Is it true that DOs have a better chance in getting into EM programs because they can aplpy to both MD and DO EM programs?
soxman said:Is it true that DOs have a better chance in getting into EM programs because they can aplpy to both MD and DO EM programs?
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Maybe from the standpoint that the DO EM programs aren't as competitive as the allopathic programs. 1000 applicants versus 50-100 is a big difference. Many DO EM programs will "sign you outside the match." There are some great DO EM programs, and also some ones that are suspect. Don't ask which ones are suspect, as its been asked here many times on SDN and its something that YOU should decide yourself. Regardless, there are both pros and cons with MD and DO EM programs, so you should decide which one you want with your own criteria and not go into one or the other from what you hear on SDN.soxman said:Is it true that DOs have a better chance in getting into EM programs because they can aplpy to both MD and DO EM programs?
drsutter said:i've met many competent DO graduating from DO programs. They are fine. Beside, let's admit it, if you have common sense and decent understanding of human anatomy, it doesn't take a genius to be a good ER doctor.
drsutter said:I'm not starting a debate here. I am IM/EM trained and practicing EM only right now since graduated from residency. Perhap you would disagree, but if you know how to maintain airway, start a line, and keep your patient alive, you can be a decent ER doctor. Of course, this is just a very generalized statement. I take lots of pride in my work, but i do feel that IM is a tougher specialty than EM.
You are so on crack. It might be easier in general to geta DO residency, but when it comes to allopathic programs, it is harder for DOs than MDs. hands down. No way around it. You're smokin the good stuff, and I want to tell you to "puff puf give!"ElZorro said:Honestly, I think EM is perhaps a little easier to match into for DOs (compared to some other fields) because it is a newer speciality therefore doesn't have as old school an attitude. Generally EM PDs want good clinicians, and value people skills, work ethic, and ability to be a good team member over a diploma from an MD school.
DrQuinn said:You are so on crack. It might be easier in general to geta DO residency, but when it comes to allopathic programs, it is harder for DOs than MDs. hands down. No way around it. You're smokin the good stuff, and I want to tell you to "puff puf give!"
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bulgethetwine said:Q,
I don't think he meant that the program directors preferred, on the whole, DOs to MD; I think he was suggesting that PDs in EM have a higher proportion of DO-friendly attitudes -- thus more than another specialties consider individuals based on the other intangibles mentioned rather than starting out with a bias against the one who holds a DO.
At least, that's what I think he meant. Otherwise, you're right. He needs to invite us to 420 time.
drsutter said:I'm not starting a debate here. I am IM/EM trained and practicing EM only right now since graduated from residency. Perhap you would disagree, but if you know how to maintain airway, start a line, and keep your patient alive, you can be a decent ER doctor. Of course, this is just a very generalized statement. I take lots of pride in my work, but i do feel that IM is a tougher specialty than EM.
drsutter said:i've met many competent DO graduating from DO programs. They are fine. Beside, let's admit it, if you have common sense and decent understanding of human anatomy, it doesn't take a genius to be a good ER doctor.
Apollyon said:Wait a minute - if you are EM/IM trained (5 years), and 3 years out of residency, don't you know the answer to this already?