Donation For Acceptance?

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  1. PlayaHata

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    Hey I heard that it is possible to get an acceptance at a Medical School my making a donation. Can anyone tell me if this is possible and if it is how one goes about doing this. I dont think that you can call the admissions committee and say you want to make a donation as long as you get an acceptance (or can you). How much do you think something like this would cost?
    Hey I'm thinking of every option right now.
     
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  3. dank

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    I think that it is possible to get into medical school with a donation, but I don't think just anyone with money can make the donation. You would probably have to go through "proper channels" to do this. Obviously you wouldn't call the admissions office and say you would make a donation for an acceptance. Maybe find out who the board of trustees are for the school. I would estimate it would cost anywhere from a $100,000 to $1,000,000 to get a seat. Just a guess.
     
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    bump. This could get very interesting :D
     
  5. LizardKing

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    Isn't this known as BRIBERY?
     
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    No Lizard king,
    Its known as Donation <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  7. katiep

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    I've heard of someone whose father gave a huge donation to Duke, in the millions I think. The guy still didn't get in. Now that is justice! Duke apparently is notorious for not accepting donations.

    In my opinion, although the advantages of a donation (hire better professors, buy new equipment for labs, do better research, etc.) are attractive, they are not worth the trade off of taking on an individual without the right credentials and thereby releasing a sub-standard physician on the unsuspecting public.
     
  8. C U in MD school

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    ppl who donate money to medical schools are will known to the school. the schools have a department just for this kind of thing. they donate money and get dinners/meeting/parties/celebrations with deans and ect. now, if you want to get into med school this way, its not gonna happen overnight. ur parents would need to set up contacts, get to know the ppl and then after several years they can ask the dean for a "small favor."

    i meet one of these ppl once at a conference. i was wondering why everyone was kissing his ass, even the speakers. after i talked to ppl at the conference, i found out that he was donar. i was thinking at the time, man only if he was my dad... :)
     
  9. rxfudd

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by katiep:
    <strong> they are not worth the trade off of taking on an individual without the right credentials and thereby releasing a sub-standard physician on the unsuspecting public.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know if I'd go THAT far...do you really think an undergrad without the right credentials will be a sub-standard physician? And don't med schools do this ALL the time when they admit people who don't have the highest MCATs/GPA of their applicants? Or reject people with high MCATs/GPA because they don't "fit" in the class as the school would like?

    As much as none of us want to admit it, this is a very political process. Credentials are important, but it's still a quirky game that is played from the moment you send in your primary until the end of your interviews. Why do you think most private schools want to know if anyone in your family is an alumni of their institution. If your rich parents can afford to make a hefty donation, it may not help your cause, but it certainly can't hurt.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Roger Rabbit:
    <strong>Hey I heard that it is possible to get an acceptance at a Medical School my making a donation. Can anyone tell me if this is possible and if it is how one goes about doing this. I dont think that you can call the admissions committee and say you want to make a donation as long as you get an acceptance (or can you). How much do you think something like this would cost?
    Hey I'm thinking of every option right now.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please go to school in Chicago...

    I didn't apply to any of those schools...
     
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    Roger Rabbit, it's funny that you're from Chicago. I heard it used to be possible to get into Chicago Med (Finch) by donating money. It's "supposedly" not true anymore, but who can really tell for sure? That's one of the reasons Finch has such a sh!tty reputation. I think it would suit a person like you perfectly.

    One more thing, Roger Rabbit. On your profile, don't put your occupation as "Dr". The rest of us can see your profile too.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
    <strong>Please go to school in Chicago...

    I didn't apply to any of those schools...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no, don't go to school in chicago....those are the only ones i'm considering!
     
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    I don't think this is possible. It's clearly bribery. However, if you knwo someone on the adcom or a trustee then they could push for you but even still there's no guarantee.
     
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    Sure, just call up the admissions office, say you want ot speak to an admissions officer. THen proceed to tell them your AMCAS ID and SSN. Then cordially meniton you want to donate X amount of money provided you will be strongly considered. Then sit back and watch the acceptance come in the mail. So easy! :)

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Roger Rabbit:
    <strong>I dont think that you can call the admissions committee and say you want to make a donation as long as you get an acceptance (or can you). How much do you think something like this would cost?
    Hey I'm thinking of every option right now.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
     
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    hahahahahaha!

    It's not gonna happen Roger - unless they've been donating for a while and know the dean. You can't just slip a fifty in with your secondary and expect to have an edge.
     
  16. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dank:
    <strong>I think that it is possible to get into medical school with a donation, but I don't think just anyone with money can make the donation. You would probably have to go through "proper channels" to do this. Obviously you wouldn't call the admissions office and say you would make a donation for an acceptance. Maybe find out who the board of trustees are for the school. I would estimate it would cost anywhere from a $100,000 to $1,000,000 to get a seat. Just a guess.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it can't possibly be 100,000! it already costs around 120K to attend medical school....I'm guessing you have to make donations in the millions to get a seat :D
     
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    Definetly in the millions, if any sum of money would get you that far. There was mention that a director of admissions at a Florida school was fired because he offered someone an acceptance mainly because the applicant was filthy rich.
     
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    Yeah, it's MUCH easier to pay a million bucks to a med school than to work a little in school. Maybe I should ask my gramps to do it for me. That would go over well!

    <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />

    Are you going to pay everyone to overlook your flaws?
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WatchaMaCallit:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dank:
    <strong>I think that it is possible to get into medical school with a donation, but I don't think just anyone with money can make the donation. You would probably have to go through "proper channels" to do this. Obviously you wouldn't call the admissions office and say you would make a donation for an acceptance. Maybe find out who the board of trustees are for the school. I would estimate it would cost anywhere from a $100,000 to $1,000,000 to get a seat. Just a guess.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it can't possibly be 100,000! it already costs around 120K to attend medical school....I'm guessing you have to make donations in the millions to get a seat :D </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, $100,000 is nothing. I imagine that if your family can get a building named after them, you'd stand a better chance.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by rxfudd:
    <strong>Why do you think most private schools want to know if anyone in your family is an alumni of their institution. If your rich parents can afford to make a hefty donation, it may not help your cause, but it certainly can't hurt.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">rxfudd,

    I know for a fact (or as much of a fact as any such fact can be) that a study (which I haven't read) showed that students of alumni are more likely to give money back to the school if their parents also went to that school. I'm sure that's the reason, not because of potential donations.

    I also heard this from a physician who went to NYU several decades ago, and spoke to the dean about it. Therefore who knows how true that is for all med schools, but at least for many.
     
  21. imtiaz

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    if theyre more likely to give money back, doesnt that mean they are more likely to donate? i dont get it. the school still wants more money in the end? so donations are what theyre looking for?

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by katiep:
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Originally posted by katiep:
    rxfudd,

    I know for a fact (or as much of a fact as any such fact can be) that a study (which I haven't read) showed that students of alumni are more likely to give money back to the school if their parents also went to that school. I'm sure that's the reason, not because of potential donations. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But that IS about a potential donation then!! If they want to know who is son/daughter of an alumni because that person is more likely to give money back to the school, then they are directly inquiring about potential for a future donation.

    Furthermore, I was trying to establish that this whole process we are going through is not necessarily ALL about qualifications. The mere fact that they even ask who in your family is an alumni (whatever the reason is that they do this) shows this to be unfortunately true. Admissions directors are obviously concerned with qualifications, but it is certainly not the only factor they consider.
     
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    Well, there is a difference. I think it just has to do with that letter that comes in the mail once a year after you graduate with five checkboxes ranging from $100 to $500. You're more likely to check box 5 than 1. I don't think it has at all to do with the likelihood that your parents are going to give a huge donation because they accepted you, or because they are considering you.

    But in the end, I concede that you're both right, a donation is a donation. It really should not factor into their decision one bit. But, c'est la vie.
     

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