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wassup err1. hope everyones doing well. so i was wondering, now that step 1 is pass fail, does that take some importance off of the MCAT? Bc i heard MCAT is supposed to be the main predictor for Step scores but now what? Im sure theres more to this, so im wondering what yall think of my opinion

edit to clarify... Im wondering if the MCAT will be less important for adcoms bc Step 1 is P/F
 
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I have heard No the MCAT won't go P/F anytime soon. Right now the best predictor of med school success is a combination of MCAT and GPA. Maybe in the next few years but if you are hoping for P/F MCAT in the next 5 years I highly doubt they will make that change before that time.
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I have heard No the MCAT won't go P/F anytime soon. Right now the best predictor of med school success is a combination of MCAT and GPA. Maybe in the next few years but if you are hoping for P/F MCAT in the next 5 years I highly doubt they will make that change before that time.
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no no im not saying that MCAT will go P/F

Will the MCAT hold less weight for adcoms during med school apps
 
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I highly doubt it. I actually have a crazy theory that it might start holding more weight. I'd be curious to see what the breakdown of grades/gpas has been since the start of COVID. It seems like for many grades have gone up due to the transition to online classes. And if that's the case I could see the MCAT being more of a factor to differentiate COVID grade inflation. Again, this just conjecture and is slightly tangential to your original question.
 
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I highly doubt it. I actually have a crazy theory that it might start holding more weight. I'd be curious to see what the breakdown of grades/gpas has been since the start of COVID. It seems like for many grades have gone up due to the transition to online classes. And if that's the case I could see the MCAT being more of a factor to differentiate COVID grade inflation. Again, this just conjecture and is slightly tangential to your original question.
altho ik what ur saying, covid is only a short term thing. this wont be the case over the next few years. Also, i heard a while ago that Covid MCAT scores were also up, maybe due to the shorter exam time? Maybe because there are so many resources like UWorld and Anki? who knows haha but I hope it doesnt. Its the only thing going for me haha
 

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No. MCAT going P/F schools might start looking at where you graduated from to gauge difficulty. Then where you go to college starts to matter. SAT next victim?
 
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I have heard No the MCAT won't go P/F anytime soon. Right now the best predictor of med school success is a combination of MCAT and GPA. Maybe in the next few years but if you are hoping for P/F MCAT in the next 5 years I highly doubt they will make that change before that time.
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Thanks for that source, @drstranger
 

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no no im not saying that MCAT will go P/F

Will the MCAT hold less weight for adcoms during med school apps
No. The main difference in selecting medical students over medical residents is one of applicant pool size and the differing weight ofet the factors in consideration.

In medical student selection, you have an:
-extremely large pool of applicants
-being looked at for rather broad characteristics of academic ability and traits for being a physician
-with a large swath of majors and background
-from a wide variety of colleges
-with vast differences in rigor
-major differences even within and across majors
-with no standardization of grading or academic evaluation
-extremely uneven and wide variation in letters of evaluations that emphasis only the student
-extremely wide variation of professors and evaluators a large web of connections make personal connections much less important
-this large pool of applicants going into a large class (100+) makes this process a large group dynamic
All this makes the MCAT the single standard measure across all this variation

In medical resident selection
-you have a much smaller pool of applicants
-with extremely well-defined and specific requirements of knowledge, ability and teamwork
-from a very narrow and well-defined curriculum
-from a small array of medical schools with closely similar educational missions
-with a similar standards of rigor closely overseen by accrediting bodies
-with similar grading in that all students must show achievement in virtually the same curriculum
-with evaluations from a very similar pool of evaluators (all with MD and board certification in narrow, well defined fields where reputation of the evaluator is as important as the student. That is, an evaluator will not recommend students to a residency that isnt is a good fit, They need to preserve the reputation themselves in this process
-Personal connections and networking are nearly as important as any other factors
-this small pool of very similar applicants into a very small number of residents being evaluated and recommended by people of extremely similar backgrounds makes this process a small group dynamic
All this makes the STEP I less important as a factor
 
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wassup err1. hope everyones doing well. so i was wondering, now that step 1 is pass fail, does that take some importance off of the MCAT? Bc i heard MCAT is supposed to be the main predictor for Step scores but now what? Im sure theres more to this, so im wondering what yall think of my opinion

edit to clarify... Im wondering if the MCAT will be less important for adcoms bc Step 1 is P/F

According to the methodology used by US News & World Report, 13% of each school's rank is determined by median MCAT score of the matriculating class.

Unless this changes there is no chance whatsoever that the MCAT will be broadly de-emphasized.
 
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wassup err1. hope everyones doing well. so i was wondering, now that step 1 is pass fail, does that take some importance off of the MCAT? Bc i heard MCAT is supposed to be the main predictor for Step scores but now what? Im sure theres more to this, so im wondering what yall think of my opinion

edit to clarify... Im wondering if the MCAT will be less important for adcoms bc Step 1 is P/F
You heard VERY wrong.

Preclinical GPAs are very good predictors of Boards performance. MCAT is a weak predictor, at best.

Stop engaging in premed thinking.
 
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I'm currently evaluating my perception of GPA/MCAT and Board performance. @Goro, could you direct me to some published studies that you trust on these topics?
Literally just use google scholar and you will find several publications on medical student performance and predictors.
 
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