Do you think that less people will be applying to New Orlean's medical schools?

[clc8503]

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This is something I have been giving a lot of consideration. Today, a girl in my class (from New Orleans) told me that it's probally going to take about 6-7 years for the town to completly recover. Do you guys think that less people will be applying to Tulane and LSU (New Orleans)? Their stats probally won't change. However, I could see things going either way. I'm just curious to see what you guys think.

 

[karat]

Hmm I think it goes either way, depending on the candidate. There are many people I know who are like, "aww screw it, i really didn't want to go to Tulane (or another NO) school anyway." But these are people that did not consider these schools their top choices anyway. Plus they all have stats that make them fairly certain that they will get in elsewhere.

On the other hand, there are many applicants who feel like this year they have the opportunity to get into schools like Tulane, which are normally highly competitive. So they are counting on fewer applications to get them a foot in the door. Overall...I do think that fewer people will apply to New Orleans schools this year...but not a very significant decrease.

Just my opinion though.

 

[Saluki]

Actually I hadn't been planning on applying to Tulane, but I almost changed my mind after the flood. I'm planning on eventually doing international work (disaster relief, etc.) and public health stuff, so I thought it would be a good experience. However, Tulane's application fee is way too high, and I'm aiming to go to a part of the country where it snows! (Mayo, UMich- Can you hear me?)

 

[drmota]

i just booked a flight to new orleans about 10 minutes ago for a Tulane interview. so ya..
-mota

 

[theunderdog]

i just booked a flight to new orleans about 10 minutes ago for a Tulane interview. so ya..
-mota

yo damota, when are you interviewing?

im in early dec.

 

[QofQuimica]

This is something I have been giving a lot of consideration. Today, a girl in my class (from New Orleans) told me that it's probally going to take about 6-7 years for the town to completly recover. Do you guys think that less people will be applying to Tulane and LSU (New Orleans)? Their stats probally won't change. However, I could see things going either way. I'm just curious to see what you guys think.

I don't think there will be any problem filling the class, if that's what you're asking. 😉 What I think will happen though is that a different subset of applicants will be interested in Tulane than might have been interested in it pre-hurricane. People like mashce who want to do disaster relief and international health will find Tulane to be a great opportunity, and apply there. People with other interests and goals may decide that Tulane is no longer a good fit for them, and withdraw.

 

[Law2Doc]

Hmm I think it goes either way, depending on the candidate. There are many people I know who are like, "aww screw it, i really didn't want to go to Tulane (or another NO) school anyway." But these are people that did not consider these schools their top choices anyway. Plus they all have stats that make them fairly certain that they will get in elsewhere.

On the other hand, there are many applicants who feel like this year they have the opportunity to get into schools like Tulane, which are normally highly competitive. So they are counting on fewer applications to get them a foot in the door. Overall...I do think that fewer people will apply to New Orleans schools this year...but not a very significant decrease.

Just my opinion though.

I would tend to think that the numbers of applicants will probably stay about the same, but the average stats of applicants/matriculants will probably drop. The top students in the applicant pool (especially those from outside of Louisiana), who tend to have choices, will probably shy away from New Orleans in favor of places with intact school and city infrastructure. But more of the borderline candidates will possibly add NO schools to their lists, as there are a ton of people who will be happy getting in anyplace, notwithstanding any hurricaine damage. May result in a drop in stats and rankings for these schools in the short term.

 

[theunderdog]

trust me. there is NO problem filling the class. if u get an invite, just say, today, you wont be able to book an interview until middle of january.

 

[DrBowtie]

I think that people might choose another school given two acceptances due to the various factors, but they will still get a lot of apps.

 

[-Goose-]

For what its worth, I'm holding multiple acceptances right now and tulane is my top choice (its still a little early, though). My initial goal was to stay in the south (although i applied all across the board) and go to the best school in the south that i got into... Plus, I have family in NO, so Tulane is a natural fit. 🙂

 

[TheMightyAngus]

I interviewed recently at Tulane with the Assistant Dean, Dr. Beckman, who is in charge of filling the class. She said that the caliber of students expressing interest in Tulane Med has remained quite high, even though the adcom thought that it might drop. People interested in Tulane most likely won't let the current state of NO affect their decision. Something like all but 3 students in this past incoming class decided to stay at Tulane, though they were given the option of transfering or doing their first year at someplace other than Baylor (the remaining students deferred a year). For many students on interview day, Tulane was still one of their top choices.

 

[drmota]

yo damota, when are you interviewing?

im in early dec.

they offered me mid december but i had finals within days of it so i'm january 9th in new orleans, they said i'm gonna be the first to interview back at tulane. should be dope, at least i get to get the campus tour and all that jazz.
-mota

 

[MoosePilot]

Let's see if anyone blows up and gets your thread closed...

This really isn't a super relevant question. Who cares if fewer people apply or not? Some people will apply who wouldn't have otherwise, because New Orleans has gotten extensive publicity, because they want the closeness that facing adversity together might foster, or because they want to be part of helping to rebuild. Others will be cautious and will stick with a school that is a known quantity.

The size of the pool might or might not change, but how does that really matter? The composition of the pool probably will, as discussed above. I think the class will be full of people who are interested in novel experiences and think they're up for a challenge. It might be interesting. We'll all be able to answer the question in a year or two just by looking at the number who applied. If it's close to previous years at all, they're sure to publish it.

 

[-Goose-]

The size of the pool might or might not change, but how does that really matter? The composition of the pool probably will, as discussed above. I think the class will be full of people who are interested in novel experiences and think they're up for a challenge. It might be interesting. We'll all be able to answer the question in a year or two just by looking at the number who applied. If it's close to previous years at all, they're sure to publish it.

wrong.
usnews & wr has already said they are placing a one year hold on all admissions statistics for the schools affected by the hurricane. both undergrad and med school.
tulane college (undergrad) recently announced that it has more applications than it did this time last year.

 

[-Goose-]

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1131371929160510.xml

U.S. News and World Report, which ranked Tulane 43rd among national research universities in its latest report, is taking the extraordinary step of freezing data it reports on Tulane and other damaged colleges in its ranking of graduate schools this spring, and is likely to do the same in its general rankings in the fall, said Robert Morse, a research director for the magazine.

Despite the scary New Orleans images sent worldwide after Katrina hit, there are now far more students applying for admission than a year ago, Cowen said. Tulane's lofty name recognition at the moment and students' assumption that admission standards will be lowered are driving the increase, he said. There will be some flexibility in achievement test scores expected, but not much more than in years past, the president said.

 

[MoosePilot]

wrong.
usnews & wr has already said they are placing a one year hold on all admissions statistics for the schools affected by the hurricane. both undergrad and med school.
tulane college (undergrad) recently announced that it has more applications than it did this time last year.

My pronoun might have been unclear, but I said if the number of applicants was even close to previous years Tulane would be sure to publish it (they want people to know they had choices to make and didn't just sign up everyone who applied). You replied that I was wrong, but any decision by US News doesn't really make that true, does it?

Why are you in such a hurry to be confrontational? Defensive?

 

[MoosePilot]

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1131371929160510.xml

Now I don't think I've ever been more gloomy than some of the scenarios that article presents. I think it's a nicely balanced article and summarizes many of the concerns. I think it focuses on the positive, but because it at least acknowledges the uncertainty, I don't think it's a problem.

So if you're willing to post it, why would you jump all over me?

 

[-Goose-]

My pronoun might have been unclear, but I said if the number of applicants was even close to previous years Tulane would be sure to publish it (they want people to know they had choices to make and didn't just sign up everyone who applied). You replied that I was wrong, but any decision by US News doesn't really make that true, does it?

Why are you in such a hurry to be confrontational? Defensive?

a rush to be confrontational?
thats the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever heard it.

 

[MoosePilot]

a rush to be confrontational?
thats the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever heard it.

Show in any thread where I was the first to be confrontational.

 

[drmota]

didn't this same thread happen yesterday?
-mota

 

[-Goose-]

Now I don't think I've ever been more gloomy than some of the scenarios that article presents. I think it's a nicely balanced article and summarizes many of the concerns. I think it focuses on the positive, but because it at least acknowledges the uncertainty, I don't think it's a problem.

So if you're willing to post it, why would you jump all over me?

settle down, nobody's 'jumping all over anyone... '

In case you haven't noticed, all of my posts have carried the exact tone of that article; everyone acknowledges the road ahead will be hard, wrought with challenges, BUT its important to remain optimistic...

 

[MoosePilot]

didn't this same thread happen yesterday?
-mota

I don't think so. Goose actually speaks. I haven't heard a shrill cry that I'm crushing his dreams yet.

 

[MoosePilot]

settle down, nobody's 'jumping all over anyone... '

In case you haven't noticed, all of my posts have carried the exact tone of that article; everyone acknowledges the road ahead will be hard, wrought with challenges, BUT its important to remain optimistic...

I just read the last response in the "other" thread fairly recently, so my experience of being jumped all over was recent.

It is important to remain optimistic, but it's also important to include the challenges. Sometimes one person accomplishes both things (like the article) and sometimes everybody hesitates to address the obvious challenges because they're still excited about New Orleans, med school, possible interview/acceptances, or whatever. At that point I get to become the bad guy by bringing up the other side of the situation. 🙄

 

[drmota]

I don't think so. Goose actually speaks. I haven't heard a shrill cry that I'm crushing his dreams yet.

crush his dreams? he's got several acceptances? and besides...goose would crush you. sorry moose, but nobody f*cks with goose.
-mota

 

[-Goose-]

ANYWAYS....

back to the OP's concerns... I think moose does have a point that Tulane's admitted stats may drop a bit, some of peeps with higher MCATs or GPAs may elect to go elsewhere. I bet approx. the same # of people will apply overall, with a greater % accepted (maybe not - who knows)... Id bet there will be a greater change in the TYPE of applicant. probably more people interested in participating in the rebuilding process, community service, public health, etc etc. rather than those looking to flock to bourbon street 🙂 .
i'd also bet you see more people with ties to NO or LA...

 

[-Goose-]

ANYWAYS....

back to the OP's concerns... I think moose does have a point that Tulane's admitted stats may drop a bit, some of peeps with higher MCATs or GPAs may elect to go elsewhere. However, I bet approx. the same # of people will apply overall, with a greater % accepted (maybe not - who knows)... Id bet there will be a greater change in the TYPE of applicant. probably more people interested in participating in the rebuilding process, community service, public health, etc etc. rather than those looking to flock to bourbon street 🙂 .
i'd also bet you see more people with ties to NO or LA...

 

[-Goose-]

ANYWAYS....

back to the OP's concerns... I think moose does have a point that Tulane's admitted stats may drop a bit, some of peeps with higher MCATs or GPAs may elect to go elsewhere. However, I bet approx. the same # of people will apply overall, with a greater % accepted (maybe not - who knows)... Id bet there will be a greater change in the TYPE of applicant. probably more people interested in participating in the rebuilding process, community service, public health, etc etc. rather than those looking to flock to bourbon street 🙂 .
i'd also bet you see more people with ties to NO or LA...

 

[CoffeeCat]

they offered me mid december but i had finals within days of it so i'm january 9th in new orleans, they said i'm gonna be the first to interview back at tulane. should be dope, at least i get to get the campus tour and all that jazz.
-mota

Really? I thought since the med school was going to stay in Houston, they'd be interviewing in Houston...did they say how it was going to work?

 

[MoosePilot]

crush his dreams? he's got several acceptances? and besides...goose would crush you. sorry moose, but nobody f*cks with goose.
-mota

Flat spin out to sea... sorry, DaMota... the married navigator is doomed from the start 🙁

 

[MoosePilot]

ANYWAYS....

back to the OP's concerns... I think moose does have a point that Tulane's admitted stats may drop a bit, some of peeps with higher MCATs or GPAs may elect to go elsewhere. I bet approx. the same # of people will apply overall, with a greater % accepted (maybe not - who knows)... Id bet there will be a greater change in the TYPE of applicant. probably more people interested in participating in the rebuilding process, community service, public health, etc etc. rather than those looking to flock to bourbon street 🙂 .
i'd also bet you see more people with ties to NO or LA...

I didn't say the stats would drop. I think it's likely they will, but I hadn't said it.

I think Tulane's class might resemble the ideal often touted for DO schools. Lower numbers, higher devotion to public service. Who knows, though?

 

[drmota]

Really? I thought since the med school was going to stay in Houston, they'd be interviewing in Houston...did they say how it was going to work?

she said they're movin everything to new orleans next semester. then she hesitated for a second and said that regardless of what happens there will be someone there to interview me so i should book a flight ASAP. so i did. i'm the first one interviewing in new orleans, the guinea pig so to speak.
-mota

 

[-Goose-]

crush his dreams? he's got several acceptances? and besides...goose would crush you. sorry moose, but nobody f*cks with goose.
-mota

you know dats right 😎

besides, come on, moose, we'd be the perfect pair, moose and goose? eh? get it? eh?

"why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..."

 

[MoosePilot]

you know dats right 😎

besides, come on, moose, we'd be the perfect pair, moose and goose? eh? get it? eh?

"why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..."

Nobody said we couldn't be friends... you just have to acknowledge my superiority. I get the front seat 😀

 

[-Goose-]

I didn't say the stats would drop. I think it's likely they will, but I hadn't said it.

I think Tulane's class might resemble the ideal often touted for DO schools. Lower numbers, higher devotion to public service. Who knows, though?

i said they 'may' drop too (?) where's the disagreement

i think they would have to drop a HUGE amt for that, right? last year avg MCAT = 31? avg DO mcat = low to mid twenties?

i guess we'll see.

 

[-Goose-]

Nobody said we couldn't be friends... you just have to acknowledge my superiority. I get the front seat 😀

i'm supposed to be in the nav seat anyways, right?

i'll always be your wingman, moose.

 

[MoosePilot]

i said they 'may' drop too (?) where's the disagreement

i think they would have to drop a HUGE amt for that, right? last year avg MCAT = 31? avg DO mcat = low to mid twenties?

i guess we'll see.

No disagreement. And I'm not actually saying that I think their numbers will drop any certain amount. I don't think there's anyway to tell. I'm just guessing. I think it's an interesting question and will something to look at over the next few years.

The article brought up "cherry picking" too. I wonder if we'll see this? Other schools have been so helpful to Tulane so far, I'd hate to see them buy off their top talent.

 

[-Goose-]

No disagreement. And I'm not actually saying that I think their numbers will drop any certain amount. I don't think there's anyway to tell. I'm just guessing. I think it's an interesting question and will something to look at over the next few years.

The article brought up "cherry picking" too. I wonder if we'll see this? Other schools have been so helpful to Tulane so far, I'd hate to see them buy off their top talent.

gotcha.

yea-- that would suck. i think that the undergrad has retained all of its full time professors. not that thats necessarily an indication of what will happen with the med school, but it might be (people dedicated to the city)?

Ancedotally (sp), when I was getting my goodwill interview suit altered, i met a tulane orthopaedic surgeon recently displaced by katrina (he was buying a brand new wardrobe of suits -- armani, of course). he said that he was returning for sure. interesting guy, for sure.

 

[excalibur]

It's great seeing that some of you are still determined into getting into my beloved Tulane med, esp. DaMota. I wish you the best of luck, bro. I am curious about the fact that you're interviewing in January in NO though. The med students who are now in Houston are not scheduled to go back to New Orleans unitl the end of the academic year, meaning July/August.

To address certain issues already posted here...I am pretty sure Tulane is still going to hold the same standards during this year's application process as it did b/f Katrina. Just b/c the hurricane hit us hard doesn't mean that Tulane is gonna just take anyone willing to go to this school now. To the OP who was saying a friend said NO would take 6-7 years to recover. I don't know where she got that number, but I do know that many parts of the city are back in business, namely the bars. Places like F & M's, Grits, Bulldog, Balcony, Fat Harry's, DBA, Maple Leaf, Les Bon Temps, Monkey Hill, and oh yes...Bourbon St. (where stories become legend) are at times all one needs to survive in beautiful NO where the nightlife does not stop until the sun comes up. God I miss my New Orleans.

On a more serious note, I'm here in Houston with many other Tulane students, and my classmates and I all miss NO very much, and we're very eager to get back home. We're all very grateful to the Baylor students and the UT-Houston students for not only setting us up with classes and rotations, but also offering their homes to us. I am currently doing a rotation with two Tulane classmates and six Houston kids. We've become a tight knit group very quickly, and it's very comforting b/c it reminds me a lot of what things were like back home. When you go to Tulane, you are part of a big family, and it's hard to explain until you get there. I feel the freshmen class that starts next year at Tulane is gonna be something special b/c you'll always be looked at as the first class admitted after Katrina. Many students, myself included, are going to applaud the fact that you decided to come to Tulane despite the tragedy that has befallen NO. That energy/aura/persona will force that class to come closer together more than any Tulane class in recent years. Just something to look forward to I guess. OK, good luck in getting in to Tulane.

 

[drmota]

I am curious about the fact that you're interviewing in January in NO though. The med students who are now in Houston are not scheduled to go back to New Orleans unitl the end of the academic year, meaning July/August.

ya, just the administration part of tulane med is moving back. so basically i'm getting a tour of the medical center and classrooms that are completely desolate, which should be weird. but interesting. and it'll probably provide plenty of opportunities for joking. and everyone likes a good laugh. even in a desolate medical building.
-mota