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In an adult skull
Originally posted by RollTide
when enough force is applied with a blunt object
Just because you can't feel them move doesn't mean they don't move.
Millions of people believe in God and has never seen him (or her).
Originally posted by oceandocDO
Is this sarcasm? Your argument is the precise reason why cranial should be dropped from contemporary medical education... cranial is religion, not science.
Originally posted by JPHazelton
I am not saying that cranial is religion in any sense. You missed the context in which I was comparing the two.
There are millions of people who believe in God or a god. There is no proof that such a being exists, yet there are all of these people who live their lives by such a being (I am not one of them).
Cranial osteopathy is believed in and practiced by many osteopaths in this country. There is no proof that it does work (although there are studies in the works) and there are no studies that prove that it doesn't work.
For each study cited that "proves" that cranial bones don't move, I could zcite studies that show they do.
So my intial comparison was that just because we cannot prove something does not mean its value should be discredited.
Cranial osteopathy is believed in and practiced by many osteopaths in this country
Originally posted by DOSouthpaw
Something that disturbs me is all of these drug studies in MD journals....it seems like they would be biased toward drugs because they have such a vested interest in them... lol
Originally posted by Cowboy DO
Not sure about the journals, but if the information is comming straight from the drug company then it is without a doubt biased even though what they might give you looks, feels and even smells like a peer reviewed, objective, journal article.
Originally posted by Old brain
Here's an intersesting instrument...
The TechnologyThe ICP monitor uses ultrasonics to gauge
intracranial pressure. The instrument measures
minute changes in distance from one side of the
cranium to the other using a constant-frequency
pulsed phase-locked loop.
http://www.teccenter.org/assets/pdf/intracranial_pressure.pdf
Originally posted by Maxip
OK, this has breached a new level of ridiculousness. So, I am supposed to be convinced that cranial theory is NOT crap because journals like JAMA and NEJM have published articles comparing/evaluating drug treatments? Please tell me that this is NOT what you're all insinuating. Please...
Originally posted by DOSouthpaw
I was just poking fun at all of the "We can't take the cranial research seriously because it's in DO journals because DOs have a vested interest."
With that argument then you can't take drug studies seriously because they are in MD journals and MDs have a vested interest.
Or what about nursing studies that are in nursing journals for that matter??? Can we take those seriously because if it's in a nursing journal and it's about nursing then there has to be bias...
Lord forgive all of the vets out there who dare to publish anything about animals in a vet journal because all those people care about is manipulating the public through their biased artcles on animal care...
That's it, I'm done! lol
Originally posted by xxyyzz
I'm as open minded as they come, but even if skull bones move, how is it physiologically beneficial? I never found the explanations from the cranial gurus very convincing when they tried to elaborate on why cranial works on a systemic level. One person even tried telling me cranial would treat a UTI!!
Originally posted by DOSouthpaw
Hey LolaBlue how about stopping by the Ho and picking me up a Super Ho Combo with a Diet Coke on your way to Pikevegas....I'm starving for one of those.
Originally posted by Doc Oc
How many osteopathic students feel what they are supposed to be feeling when doing cranial?
Originally posted by JPHazelton
What about the Doppler studies? Apparently NASA approved equipment doesn't mean much to you guys, either.
Originally posted by PACtoDOC
Nasa also runs commercials for Tempurpedic mattresses and my back still hurts after buying one!!!