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DO hospital vs. "regular" hospital?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - DO' started by danny, Dec 7, 1998.

  1. danny

    danny Member 10+ Year Member

    Dec 3, 1998
    Selden, New York USA
    Besides the philosophy of the hospitals in question, are there many differences. Do regular hospitals look down on DO students in rotation or residency? Are there any hidden disadvantages to being a DO student in regular hospital (as opposed to being an MD student). I don't see a reason for any discrepencies but the real world isn't always as clear-cut. Thanks.
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  3. Deb

    Deb Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 24, 1998

    The only problem you should have in an allopathic hospital is that you
    won't be allowed to use any OMT on patients (unless you have a DO
    attending which, although uncommon, does happen). The reason is that
    since MD's aren't trained in this area they can't supervise you and
    patients might be harmed as a result. Also, rest assured that you will
    be treated with as much respect, or as little, as you deserve. You
    will be judged on your technical skills, patient care, and interactions
    with staff. We've all heard the "rumors" about how DO's are treated and
    I'm sure that in the past they were treated badly, but those days are over.
    I've had nothing but positive feedback from the MD's I've spoken with.
    They don't care what initials come after your name, they care about what
    kind of physician you are.

  4. prefontaine

    prefontaine Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 27, 1998
    Northern Liberties
    Contrary to Deb's post, I have found MD's to be MORE open to OMT than DO attendings. In general, attendings do not know if you are a DO or MD student and rarely care.
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2009
  5. danny

    danny Member 10+ Year Member

    Dec 3, 1998
    Selden, New York USA
    Is it legal for a DO student trained in OMT to perform this treatment on a patient under a MD attending if the student is either on rotations, internship or residency?
  6. drusso

    drusso Physician Moderator Emeritus Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

    Nov 21, 1998
    Over the rainbow
    While the possibly is vanishingly small, if an adverse event followed secondary to OMT, and the patient sued, then the lawyers would have a heyday with the fact that a DO student performed OMT on an inpatient service and was not properly supervised.

    OMT is considered a medical intervention. It has its own CPT codes and gets reimbursed by third-party payors.

    Lawyers: Gotta love'em.


    [This message has been edited by drusso (edited 12-10-98).]
  7. StillBorn

    StillBorn Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 23, 1998
    Here is another interesting take on the OMT issue. I (and other classmates) have actually been asked to perform OMT on my preceptor (an MD).
  8. Lee

    Lee Sleestack Staff Member Administrator 10+ Year Member

    Dec 31, 1999
    This is an interesting thread.

    The only physicians that haved asked me to perform OMT on a patient are MDs!

    In-fact, I have never seen a DO perform manipulation in a hospital setting. I think that's because: 1. hospital beds are miserable for manipulation 2. It's time consuming 3. Lack of training in the manipulative treatment of hospitalized patients, and 4. Most DOs probably don't keep-up their OMT skills.
  9. Hskermdic

    Hskermdic Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 17, 1998
    Please expand more on the comment that most DOs not keeping up their OMT skills.

  10. Lee

    Lee Sleestack Staff Member Administrator 10+ Year Member

    Dec 31, 1999
    Well, like any skill, a person needs to perform it on a regular basis to keep proficient (sp?). A DO should probably do manipulation on a daily basis if they expect to keep up their skills.

    And if you want to be really good at manipulation, you probably should do it on most of your patients. Those physicians that have specialized in manipulation have amazing talent, which was honed over thousands of patients.

  11. Dreamstoo

    Dreamstoo 5+ Year Member

    Dec 13, 2011
    Someone is going on a trolling rampage!
  12. Dreamstoo

    Dreamstoo 5+ Year Member

    Dec 13, 2011
    Not at all. I am happy with my choice of going pre-DO. You just seem to have too much time on your hand to go to posts that were uploaded 15-16 years.
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  13. Chillywilly

    Chillywilly 2+ Year Member

    May 26, 2013
    Guys guys guys. It doesn't matter if you're DO or MD. MDs, your future bosses could end up being a DO so have some respect.

    Also, if you want the whole ego trip, just project those feelings of superiority on nurses and PAs ;)
  14. costales

    costales 2+ Year Member

    Jul 25, 2011
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  15. TXKnight

    TXKnight Better Known as TXK 7+ Year Member

    Oct 21, 2010
    Aeternal Vernis
    BTW, do you think the poster "Lee" in the original old posts above is the founder of SDN?
  16. DrEnderW

    DrEnderW 5+ Year Member

    Dec 5, 2012
    Rishi Maze
    Always guessed that.
  17. kaidou1412

    kaidou1412 2+ Year Member

    Mar 4, 2012
    Durham, North Carolina
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  18. Carl Seitan

    Carl Seitan Best poster ever 2+ Year Member

    Feb 25, 2013
    I think the difference between a "DO hospital" and regular one will be most noticeable in ED and trauma. At DO hospitals, it's common practice to perform cranial on GSW and broken bones to see if adjusting the primary respiration of the CSF will heal the injury.

    Hope that helps.
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  19. touchpause13

    touchpause13 nolite te bastardes carborundorum 5+ Year Member

    Jun 25, 2012
    My dad actually got treated with OMM at an urgent care when he was having horrible back pain. Felt completely fine afterwards. Also is now convinced it's magic lol
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