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Do DO's have a harder time getting a job than MD's? If I decide to go to DO school and apply for an MD residency, does DO school prepare you well enough to take the USMLE?
Do DO's have a harder time getting a job than MD's?
does DO school prepare you well enough to take the USMLE?
Just learn to use the search function because all of these (and many more) have been asked a hundred times.Sorry guys, This is my first day on here lol! Was this a bad question to ask? I don't want to offend anyone because that was not my intent.
This thread should answer all your questions:Do DO's have a harder time getting a job than MD's? If I decide to go to DO school and apply for an MD residency, does DO school prepare you well enough to take the USMLE?
I was a DO, then I decided to become doctor. I'm top of my class at the Naturopathic College of Natural Medicine and can rest assured of getting a top residency in neurocardiac hydrotherapy. I can't wait to make medicare bank aligning people's chakras. Life goal: get to the top of the medicare reimbursement database.
But DO is a doctor. Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine.
If you don't mind, what made you switch from osteopathic medicine to naturopathy?
Not sure if serious or following the joke.But DO is a doctor. Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine.
If you don't mind, what made you switch from osteopathic medicine to naturopathy?
But DO is a doctor. Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine.
If you don't mind, what made you switch from osteopathic medicine to naturopathy?
Not sure if serious or following the joke.
Not sure if serious or following the joke.
Wow we posted the same thing at the same time...
So I'm assuming no one here thinks that DOs are doctors
Most DOs are employed, but only 10-20% find work as physicians. Most are bartenders, secretaries, baristas, etc.
Don't forget that a great many are employed by car dealerships and trucking companies.
It's true that most DOs leave medicine after they finish their residencies.
Well everyone on here thinks that DO's aren't real doctors, which is completely false! DO=MDWhat??!?? ..please tell me your joking..
Well everyone on here thinks that DO's aren't real doctors, which is completely false! DO=MD
Nobody on the pre-DO forum thinks that. People on here tend to deal with this topic with sarcasm and humor because this topic is over-rated. You will find some ignorant folks around SDN who think that DOs aren't real doctors, but seriously those people just have to get over it. Anyways, I'm glad that you agree that DO=MD but I think you are preaching to the wrong choir.
Naw man. I know of several DOs that work at Mercy.Mercy!!
Most DOs are employed, but only 10-20% find work as physicians. Most are bartenders, secretaries, baristas, etc.
Do DO's have a harder time getting a job than MD's? If I decide to go to DO school and apply for an MD residency, does DO school prepare you well enough to take the USMLE?
Don't underestimate the power of entitlement.In my (admittedly limited) experience, the only people I've met that have an issue with DO tend to be people who are are not terribly competitive for med school to begin with. I'm not exactly sure of why this is, but I always found it odd that they would eschew a path to fulfilling a major life goal because of the letters behind their name. Then again, they also seemed to not want to settle for anything less than being a superstar [insert highly competitive residency here].
Don't underestimate the power of entitlement.
The funny thing is that you cannot get a DO degree from DeVry, but you can get an MD degree from a DeVry school.
That's outrageous!Yep, I got my diploma out of a cereal box. Hmmm And I make $5/hr flipping burgers at McDonald's.
The funny thing is that you cannot get a DO degree from DeVry, but you can get an MD degree from a DeVry school.
No statement has ever been more true.Do you want to know the only place in the world where DO discrimination exists? Amongst ignorant pre-meds.
Do you want to know the only place in the world where DO discrimination exists? Amongst ignorant pre-meds.
Do you really think that's true though? I've had more than one older MD tell me not to go DO because the education isn't on par with MD. And why do you think most "top tier" residency programs are absent DOs? I'm not saying there is any validity to the discrimination, I'm starting DO school this year, but don't pretend it doesn't exist.
Do you really think that's true though? I've had more than one older MD tell me not to go DO because the education isn't on par with MD. And why do you think most "top tier" residency programs are absent DOs? I'm not saying there is any validity to the discrimination, I'm starting DO school this year, but don't pretend it doesn't exist.
My dad is a MD that has been in practice with 30 years. He respects them a lot. He personally feels that DOs make amazing doctors especially in specialties such as cardiology. He said initials or the med schools they went to don't prove anything, the ability of the doctor to communicate and treat their patients correctly is 100x more important.
Yeah, this is unfortunate. The one MD I shadowed (pediatric dermatologist) told me to avoid DO at all cost (this coming even after I made it clear that dermatology is not an interest of mine). He was super disappointed when I told him I was going DO... which, I don't know... made me feel both confused and insulted, since I can't help but feel like he knows what he's talking about. It also doesn't help that a huge part of my other medical experience is at big Boston hospitals where everyone is a MD/PhD. I should have spent more time at my childhood DO hospital!The overwhelming majority of MDs I've talked to view DO as completely equivalent to MD. But that doesn't change the fact that there are some that don't.
Keywords bolded...Do you really think that's true though? I've had more than one older MD tell me not to go DO because the education isn't on par with MD. And why do you think most "top tier" residency programs are absent DOs? I'm not saying there is any validity to the discrimination, I'm starting DO school this year, but don't pretend it doesn't exist.
Keywords bolded...
ONE (being not many out there)
OLDER (aka the past not the future)
MD (obviously biased towards his own training and most likely completely ignorant to DO training other than what his other older MD buddies talk about)
Top tier residency programs are absent of DOs simply because they say they can. There is no legitimate reason backed by research that would show that DO graduates would not perform as well in those environments. There is an argument for lack of exposure to traditional didactic/rounds training in DO clerkships which I could see as a reason for any discrimination. It is simply that the top residencies are run by people who are described as the bolded statement above.
I could absolutely agree with that then. I would agree that based upon the statistics and the amount of residencies in specialty areas that have been provided by the AOA, it is better to go MD. Obviously more opportunity for different specialties > less opportunity for range of specialties.The one older MD i referred to was just the one who outright said the education isn't equal. I've had several young MDs tell me not to go DO because it's harder to match specialties. (I work in a hostpial and am constantly talking to doctors--MD and DO--about their thoughts on the matter.
Again, I'm not saying qualified DOs don't deserve to gain top teir residency positions, or that they wouldn't perform well in them. But you said it yourself... some top teir residencies are absent of DOs "just because they can", which means that all else equal, they will opt for MD over DO.