Does your school devote adequate time to sexual health and LGBT health?

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I wish an admin would just close this thread so I didn't have to come on here and read some of these dumb posts. How can the OP close their own thread??

Doesn't work like that. This thread hasn't broke the TOS so it's here to stay unless someone starts majorly trolling.

My main take away point if anyone cares is just that we all will have LGBTQ patients at some point and we should do our best to treat them to the best of our abilities without judgment, trying to make them straight, or generally being an arsehole.

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well it was nice knowing you!

I've reported some of these peeps and am about to go stealthmode on this thread. until another account, so long!

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this is my 3rd SDN account and the fools on here get slower every year....
 
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this is my 3rd SDN account and the fools on here get slower every year....

It's sad. You actually raised a really important topic, and there have been some excellent points of discussion. I've learned a lot from this thread.

But you can't help but continue to make inflammatory statements (e.g. the one I quoted way back on this thread) and get riled up to the point of being borderline nonsensical.
 
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Too much time if you ask me .. From lesbian,gay health issues to sex position, rape victims, different kind of sex toys and sodomy -- and all of that for just 1 credit
 
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seriously? You have a problem with my approach but not the bigoted outright hateful comments here??? seriously??

This is exactly my point.

Why do you make the illogical leap to say I have no problem with the hateful comments of others? I do, actually have a problem with them. I find them below even being worth commenting on. I implied as much earlier in the thread. But when you make inflammatory statements like:

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Just when you think medical students are mature enough to talk about this, you get some sensitive types who still think LGBT is some agenda ready to infiltrate your brain cells and turn you gay.

It is very hard to take your contributions/discussion seriously.
 
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i've learned that transvestite and tranny are offensive. will stick to using transgender only.

i've also learned that OP is unable to handle the fact that people can have different opinions than <insert gender-neutral pronoun>
 
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see pals another one. Someone comes onto the forum to ask about "LGBT health" and now you have some dimwit talking about rape and boiling it all down to sex. I never in my original thread brought it down to sex. I don't believe I even used the word sex. But you people on here are too dumb to acknowledge the outright homophobia amongst some of these posters.

I can even see your post since you deleted it or filled with emoticons or whatever. I was just merely responding to your question.
I suggest you calm down buddy and see a psychiatrist for your insecurity issues.
 
I can even see your post since you deleted it or filled with emoticons or whatever. I was just merely responding to your question.
I suggest you calm down buddy and see a psychiatrist got your insecurity issues.
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Well this took a turn for the weird

:( too bad because I think it would be great to have an actual conversation on this topic :(
 
Too much time if you ask me .. From lesbian,gay health issues to sex position, rape victims, different kind of sex toys and sodomy -- and all of that for just 1 credit

Lol I haven't seen the word sodomy used seriously in a long time.
 
Hey, PhysioMD, good job on ruining an interesting thread just because you can't handle opinions that differ from yours.

Foolish.
 
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...The heck happened here? Ugh. Nevermind.

FWIW I'm happy to answer any and all questions on GSM health care, whether cultural or medical. It's my focus within medicine :)

Has anyone done research into a possible hormone replacement affect on MI presentation?

Not that I'm aware of. There's still a lot of confusion over what risk factors shift when a trans person goes on hormone therapy - there's little consensus over even "basic" things like breast cancer and prostate cancer screenings.
 
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Too much time if you ask me .. From lesbian,gay health issues to sex position, rape victims, different kind of sex toys and sodomy -- and all of that for just 1 credit
sex toys? Is that for the odd cases in the ER?
 
Well this took a turn for the weird

:( too bad because I think it would be great to have an actual conversation on this topic :(

At a minimum this thread indirectly answered OP's question with a resounding "No." I actually feel we've gotten fair exposure to these issues at my school.
 
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sex toys? Is that for the odd cases in the ER?

Not the person who originally commented on sex toys, but I have a few thoughts...

Yes, issues with sex toys do crop up in the ER. Examples off the top of my head include objects lost in the rectum or urethra, vaginal/rectal/urethral damage from object insertion, and accidental injury while engaging in sexual or sensual activities. Some, especially within BDSM communities, are very reluctant to seek treatment in a medical setting because of negative reactions from care providers even in emergencies.

But I think there's a role in other settings too. Not just disease prevention through condom use on dildos and that kinda stuff... but on the varying ways that people enjoy themselves sexually and sensually, the risks involved with those activities, and appropriate and sensitive ways to respond to their enjoyments when those enjoyments are unusual. For example... roughly 5-10% of the US population regularly enjoys BDSM, and that number goes up to 30% depending your definitions (Citation). And there's a role for physicians (both specialists and PCPs) in that community to assist with risk evaluation and reduction. There's a really great organization that's coming together to provide some of this care and provider education. You can check them out at: http://www.tashra.org/
 
Not the person who originally commented on sex toys, but I have a few thoughts...

Yes, issues with sex toys do crop up in the ER. Examples off the top of my head include objects lost in the rectum or urethra, vaginal/rectal/urethral damage from object insertion, and accidental injury while engaging in sexual or sensual activities. Some, especially within BDSM communities, are very reluctant to seek treatment in a medical setting because of negative reactions from care providers even in emergencies.

But I think there's a role in other settings too. Not just disease prevention through condom use on dildos and that kinda stuff... but on the varying ways that people enjoy themselves sexually and sensually, the risks involved with those activities, and appropriate and sensitive ways to respond to their enjoyments when those enjoyments are unusual. For example... roughly 5-10% of the US population regularly enjoys BDSM, and that number goes up to 30% depending your definitions (Citation). And there's a role for physicians (both specialists and PCPs) in that community to assist with risk evaluation and reduction. There's a really great organization that's coming together to provide some of this care and provider education. You can check them out at: http://www.tashra.org/

There's a course I wouldn't mind attending.
 
There's a course I wouldn't mind attending.

As far as I know it's not typically part of med school curriculum (more's the pity), but I adore this presentation a DO student put together on BDSM a while back: http://www.amsa.org/AMSA/Libraries/Academy_Docs/BeyondWhipsAndChains.sflb.ashx

There's also this (really short but really good) book: http://www.amazon.com/Health-Care-Without-Shame-Caregivers/dp/1890159123

I covered a little bit of the variety in a Gender and Sexual Minorities 101 on my blog, but it needs redone 'cause I was sick at the time... and also neglected to include non-binary gender identities (bad me!): http://openmindedhealth.com/2014/02/genderandsexualminorities101/

You could always get in touch with your local sex-positive communities too! or the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom. :) Purely for educational reasons, of course... ;)
 
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As far as I know it's not typically part of med school curriculum (more's the pity), but I adore this presentation a DO student put together on BDSM a while back: http://www.amsa.org/AMSA/Libraries/Academy_Docs/BeyondWhipsAndChains.sflb.ashx

There's also this (really short but really good) book: http://www.amazon.com/Health-Care-Without-Shame-Caregivers/dp/1890159123

I covered a little bit of the variety in a Gender and Sexual Minorities 101 on my blog, but it needs redone 'cause I was sick at the time... and also neglected to include non-binary gender identities (bad me!): http://openmindedhealth.com/2014/02/genderandsexualminorities101/

You could always get in touch with your local sex-positive communities too! or the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom. :) Purely for educational reasons, of course... ;)

The ppt is disappointingly superficial. :(

Daaaamn, you really are well informed about this.
 
Not the person who originally commented on sex toys, but I have a few thoughts...

Yes, issues with sex toys do crop up in the ER. Examples off the top of my head include objects lost in the rectum or urethra, vaginal/rectal/urethral damage from object insertion, and accidental injury while engaging in sexual or sensual activities. Some, especially within BDSM communities, are very reluctant to seek treatment in a medical setting because of negative reactions from care providers even in emergencies.

But I think there's a role in other settings too. Not just disease prevention through condom use on dildos and that kinda stuff... but on the varying ways that people enjoy themselves sexually and sensually, the risks involved with those activities, and appropriate and sensitive ways to respond to their enjoyments when those enjoyments are unusual. For example... roughly 5-10% of the US population regularly enjoys BDSM, and that number goes up to 30% depending your definitions (Citation). And there's a role for physicians (both specialists and PCPs) in that community to assist with risk evaluation and reduction. There's a really great organization that's coming together to provide some of this care and provider education. You can check them out at: http://www.tashra.org/
Good to see there's increasing medical awareness on such things. I'm just curious to what extent a physician can detach from his/her cultural and religious values to be able to treat patients on different levels for such things. Then again, there's an endless number of things that can be discussed on those terms.
 
On this thread's note, curious why there isn't more focus on teaching future physicians to practice preventative medicine when dealing with those who are very active sexually with emphasis on males who have homosexual sex (though this is something that's region dependent... HIV rates etc.).
 
On this thread's note, curious why there isn't more focus on teaching future physicians to practice preventative medicine when dealing with those who are very active sexually with emphasis on males who have homosexual sex (though this is something that's region dependent... HIV rates etc.).

Because getting patients to modify their lifestyles is a lesson in futility.
 
Because getting patients to modify their lifestyles is a lesson in futility.
hmm? I've personally managed to educate a few people I know and they've actually changed from unprotected sex to protected sex. Educating people that they aren't as invincible as they think they are isn't a bad thing to do.
 
hmm? I've personally managed to educate a few people I know and they've actually changed from unprotected sex to protected sex. Educating people that they aren't as invincible as they think they are isn't a bad thing to do.

Also some people have really silly ideas about safe sex. Like yahoo answers silly. It doesn't hurt to try and educate people.
 
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Because getting patients to modify their lifestyles is a lesson in futility.

yeah my doctor tells me to get more vitamin d but i stopped taking it because they all melted together
she's all like you're a med student you should know better
 
Also some people have really silly ideas about safe sex. Like yahoo answers silly. It doesn't hurt to try and educate people.
Much like banging your head against a wall, it doesn't hurt at first but the more you do it the more it does start to hurt.
 
I'll just play out the rest of this thread to save us time

me: well, here is the clinical experience of everyone ever . here is research showing the extremely low success rate of behavior/lifestyle modification
premeds: public health yabba dabba doo. We convinced 2 people to use condoms, even though they probably just lied to shut us up
me: you're a naive premed.
premeds: offended, our opinions are valid
me: lots of facepalm gifs
 
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Lol I'm not offended. I see your point and I like the head bang analogy. I just wanted to share my condom story
 
The ppt is disappointingly superficial. :(

Daaaamn, you really are well informed about this.

I try. Problem is that there are very very few data on even LGB health, must less transgender or intersex or poly or kinky or or or... :( And a huge chunk of research (mostly "older", but some new stuff still too) is biased or improperly done.

I'm sorry you found the ppt superficial. :( Sad sad. I thought she did a good job of covering the psych behind BDSM, and thus making it comprehensible to vanilla folks. Rule 34 applies to real life, though, so in that spirit... I poked around a found a list of checklists including BDSM activities. These lists are used as part of negotiations, and are definitely not complete, but should give you a broader sense of what people enjoy.... (very NSFW) http://ranai.wordpress.com/kink-resources/en/topics/checklists/ You can definitely see in those lists how some would have medical consequences and safety considerations, where many others do not.

Good to see there's increasing medical awareness on such things. I'm just curious to what extent a physician can detach from his/her cultural and religious values to be able to treat patients on different levels for such things.

People are trying, but there is a LOT of stigma still to overcome. It's why threads like this are important. :)

As for cultural/religious values...I honestly don't know. How well is anyone able to do that? If you tossed me into a room full of conservative Roman Catholics I'd probably stumble over some cultural thing I didn't know existed. I tend to believe that a lot of culture can be handled with respect and flexibility on both sides, but I also know that's naive. :p

On the other hand, I've seen great care be delivered to transgender people by a cisgender person, and to LGB people from straight people. I'm confident that health care for kinky people can be delivered by vanilla people. :)

On this thread's note, curious why there isn't more focus on teaching future physicians to practice preventative medicine when dealing with those who are very active sexually with emphasis on males who have homosexual sex

Don't you mean "emphasis on people who have unprotected anal sex"? Same-sex sex ≠ anal sex... many MSM don't have anal sex at all. Why are you focusing on that group more than others?

Because getting patients to modify their lifestyles is a lesson in futility.

Eh... I think it depends on how you try to get them to modify lifestyle. Saying "don't do that thing" doesn't help and alienates. Saying "What I'm hearing is that this activity is important to you. Can do X2 instead of X1 to reduce your risks of Y and Z?" or the like is, IMO, more likely to be received and considered. Harm reduction rather than harm elimination.

Also some people have really silly ideas about safe sex.

OMG yes. I had a girlfriend once who was convinced hot tubs spread STIs like crazy. Ugh. There's also the pervasive myth in the lesbian community that lesbians are at really really low risk for STIs and don't need screened or need to use protection. Nooooo fluid and skin contact is fluid and skin contact and can spread STIs! Gha.

There's also a lot of risk when people start to go outside the "norm" in sexuality, simply because there isn't enough info circulating on safety.
 
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Well if you go into a hot tub you can get a Pseudomonas infection or breathe in some Mycobacterium avium so it's not like her fears are totally unfounded. Then again those aren't STIs so she is still wrong.
 
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Well if you go into a hot tub you can get a Pseudomonas infection or breathe in some Mycobacterium avium so it's not like her fears are totally unfounded. Then again those aren't STIs so she is still wrong.

Excellent correction!

Yeah she was convinced I'd gotten gonnorhea or similar.
 
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