it.....