Does anyone WANT to go to NYMC?

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I have an inteview at NYMC in about a month and I was wondering if I should go or not, since I have an acceptance at Creighton. I liked Creighton a lot and am waiting to hear back from some higher ranked schools. So my questions is this, does anyone choose to go to NYMC? Or is it the school of last resort filled with people who did not get in anywhere else and New Yorkers who won't leave New York?

The main reason that I am considering going is that it is near NYC, which is a much better city than Omaha. Are there any other reasons that I should keep it in the running?
 
I interviewed at NYMC back in November (the 12th to be exact). I really liked the school, the campus and the students. I stayed on campus with a first year in his suite and the place was definitely livable. You are only 45 mins from NYC and it seemed like the students did go down to the city every once in a while. Plus the last two years (rotations) can be down right in Manhattan if you want to and they will set u up with an affordable place to live. Which is more than I can say for NYU, CVolumbia or Mt Sinai.

Also the facilities are brand spanking new and they have the most incredible anatomy lab I have EVER seen. They are also building a new childrens hopsitla on campus and it is supposed to look like magic mountain.

If that doesnt sway your vote, I have to say the kids I met their were among the most laid back and friendly. They took me out to wathc monday night football and I got to meet a lot of other peeps, all of whom were very diverse and interesting.

The only snag I saw was the price tag. It is mad expensive, but I would say the students their were among the happiest I met. You live literally across the street from class your first two years and you never have to worry about parking or theft from what I heard. Also as intimidating as NYC seeemd to me it would still be phjat to live there and work there for a few years while you are young. Hope that helps.
-CT
 
i sure didn't want to go there. i found nothing remarkable about the school when i interviewed there. there match list was mediocre as well. i withdrew my application shortly thereafter.

a couple of +'s are: on-campus housing for first 2 years (lottery system for housing in manhattan for clinical years), close vicinity to NYC, diverse clinical training sites.

--jj
 
NYMC was pretty cool - much better than I thought. I personally like the relaxing atmosphere of being in the middle of nowhere, but that could change if I had to live there for a long time. Joe Joe is right though - the matchlist... from what I could tell... looked pretty weak.
 
A decent school. Focus is on primary care so if that's your thing then NYMC would be a good match for you. When I interviewed last year, it seemed like the students were really really stressed out, much more than the average student at other schools. The anatomy lab is cool, dorms are NICE, but those really aren't reasons why I would choose to go there. Also Valhalla is about 45 minutes from the city and if you don't have a car it's really inconvenient to go to the city for a friday night or whatever.
 
Just so everyone knows...the NYMC website is NEVER--I repeat NEVER--updated. 😡
 
My app was complete at the end of September and I got my invite around mid November via email.

Personally, I am looking for a place where I think that I would fit in. I am not really interested in doing research and am looking for a strong clinical program. Student happiness is also important to me. I would love to live in or near NYC, but don't want to go to a place that the students consider their last choice. It is my understanding that Finch is that way.

Any other comments. I am married, and will be bringing my wife who is a professional graphic designer. Are their jobs for her in the area, or is it especially rural?
 
JBJ,

Rural? Dude, Westchester County is one of the top-10 most affluent places to live in the United States according to US News (or was it Newsweek?). Anyway, there's no question of finding work. I would say 1/2 the people here work in the county and the other 1/2 commute to NYC. A lot of people who live here are former Manhattanites who moved to the suburbs to raise their families.

I went to grad school at NYMC and had a great time there. All the med students I know are pretty cool people, not competitive bastards like in some other places I've been.

I was also pretty happy with the social scene there. Everyone really knows how to work hard AND play hard. Lots of parties in the dorm complex, events at school, and NYC outings. There are also lots of bars, movie theaters, 3 major malls, etc... within a short drive (you do need a car here).

They have nice married housing that's pretty cheap. They're all 2 bedroom apartments.

The anatomy lab is BEAUTIFUL. It was even featured in an article in the NY Times. It's so nice you could live in there. Well, except for the dead people. 😛

I've lived in Westchester my whole life and think it's a great alternative to living in NYC. At NYMC you're only about 25 miles from Manhattan and 15 miles from the NYC (Bronx) border.

PM me if you have any questions or need interview travel tips, etc.. 😉
 
ummm, isn't there supposed to be some prison right next to the school? i remember visiting there a few years back when my brother had an interview and we passed by what seemed to be a prison on the way there.
 
um, can we please show a little more sensitivity to people on here who have no acceptances and would love to go to NYMC (I can relate b/c I was in the same position myself 2 years ago).. most peoples' first choice will be their state school (s) or a top 25 if their stats are good, therefore pricey but very respectable schools like NYMC, SLU, and (gasp) Creighton are unlikely to be many people's top choice. I know that many people in my class would have rather attended a UC med school, but they are enjoying Boston and making the most of their education here (and many TUSM grads match in CA). and as JJNY said, NYMC is in a decent location and not in the backwoods of Upstate NY; I'm quite sure the jobs in and around NY would be fine for your wife, if not better than in STL. Even if she had to commute via rapid transit it's not a tragedy, in fact plenty of my classmates who are married or engaged commute without it being a major disruption (and my mom and dad commuted long distances in opposite directions when I was a child without getting divorced). NYMC was my 5th choice and I would have been honored to go there if they had let me in. SLU, my 3rd choice, accepted me and I would have been even more honored to attend had I not been admitted to Tufts. an MD is an MD, and the patients don't care where you get it from.
 
I might be able to shed some light because I interviewed at both schools and overall, I like Creighton better. Creighton's atmosphere was the overidding factor. People there seemed so happy to be there and the campus itself was really nice(really impressive sports facility). NYMC was nice too and their facilities were top notch but I didnt like the area as much as Omaha (seriously). I was able to drive around Omaha though and was quite impressed(maybe I had really low expectations?). Although I liked both schools alot, I would/will choose Creighton over NYMC if it comes down to that. Just my two cents.......

Jetson
 
NYMC has a reputation of being a backup or last resort school
but their class roster is full of Ivies, so who knows
but I personally won't want to go there
first, reputation is important
second, westchester is really hick, no matter how affulent the neighborhood is, if you don't have money to fit in, it is not a place for you
even if they say it is 45 mins away from nyc, the transportation sucks!
 
Originally posted by Joe Joe on da Radio
i sure didn't want to go there. i found nothing remarkable about the school when i interviewed there. there match list was mediocre as well. i withdrew my application shortly thereafter.
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this is how i felt when i visited 🙁 it was really depressing, because it never crossed my mind beforehand that that could happen. i think my expectations were too high after reading reviews of it on sdn. the campus is ok, but it is not that beautiful as others have said. and yes, there is a penitentiary as you drive up to the school. i almost withdrew my app b/c if it's the only school i get into i'm not sure i want to go there. after a lot of thinking i've decided to suck it up and live off campus if i do end up getting in and don't get in elsewhere. it wasn't THAT BAD... i just couldn't see myself happy there with the dorm-style living like i'm 19 living arrangements and exams every other week for like 11 months straight the first year. my student host seemed extremely overworked and unhappy. i know it's only one person, but it's really hard not to let that impact my overall feel about the school. the only real positives for me were that the students do well on the boards and the facilities (e.g. anatomy lab) are nice. i felt like people were there b/c they couldn't get into uc's, which sadly will most likely be the position i'm in come this spring. students don't really have time to go into the city much if that's what's drawing you there, and it's really hard to get their housing in the city for 3rd/4th year. on the other hand, your spouse could work in the city which is a fairly easy commute by train.

if you'll always think "i wonder if i would have liked nymc", you should go to the interview. if not, i think you should skip it and give someone else your interview spot.
 
is NYMC a good school?
 
Originally posted by borg
is NYMC a good school?
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Honestly, any medical school in the United States is a good school. Personally, I feel that NYMC gets a bad rep that it doesn't really deserve. If I wanted to go to a medical school in a suburban location, I'd be happy at NYMC. I will admit that it's one of the more expensive schools, though...
 
I think it's good if you want to match into primary care, and don't mind paying the high tuition.
 
Originally posted by carrigallen, Jefferson Medical College, Class of 2007
I think it's good if you want to match into primary care, and don't mind paying the high tuition.
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I checked out Jefferson medical website.
The tuition difference between NYMC and Jefferson is less than $2,000. NYMC tuition does not seem to be really higher than Jefferson medical.

The percentage of jefferson students matching into primary care is roughly the same as NYMC students. Why is NYMC good if you want to match into primary care?
 
Originally posted by MD-2007-Gal
Honestly, any medical school in the United States is a good school. Personally, I feel that NYMC gets a bad rep that it doesn't really deserve. If I wanted to go to a medical school in a suburban location, I'd be happy at NYMC. I will admit that it's one of the more expensive schools, though...
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I am confused about tuition. I have seen people state NYMC is one of the more expensive schools. I understand the public schools being state supported are cheaper than private. However, when I went to NYMC website, the tuition to be seems similar to other private medical schools. I understand the private medical tuition is insane. However, could some one help me understand why people say NYMC is one of the more expensive private schools?
 
Originally posted by borg
I am confused about tuition. I have seen people state NYMC is one of the more expensive schools. I understand the public schools being state supported are cheaper than private. However, when I went to NYMC website, the tuition to be seems similar to other private medical schools. I understand the private medical tuition is insane. However, could some one help me understand why people say NYMC is one of the more expensive private schools?
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Most private schools are going to cost 30k+ so I'd say nymc is right on par. I always find it amusing when people say that so and so school is one of the more expensive privates. If it is private its gonna be expensive! Sure some are more expensive than others but by what? usually 2k, 3k at the most? Either way...the loans one will be paying back will be enormous coming from a private school.

Personally, I wouldn't accept "the tuition is one of the more expensive privates" as a valid reason not to go to a private school.

just my 2 pennies.
 
can somebody please explain to me why people think nymc has a weak match? i see a ton of people in some top places for radiology, surgery, and orhto. their internal match may be relatively weak but i think the specialist list is strong.
 
Originally posted by ankitovich
can somebody please explain to me why people think nymc has a weak match? i see a ton of people in some top places for radiology, surgery, and orhto. their internal match may be relatively weak but i think the specialist list is strong.
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It even looks to me that their internal med match is good.
 
Originally posted by ankitovich
can somebody please explain to me why people think nymc has a weak match? i see a ton of people in some top places for radiology, surgery, and orhto. their internal match may be relatively weak but i think the specialist list is strong.
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from my brief scan of it, it looks pretty decent. that is their most recent match. perhaps it was not so good in the past?
i think if you like the school then that's great. it is not by any means a bad school, just not the place for everyone.
 
well, when people comment on the "expense" of NYMC, yes, superficially their cost of attendance might only be a couple thousand dollars higher per year than other schools I've interviewed at. But, personally I remember the fin aid talk at my nymc interview being a long harangue on rectifying our credit histories. Contrast that with other private schools I've interviewed at with significant need based grant monies, alumni scholarships, and subsidized institutional loans.

just my 2 cents 🙂
 
the match list really doesn't look that bad. lots of people in radiology and emergency medicine. no transitionals, so that's good.

i interviewed in january, still waiting to hear. hoping to get in so i'll be in NY.

i thought that the school was tough, but maybe that's a good thing, cause you'll work hard and get the benefits later on. i also thought that they had good clinical rotations with lots of hands on experience.
 
Originally posted by DW
well, when people comment on the "expense" of NYMC, yes, superficially their cost of attendance might only be a couple thousand dollars higher per year than other schools I've interviewed at. But, personally I remember the fin aid talk at my nymc interview being a long harangue on rectifying our credit histories. Contrast that with other private schools I've interviewed at with significant need based grant monies, alumni scholarships, and subsidized institutional loans.

just my 2 cents 🙂
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It is my understanding that substantial number of medical schools are concerned about credit reports because federal aid has been decreasing and private loans, that may be needed, require good credit. It could be NYMC is trying to be proactive in telling students to rectifying any negative credit history.

According to NYMC website, they do have subsidized institutional loans and a scholarship program.

I have heard generally speaking that most medical school financial packages are loans and scholarships are rare.

I am curious about what financial packages students from Medical schools including NYMC have received.
 
Originally posted by borg
It is my understanding that substantial number of medical schools are concerned about credit reports because federal aid has been decreasing and private loans, that may be needed, require good credit. It could be NYMC is trying to be proactive in telling students to rectifying any negative credit history.

I have heard generally speaking that most medical school financial packages are loans and scholarships are rare.

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From what I know this is true. The federal government ended the HEAL (loans for people going to health fields) program. Thus, there is more use of private loans by many medical schools. It would make sense that NYMC is telling students to rectify any negative credit history ASAP.

I agree with that most medical school financial packages are loans.
 
Originally posted by borg
It is my understanding that substantial number of medical schools are concerned about credit reports because federal aid has been decreasing and private loans, that may be needed, require good credit. It could be NYMC is trying to be proactive in telling students to rectifying any negative credit history.

According to NYMC website, they do have subsidized institutional loans and a scholarship program.

I have heard generally speaking that most medical school financial packages are loans and scholarships are rare.

I am curious about what financial packages students from Medical schools including NYMC have received.
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Well, yes, but you really think you'll get the same deal at the UPitts, Cornells, Dukes, and maybe even the Jeffersons (a school with the largest alumni base among medical schools in the US, at which I was offered a partial scholarship) of the world as you will at NYMC? I highly doubt it. The implication I got from nymc's get-your-credit-straight-lecture was basically "be prepared to dip into alternative loans".

I'm not pulling this out of thin air. The usnews (yes, i know, take what they say with a grain of salt, yadda yadda yadda), published a report two years ago that put nymc among the 10 schools with the highest average student debt upon graduation along with finch and a handful of DO schools. I cant hyperlink it hear cause the link is broken. But, if you have paid access to the usnews medical school online comparison tool, you can compare average student loan debts between schools and nymc is substantially higher than most medical schools with a substantial lower percentage of the student body receiving grant and scholarship money. so, I think it can be potentially argued that cost is an issue at nymc relative to other medical schools

that said, nymc is of course a perfectly fine medical school and will provide you a sufficient medical education like all US programs do. not partaking in any bashing here, just relaying my two cents 😎
 
I'm going to answer the question that this thread was originally asking. I do believe that NYMC is a good school. Do people actually want to go there? Yes, I do, but not because I was blown away by the school. Of all the schools I've interviewed at, NYMC is only my fifth choice school, but I would not mind going there at all because they provide a great medical education that provides it students the opportunity to get the highest USMLE score possible because they work their students. The chance to do clerkships in Manhattan is a very big plus. Like any medical school, if you work hard at NYMC you will get a damn good residency and be a damn good doctor.

I'm so sick of all the elitists on SDN that have something bad to say about good medical schools. Is a school like NYMC comparable to Harvard? Hell no, but who cares. Can a graduate of NYMC beat out a Harvard grad for the most competitive residency? Hell yes.
 
Originally posted by DW
Well, yes, but you really think you'll get the same deal at the UPitts, Cornells, Dukes, and maybe even the Jeffersons (a school with the largest alumni base among medical schools in the US, at which I was offered a partial scholarship) of the world as you will at NYMC? I highly doubt it. The implication I got from nymc's get-your-credit-straight-lecture was basically "be prepared to dip into alternative loans".

I'm not pulling this out of thin air. The usnews (yes, i know, take what they say with a grain of salt, yadda yadda yadda), published a report two years ago that put nymc among the 10 schools with the highest average student debt upon graduation along with finch and a handful of DO schools. I cant hyperlink it hear cause the link is broken. But, if you have paid access to the usnews medical school online comparison tool, you can compare average student loan debts between schools and nymc is substantially higher than most medical schools with a substantial lower percentage of the student body receiving grant and scholarship money. so, I think it can be potentially argued that cost is an issue at nymc relative to other medical schools

that said, nymc is of course a perfectly fine medical school and will provide you a sufficient medical education like all US programs do. not partaking in any bashing here, just relaying my two cents 😎
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It would have been nice to view the us news report to actually see how much average Debt NYMC students compared to other schools that you mentioned. The difference might be only 2-3k a year.

For what its worth NYMC is not the only medical school requesting students check their credit report. Here is an example link to university of cincinatti http://www.med.uc.edu/medical/financial/creditreport.cfm
 
Originally posted by ms
It would have been nice to view the us news report to actually see how much average Debt NYMC students compared to other schools that you mentioned. The difference might be only 2-3k a year.
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well, if you want to, you can pay the 10 bucks or whatever it is and get the online usnews med school comparison tool from their website, and read breakdowns of percentage of students receiving aid, percentage getting grants/scholarships, etc. The figures are from the class of 2001, but the difference between specific schools i have mentioned above and nymc range from 30 to 60 K in average debt difference. Again, I'm not making this up. I at least am basing my clarification on the debt issue on documented reports I've read. You're more than welcome to pay or dig through old usnews to read those same reports.

ok, i wash my hands of this thread. nymc, good school. i think it might cost a little more in the long run than some other private schools, but its a fine school in the long run.
 
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