Do I even have a chance of getting accepted into med school?

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Hi everyone! I’ve always wanted to become a doctor, but after scrolling through r/premed and seeing application stats, reality hit me hard and now I’m extremely worried of not getting accepted.

1. I have low gpa stats. My cGPA is 3.36 and my sGPA is 3.13.

I do have an upwards trend, but that was only after completing my post bacc and doing my masters. Specifically, my undergrad gpa was a 3.216, with my bio major being a 2.41 and my psych major being a 3.67. I had to withdraw classes multiple times, about 6 Ws, in my undergrad years. I experienced imminent family death, developed a chronic illness and had to be hospitalized for weeks at a time, and had to take over the family responsibility and start working full time as a sole breadwinner. I know a lot of people work full time in college, yet still do amazing, so I always feel so ashamed of withdrawing. This has always been a black spot for me and this is where my worries begin from.
Currently, I’m doing a masters in public health and my gpa is a 3.55. I’m graduating next semester with a projected gpa of 3.64-3.71. The first two semesters I had some Bs, but my previous and current semester have been all As now. As for my post bacc, I registered for an accelerated, DIY program and began in January. I took only 6 classes (21 credits) and it’s ending this week. I should complete it with a 4.0 GPA. I haven’t decided if I want to take 9 more credits making it a total of 30 credits at 4.0.

2. I have t taken the MCAT yet and am scheduled for later this month. Based off of my FLs, I should be getting ~510.

3. I’m from NY. I really wanted to remain in NY but is that impossible to do now?

4. South Asian

5. I tried making it up by my clinical experience, which is roughly 5800 hours. For my Clinical Experience (paid), I was a Medical Assistant- 1280 hours, Medical Scribe- 1640 hours, Covid 19 Tester - 530 hours, Clinical research coordinator - 2050 hours, (no publication/ presentation yet), medical research assistant- 150 hours, and mental health intern -150 hours.

For my Clinical Experience (Volunteer), I worked as an Emergency Room Health scholar- 250 hours, Hospital Oncology Department Volunteer- 120 hours and Senior Citizens Mental Health Assistant- 50 hours.

6. My main research experience was being a research coordinator. I’ve worked with data analysis, visualization, and entry, outreach, translation and study set up. While it’s not science based, it really gave me exposure to how undermined marginalized communities are, especially south asian communities, despite there being a substantial amount of south asian doctors. I’ve witnessed first hand how many patients suffer from chronic conditions yet are blatantly dismissed by their healthcare providers due to systemic exclusions. A huge reason I want to become a doctor is community engagement, specifically, curating culturally tailored health education and care.

For lab research, in my undergraduate years, I’ve worked with my psychology professor for a semester doing brain stimulation studies. The study tested how memory is affected when different stimuli are applied and how spatial recalling works when the stimuli are applied again. I helped set up the study and worked with the participants, monitoring them during their memory tests. Aside from that, I don’t have any other research experience. I applied to a biomedical lab position, so hopefully I’ll see with that.

7. I’ve shadowed in the emergency department under the trauma team for 25 hours, pulmonologist 40 hours, and cardiology 35 hours.

8. As for my non-clinical experience, I volunteered at Muslim Youth Research Project- 80 hours, Animal shelter- 120 hours, food pantry distributor - 120 hours, Debate Judge- 40 Hours

9. For leadership, I was vice president for a blood donation club called Giving Life, psych tutor at my undergrad learning center, and secretary for my schools SGP Club. As for extracurricular activities, I worked as a middle school science tutor teaching 8 students. I’ve joined my local parks running club and ran a for charity marathon.

10. I’m not really sure what to say. I was a recipient of the Zickler foundation scholarship, got deans list 3x and a recipient of the PRF scholarship. I don’t have many awards or anything.

Do I need anything else to make up for my low gpa stats? I’m really worried for how to overcome this. I’ve seen a lot of people saying meds school prioritize stats and would only consider clinical experience if there’s a publication/presentation, but I don’t have any. A reason my gpa is low is because for the first year of covid I decided to do all credit, which, unfortunately, was worth about 24 credits in I received an A from. That mistake cost me big.

Should I continue my post bacc with more science classes to raise it a bit? It can only raise to a 3.16 I’m also planning on retaking my MCAT in September, but is that a reasonable thing to do? Would any med schools accept me? I don’t know which direction to start in, which schools I should apply to and by when. I want to apply by october 15, but I’m not sure. I’m fine with any school as long as I have a chance.
 
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Agree a full WAMC profile would be helpful. But bottom line, there is no "making up" for low stats with ECs--they are both important, but for different reasons. GPA is important to show that you can handle the academic rigor of medical school, MCAT is important to show you will pass your licensing exams, and ECs are important to prove you know what you're getting yourself into. No amount of ECs will demonstrate that you will be able to handle the rigor of med school. Frankly, your list of ECs is so extensive that it makes me worry that you have an issue with time management and were unable to prioritize your academics over ECs appropriately, and I suspect that reviewers would have a similar concern.

You also don't get any allowance for personal issues, because real life doesn't magically stop during medical school--you need to either demonstrate that you can succeed in spite of challenges, or demonstrate a new track record of success to prove that you have officially moved past the issues that hindered you previously. They would be doing you no favors to let you into medical school only for you to subsequently fail out because you continue struggling outside of school.

Bottom line, I think you're going to need an SMP. Your DIY post bacc was an encouraging start at 21 hours, but getting a 3.4 in an MPH sort of tarnishes that, especially when most people do extremely well (4.0) in an MPH. Again, makes me worry that you may not be managing your time well. An SMP is your best bet to prove once and for all that you can succeed in an academically rigorous curriculum, but if you choose to embark on that path I strongly recommend that you fully commit to it and stop any other ECs so that you can focus on academics.
 
Agree a full WAMC profile would be helpful. But bottom line, there is no "making up" for low stats with ECs--they are both important, but for different reasons. GPA is important to show that you can handle the academic rigor of medical school, MCAT is important to show you will pass your licensing exams, and ECs are important to prove you know what you're getting yourself into. No amount of ECs will demonstrate that you will be able to handle the rigor of med school. Frankly, your list of ECs is so extensive that it makes me worry that you have an issue with time management and were unable to prioritize your academics over ECs appropriately, and I suspect that reviewers would have a similar concern.

You also don't get any allowance for personal issues, because real life doesn't magically stop during medical school--you need to either demonstrate that you can succeed in spite of challenges, or demonstrate a new track record of success to prove that you have officially moved past the issues that hindered you previously. They would be doing you no favors to let you into medical school only for you to subsequently fail out because you continue struggling outside of school.

Bottom line, I think you're going to need an SMP. Your DIY post bacc was an encouraging start at 21 hours, but getting a 3.4 in an MPH sort of tarnishes that, especially when most people do extremely well (4.0) in an MPH. Again, makes me worry that you may not be managing your time well. An SMP is your best bet to prove once and for all that you can succeed in an academically rigorous curriculum, but if you choose to embark on that path I strongly recommend that you fully commit to it and stop any other ECs so that you can focus on academics.
Hi, thank you so much. I won’t be doing any other EC from now on and this helped me decide to continue my post bacc. I can take 9 more credits for my post bacc, and will be looking at that option now. I’m confident I’ll upkeep the 4.0. As for my masters, I have the option of continuing it under a different concentration, which would give me about 6-12 more credits. Should I continue with my masters and post bacc? My masters would fall under next semester and I can take the classes in the summer for the post bacc but would that affect my application for this cycle?
 
Hi, thank you so much. I won’t be doing any other EC from now on and this helped me decide to continue my post bacc. I can take 9 more credits for my post bacc, and will be looking at that option now. I’m confident I’ll upkeep the 4.0. As for my masters, I have the option of continuing it under a different concentration, which would give me about 6-12 more credits. Should I continue with my masters and post bacc? My masters would fall under next semester and I can take the classes in the summer for the post bacc but would that affect my application for this cycle?
I don't think continuing your MPH helps. I'm not sure how concurrently getting a 3.4 in an MPH looks alongside getting a 4.0 in a post-bacc.

You should assume that after you hit submit, anything you're doing from that point forward will be to help you for the next cycle more than this one.
 
I don't think continuing your MPH helps. I'm not sure how concurrently getting a 3.4 in an MPH looks alongside getting a 4.0 in a post-bacc.

You should assume that after you hit submit, anything you're doing from that point forward will be to help you for the next cycle more than this one.
Alright, thank you so much for your input!! It really helped me. I did want to clarify, which I just realized I wrote wrong, was that my current gpa is a 3.4. With this semester ending, it should go up to a 3.55. The other option I have left is is doing capstone feildwork projects, which would raise my GPA to a 3.65-3.71. Is that feasible? Rather than adding a concentration, would opting for this choice be worthy? Or should I apply to an SMP instead?
 
Alright, thank you so much for your input!! It really helped me. I did want to clarify, which I just realized I wrote wrong, was that my current gpa is a 3.4. With this semester ending, it should go up to a 3.55. The other option I have left is is doing capstone feildwork projects, which would raise my GPA to a 3.65-3.71. Is that feasible? Rather than adding a concentration, would opting for this choice be worthy? Or should I apply to an SMP instead?
You’ve been told you need a SMP. It would be great if you enroll in one that has linkage with a med school that will guarantee you an interview. You also must kill the SMP. Anything lower than a 3.7+ will limit you if not end your pursuit. You are competing with medical students and you have to prove you are up to the rigors of med school. All of these other programs you have taken, do not indicate much success in med school. A SMP is high stakes.
Good luck.
 
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