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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - DO' started by mrobicha, Feb 26, 2010.
^ I think you're preaching to the choir here.
Yup ... this was the point I was trying to convey as well:
DO Resident: ' I've experienced it first hand - don't sweat it.'
pre-med: 'I've shadowed over 2 physicians for a total of 8 hours, volunteered in an ER for 3 weeks, AND my 2nd cousin is a nurse who told me she once worked with a doctor who had a friend who thought DOs were inferior. Ergo, DO bias exists.'
(palm to face)
Now I don't want to speak for everyone, but I do feel comfortable saying ...
If DO> carrib MD, and if people are saying MD are more superior, we will than start asking which MD schools you went.
I feel like your user name should be mine ...
Hahaha, like everything in life ... generalizations never work. There are "pre-meds" who purposely tell you the wrong things to study in O-Chem in a wild attempt to boost their own grade and argue with residents, and then there are normal, cool people who just happen to be pre-medical students. You fall into the second category ... so no harm no foul
So how about this...
Not at about DO discrimination, but here goes...
Today we had a patient back out of open heart surgery because our only heart surgeon is Jamaican. Her words, "I just don't know if I want one of those types doing my operation." I explained that he trained at Mayo and Case Western for residency and fellowship and she was still unconvinced. Three weeks ago I was asked by another patient if he had ever worked the cane fields because his hands were knobby looking.
I do not understand the nature of discrimination of DO's, if pre-meds actually want to go into medicine, shouldn't they look past differences in the same way they should toward their future patients...
UGH ... Jesus.
I have no idea what you just said-- none whatsoever. I was trying to follow the logic... but I can't even follow the syntax. Maybe you could restate this in other terms?
Jamaicans and DOs, that's like apples to apples right?
Your posts are like those pictures where if you stare at them long enough from a distance, you suddenly see a spaceship...except I haven't seen it yet.
That is just ridiculous, but why did you state that in this thread?
^Perhaps the best picture on sdn
Spaceship??? I saw a dinosaur. Damn! I did it wrong.
There will always be "he couldn't get into MD school" behind peoples head. at least for those who are informed. I would say that most DOs are aware of that as well. As far as I know, I dont think there is any discrimination. You are just as compatible as a real MD.
Now, people will value you, respect you, and like you because you are great physician,and have a loving nature and nice personality. And for that, what your badge says wont matter. and people will value that 100 times more than whether your MD or DO.
it doesn't stop there, exchange o-chem for whatever rotation (or even pre clinical yrs) you're doing. I've seen quite a bit of this viciousness this year while on audition rotations. it's just wrong......don't be that guy
I only posted this because people always think that being a DO will lead to some kind of discrimination. It won't any more than any other kind of difference. People are people and some will discriminate. Being a physician means you will work with and treat many people with all kinds of beliefs and background and discrimination of one kind or another is something that all of us will most likely face.
It's best to be a good-looking, middle-aged, white male MD to prevent all possible discrimination.
I mean if I got discriminated against I'd just melt.
My vote for the worst response in the thread
Dang it.. I was hoping I just had to get the sex change, but now I gotta do more plastic surgery to change my apparent ethnicity and age as well?
If Michael Jackson did it, so can you.
This thread is missing the bigger picture. Which is more important, janitor school v custodian school?
Why not do both? Have dual degrees and the freedom to work anywhere you want. I guess it's the equivalent of having an MD PhD. Obviously don't worry about the debt from doing both schools. Because you will ultimately end up making more than most doctors anyways so you will live a good life.
Dual Janitor degrees? We got to give them a cool name.
Bachelors of Science in Cleanliness Operations (Janitor)
Bachelor's of Science in Mop Head Mangement
Bachelor's of Artistic Interpreted Sciences in Cleanliness Technology with a minor in Mop Head Management.
Masters in Mop Head Management
PhD in Psychology of Cleanliness Operations
Of course we cannot forget the MD for Custodians. I can see it NerdyAndrea MDCust stands for Mop Driven Custodian.
NerdyAndrea DOJ Daily Operations Janitor.
There now....I am not seeing a difference between MD and DO
Oh, and of course any degree can be combined, I think it's the more letters after your name the better.
I had entirely too much fun after recoding some biostatistics data
I'm MD, but my two cents are that once you reach residency (and beyond) you will find few people who care about anything but your performance.
I have, however, seen DO applicants to the allopathic match get treated inequitably. Depending on the idiosyncrasies of the programs they apply to, they may be less likely to get an interview, and/or less likely to be ranked highly than their US-MD counterparts. I doubt this is a systemic issue, but if you're asking about any kind of discrimination, there you go.
Not inherently, but there does seem to be greater variation in educational quality. If you do end up in DO school you should work very hard to maximize the value of your M3/M4 clerkships.
most realistic answer on this thread
I've heard this response before from this guy....
how interesting, the doctors I work with say the same thing...
I was just too afraid to post... The whole face palm pics, y'know?
But it could be regional as well. I work in a Cali hospital.
BTW Parts...your avatar...the only man I'm jealous of...one with a chainsaw for a hand. Very sex.
ACGME programs showing a bias isn't anything new, shocking - or to me, unfair. I guess I personally don't even register it as "discrimination" in my brain. Especially when it's so variable and there are so many factors to consider. However, call me naive, and obviously I haven't gone through this yet, but I struggle to complain about ACGME discrimination when AOA residencies are completely closed to MD students and ACGME spots being available to DO students essentially being the only reason DO schools can stay in business right now (ie NOT enough AOA spots for all graduating students).
As long as there's a class on alternative mop repair methods.
Original janitor v DO v custodian thread
Well, opening up spots cost money. Are AOA residency spots also funded by Medicare? If not, then opening up AOA spots that might go unfilled is a losing business proposition for hospitals.
I was actually wondering the other day if they were funded by medicare ... I do not believe so.
They are funded by medicare. There are a few spots out there that are either privately funded or unfunded, but they are in the vast minority.
I think this will give you some insights..
Hospitals tends to care more about your reputation as a worker than MD vs. DO.
I did one time witness a surgery director (administrator) mockingly cast aside a surgeon’s opinion because, “Well, you’re a D.O., sooooo......... Hahahaha!”
At the time I had very little education on the topic and I never really payed attention.
It has been made known that Ivy transplants typically get their way, for whatever reason. (Do patients care where their doctors trained? Do they know? I doubt it.)
8 year old necrobump by a guy with 4 posts? Interesting
Jesus, what is with the necroposting lately?