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Downstate dorms

Discussion in 'Medical Students - MD' started by me2, Jun 22, 2002.

  1. me2

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    I am still debating whether to move into dorms or stay at home (I live near Manhattan beach, which is about 45 min away by bus) and would appreciate some information from the students. I was assigned a single standard room and wanted to know how the accomodations are? Is it possible to leave after the first semester, as oppose to staying for the whole accademic year? Is the atmosphere conducive to studing or is it loud and chaotic like in undergrad? What are the pro and cons of Downstate dorm life? Is the area as bad as some say? Feel free to throw in additional comments.
    Thanks
     
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  3. silvercholla

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    I'm not a student at downstate but I have lived in the area for 27 years and I hope to get into Downstate (or NY medical schools in general). But it really burns my cookies when people say the neighborhood is really bad. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! <img border="0" alt="[Pity]" title="" src="graemlins/pity.gif" /> If you come from a small town in the middle of Maine then compared to that the neighboorhood is bad. If you are not from the west indies (where most of the people from the area originate) then what you see may frighten or intimidate you. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that East Flatbush is as safe as AnnArbor, Michigan but it's not South Central LA for creeps sake. I think that the people who say that the area is REALLLLLLY bad are speaking from the minimal experience that they have of a different cultural group. Look if you live in Brooklyn then save yourself the cost and just take the bus. But if for some other reason you have to live in the dorms then go and check it out for yourself. But take my advise keep an open mind when you go to investigate. The loud boisterous surrounding neighborhood is reflective of the rich culture that is Guyana, St Vincent, Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad, Barbados, Antigua, Haiti, St. Lucia, Aruba, St Thomas, The Gernadines, Dominica, and all of the others. Yeah it's not as safe as it could be but baby this is NYC. If you want quiet and serene go to Dartmouth but being a New Yorker yourself I think that you can probably handle it, hey we can handle anything. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />
     
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    Oh one more thing....
    The "Q" Train is near you, why don't you try taking that to Church Avenue. And then take the B35 to New York Avenue. That might cut down on your travelling time.
    And I nearly forgot....

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!! <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />
     
  5. BushBaby

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by silvercholla:
    <strong>I'm not a student at downstate but I have lived in the area for 27 years and I hope to get into Downstate (or NY medical schools in general). But it really burns my cookies when people say the neighborhood is really bad. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! <img border="0" alt="[Pity]" title="" src="graemlins/pity.gif" /> If you come from a small town in the middle of Maine then compared to that the neighboorhood is bad. If you are not from the west indies (where most of the people from the area originate) then what you see may frighten or intimidate you. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that East Flatbush is as safe as AnnArbor, Michigan but it's not South Central LA for creeps sake. I think that the people who say that the area is REALLLLLLY bad are speaking from the minimal experience that they have of a different cultural group. Look if you live in Brooklyn then save yourself the cost and just take the bus. But if for some other reason you have to live in the dorms then go and check it out for yourself. But take my advise keep an open mind when you go to investigate. The loud boisterous surrounding neighborhood is reflective of the rich culture that is Guyana, St Vincent, Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad, Barbados, Antigua, Haiti, St. Lucia, Aruba, St Thomas, The Gernadines, Dominica, and all of the others. Yeah it's not as safe as it could be but baby this is NYC. If you want quiet and serene go to Dartmouth but being a New Yorker yourself I think that you can probably handle it, hey we can handle anything. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's so true. I live in brooklyn for 13yrs and I've seen people (who come to interview at Downstate) give some very false impressions of the neighborhood. Like you said it's not all peachy and rosey but it's not that bad either.
     
  6. cleanscrubs

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    I still think that compared to other areas of nyc, flatbush is still a pretty bad area to live in. Maybe if the dorm was a luxurious apt. complex with a doorman and all the amenities and it was across the street from the school, then I would consider it but the dorms at downstate have communal bathrooms and most students share a room with another student. But you should definitely go see for yourself and formulate you own opinion.

    Good luck and Congrats!
     
  7. silvercholla

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cleanscrubs:
    <strong>I still think that compared to other areas of nyc, flatbush is still a pretty bad area to live in. Maybe if the dorm was a luxurious apt. complex with a doorman and all the amenities and it was across the street from the school, then I would consider it but the dorms at downstate have communal bathrooms and most students share a room with another student. But you should definitely go see for yourself and formulate you own opinion.

    Good luck and Congrats!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Other areas compared to where?!?!? Park Slope? There were five robberies in that area in the last month. How about Bay Ridge? One murder, two assults, and one attempted rape, maybe your talking about Canarsie, 4 gang related incidents in the past three weeks. Let's try red hook... can you say MAFIA? Or Bed Sty, don't forget to duck, And let's not forget East New York/Brownsville... baby if you go anywhere near there without a brick, a bullet proof vest and pray then let me say goodbye right now. And I know you are probably going to say or at least find out eventually, yes the 67th precinct is the busiest in brooklyn, but they are also smallest. And I am kind of curious where are you from?
    So compared to "other areas" East Flatbush ranks about the same as the rest of Crooklyn. And like I said before it depends on where you come from and what you grew up with.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by silvercholla:
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    Other areas compared to where?!?!? Park Slope? There were five robberies in that area in the last month. How about Bay Ridge? One murder, two assults, and one attempted rape, maybe your talking about Canarsie, 4 gang related incidents in the past three weeks. Let's try red hook... can you say MAFIA? Or Bed Sty, don't forget to duck, And let's not forget East New York/Brownsville... baby if you go anywhere near there without a brick, a bullet proof vest and pray then let me say goodbye right now. And I know you are probably going to say or at least find out eventually, yes the 67th precinct is the busiest in brooklyn, but they are also smallest. And I am kind of curious where are you from?
    So compared to "other areas" East Flatbush ranks about the same as the rest of Crooklyn. And like I said before it depends on where you come from and what you grew up with.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey I live in canarsieeeeee....we're not that bad :( .

    Red Hook is definately gangsta's paradise. I had a friend who lived there and I was WARNED by relatives and close friends to NOT GO VISIT. I commuted thru flatbush all 13 yrs I've been in NY and it's nothing. I think it's the fact that it's crowded (with a different blend of cultures/ethnicities) that scares most people off.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BushBaby:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>
    .</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey I live in canarsieeeeee....we're not that bad :( .

    I commuted thru flatbush all 13 yrs I've been in NY and it's nothing. I think it's the fact that it's crowded (with a different blend of cultures/ethnicities) that scares most people off.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">THANK YOU!!!!! :D
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BushBaby:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>
    .</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey I live in canarsieeeeee....we're not that bad :( .

    I commuted thru flatbush all 13 yrs I've been in NY and it's nothing. I think it's the fact that it's crowded (with a different blend of cultures/ethnicities) that scares most people off.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">THANK YOU!!!!! :D
     
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    Thanks to all for their replies.
    I am a native New Yorker myself, but I am not too familiar with the Flatbush area. I agree that Brooklyn is not the safest place to be, overall, but some neighborhoods are definitly better than others and this one is not one of its' best. But that is still not my primary concern. I would like to get some input about the dorms themselves, the facilities, and general comments on Downstate dorm life.
    Thanks again
     
  12. Harry Truman

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    FYI: Before one talks about crime statistics, he or she should do some research.

    1)http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cspbbs.pdf

    This page will show crime statistics for Brooklyn South. Brooklyn South is comprised of several southern police precincts (including the 67th and 68th) within Brooklyn, as compared to Brooklyn North which is comprised of several northern precints.

    As one can see from the year to date stats, there were 44 murders, 155 rapes, and 1,907 robberies reported so far this year in all of Brooklyn South.

    2)http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cs067pct.pdf

    This page will show crime statistics for the 67th precinct. SUNY Downstate is within this precinct. As one can see from the data, so far this year there were 12 murders, 29 rapes, amd 305 robberies reported in this precinct.

    3)http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cs068pct.pdf

    This page will show crime statistics for the 68th precinct. This precinct includes the Verrazano Narrows section of Bay Ridge, as well as some other Bay Ridge areas. As one can see from the data, there were a total of 1 murder, 4 rapes, and 65 robberies reported in this precinct so far this year.

    Based on this data, irregardless of precinct size, I don't know how one can say that Flatbush ranks about the same as the rest of "Crooklyn." Evidently, the facts beg to differ. I'm not saying Flatbush is the most dangerous place in Brooklyn, but it certainly isn't the safest.
     
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    If you look at mellowyellow's comments on crime in various parts of Brooklyn, it shows that flatbush can be a dangerous place to live compared to say, forest hills, queens or where SUNY Stonybrook is located in, for example. I am not saying that all of Brooklyn is bad. And I am not saying that all of queens is good since there are bad areas of queens as well.
    And I am not some sheltered person who has never left the house. I've lived in some pretty crappy areas in my life. I just wouldn't want to attend med school in a dangerous area. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my comments.
     

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