Drinking frat or smoking frat?

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Join a fratERNITY that is dedicated to creating well rounded men who are leaders, scholars, athletes, AND like to have a good time 👍

Don't join a fraternity that only parties...you will fail and will not do well in your classes...this is coming from someone who is Greek and has seen this 100 times
 
ichor said:
Smoking the ganja frat. They definitely each do both, but that's what each is known for.

I know this seems off topic, I don't want to mess with my college aspirations, so I want pre-med input.
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Por que no los dos?

But seriously, if you really want to join one, why not try to join one that is known for its academics and leadership.
 
ichor said:
Smoking the ganja frat. They definitely each do both, but that's what each is known for.

I know this seems off topic, I don't want to mess with my college aspirations, so I want pre-med input.
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They don't have frats in high school so you've got nothing to worry about. Have fun in 9th grade.
 
Just become a business major
 
I've never seen the appeal of greek life. I suppose it looks good on graduate/medical school applications, but couldn't you just half-ass participate in some sort of club and still accomplish your goal of increasing your competitiveness?

Or maybe you just WANT to do it because it seems fun. In that case I guess it is your life, but let me just say that although there is so much conflicting data on marijuana's effects on intelligence I would advise you do not do it just because of the old adage it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
I didn't have Greek life at my college but I wish that I had that opportunity. There are plenty of people who party (and even party hard) and still do well in school. Some of the most successful people I know get that way because they take a night off every once in a while and stop obsessing over their work/future/studying.

OP, you know yourself best. Will you make the most of the Greek experience or will it ruin you?
 
One Hip Guy said:
I've never seen the appeal of greek life. I suppose it looks good on graduate/medical school applications, but couldn't you just half-ass participate in some sort of club and still accomplish your goal of increasing your competitiveness?

Or maybe you just WANT to do it because it seems fun. In that case I guess it is your life, but let me just say that although there is so much conflicting data on marijuana's effects on intelligence I would advise you do not do it just because of the old adage it's better to be safe than sorry.
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I'm pretty sure greek life isn't about your med school application.

Also, what is wrong with you?
 
ChemEngMD said:
Join a fratERNITY that is dedicated to creating well rounded men who are leaders, scholars, athletes, AND like to have a good time 👍

Don't join a fraternity that only parties...you will fail and will not do well in your classes...this is coming from someone who is Greek and has seen this 100 times
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I find it funny that some frat-tastic people refuse to call them frats. I just laugh and shake my head. Of all things to get up on your high horse about...
 
One Hip Guy said:
I've never seen the appeal of greek life. I suppose it looks good on graduate/medical school applications, but couldn't you just half-ass participate in some sort of club and still accomplish your goal of increasing your competitiveness?

Or maybe you just WANT to do it because it seems fun. In that case I guess it is your life, but let me just say that although there is so much conflicting data on marijuana's effects on intelligence I would advise you do not do it just because of the old adage it's better to be safe than sorry.
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What does this have to do with Greeklife in general? It doesn't even seem relevant to the OP's question.
 
Instatewaiter said:
I find it funny that some frat-tastic people refuse to call them frats. I just laugh and shake my head. Of all things to get up on your high horse about...
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Most people don't really care. Anyone who freaks out about the abbreviated term doesn't get it. It's a frat.

There's an old saw about this: "You call your fraternity a frat? Well would you call your country a c___???"

Short answer: no, because unlike "frat", that word is a crude and offensive euphemism for the female genitalia. Shorter answer: you're an idiot.
 
Short answer, you all are probably GDIs and never got it. Join a fraternity otherwise you'll be like the other 97% of my class who thinks that 1 keg is a party, and you'll need to get netters to help you find the clitoris.

Fraternity life is the good life of college, unless you're a star athlete, and it teaches you how to put up with BS and get your stuff done. Definitely not for everyone, though.
 
BlueLabel said:
What does this have to do with Greeklife in general? It doesn't even seem relevant to the OP's question.
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Maybe I'm an idiot, but doesn't the OP say "drinking frat or smoking frat?"

How is it not relevant? The OP, it appears to me, is trying to choose between two frats who are notorious for two using two different substances, I just tried to give a word of advice. I suppose you could argue that OP didn't implicitly state he would be using these substances as well, but it was by no means irrelevant. It was a comment based on an inference.
 
One Hip Guy said:
Maybe I'm an idiot, but doesn't the OP say "drinking frat or smoking frat?"

How is it not relevant? The OP, it appears to me, is trying to choose between two frats who are notorious for two using two different substances, I just tried to give a word of advice. I suppose you could argue that OP didn't implicitly state he would be using these substances as well, but it was by no means irrelevant. It was a comment based on an inference.
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Ah, I thought you were speculating as to the possible appeal of greeklife, re: your first paragraph. I didn't think you were directly addressing the OP's question because you didn't say anything about alcohol, which he also mentioned. My bad.

Anyway the whole discussion is pointless (and likely just a lame troll attempt).
 
Trogghunter said:
Short answer, you all are probably GDIs and never got it. Join a fraternity otherwise you'll be like the other 97% of my class who thinks that 1 keg is a party, and you'll need to get netters to help you find the clitoris.

Fraternity life is the good life of college, unless you're a star athlete, and it teaches you how to put up with BS and get your stuff done. Definitely not for everyone, though.
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I don't think I could have ever entered a frat even if I tried haha. I don't think they would spend 1 second a nerdy dork 😛
 
BlueLabel said:
Ah, I thought you were speculating as to the possible appeal of greeklife, re: your first paragraph. I didn't think you were directly addressing the OP's question because you didn't say anything about alcohol, which he also mentioned. My bad.

Anyway the whole discussion is pointless (and likely just a lame troll attempt).
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Yeah, I suspect as much as well lol, but you never know.
 
trogghunter said:
short answer, you all are probably gdis and never got it. Join a fraternity otherwise you'll be like the other 97% of my class who thinks that 1 keg is a party, and you'll need to get netters to help you find the clitoris.

fraternity life is the good life of college, unless you're a star athlete, and it teaches you how to put up with bs and get your stuff done. Definitely not for everyone, though.
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+1

Find the group of guys that you get along with best and go with that. Why on earth would you ask SDN about this? Have you even spent time with both fraternities? The med schools you apply to sure as hell won't know all the greek stereotypes of your school.....

I'm not a big fan of calling out trolls but this definitely smells pretty bad.
 
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GandalfTheWhite said:
I'm a nerd.
And I'm also in a fraternity.
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😱

Interesting. I remember being told that you have to look a certain way in order for frats to even think about adding you when pledging. I wasn't really serious about it, but let's just say if I did join a frat, I'd stick out like a HUGE sore thumb in terms of appearance. Unless they accept people that look vastly different from them lol

Or maybe frats in other parts of the country are different.
 
KnuxNole said:
😱

Interesting. I remember being told that you have to look a certain way in order for frats to even think about adding you when pledging. I wasn't really serious about it, but let's just say if I did join a frat, I'd stick out like a HUGE sore thumb in terms of appearance. Unless they accept people that look vastly different from them lol

Or maybe frats in other parts of the country are different.
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Pledging is WHEN all the bad dressing habits (if they're there) are purged! It's more about personality, not dress code.
 
Womb Raider said:
Pledging is WHEN all the bad dressing habits (if they're there) are purged! It's more about personality, not dress code.
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Ahh I see. Interesting 😛

I could get along with people who like to kick back with a few beers and have fun at parties, as well as pickup sports and just goofing off. However, I guess what I meant is that I am the polar opposite of the white all american boy by a longshot. And that I was told in college that only people who have that look physical wise are worthy of trying to pledge.

But, like I said, maybe it was just the culture of the university. I imagine most places, it's about personality and brotherhood and all that jazz.
 
KnuxNole said:
😱

Interesting. I remember being told that you have to look a certain way in order for frats to even think about adding you when pledging. I wasn't really serious about it, but let's just say if I did join a frat, I'd stick out like a HUGE sore thumb in terms of appearance. Unless they accept people that look vastly different from them lol

Or maybe frats in other parts of the country are different.
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Watch the TV show called Greek. Its largely accurate.
 
+pissed+

Seriously? This is ridiculous. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.


Edit: Just realized that you just started school OP so I will actually answer your question instead of chastising you. The answer? No one cares. Seriously. If you want to blow a bone no one cares. If you want to get ****faced, you guessed it, no one cares. Recognize that both are illegal, and if you get caught you will get in trouble and it will hurt your goals, and there are some negative health effects to both (e.g. DUI). Otherwise, you are an adult now and can make your own choices. I would venture to say that a frat known for drinking and a frat known for stoners probably are both equally negative/not a big deal what so ever. Another suggestion would be to stop worrying about everything on here, and learn how to succeed in college while maturing a bit.

Best of luck,
SF
 
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KnuxNole said:
Ahh I see. Interesting 😛

I could get along with people who like to kick back with a few beers and have fun at parties, as well as pickup sports and just goofing off. However, I guess what I meant is that I am the polar opposite of the white all american boy by a longshot. And that I was told in college that only people who have that look physical wise are worthy of trying to pledge.

But, like I said, maybe it was just the culture of the university. I imagine most places, it's about personality and brotherhood and all that jazz.
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Agreed.

In my large state school joining a fraternity was pretty expensive for an average college kid. And the only people in them seem to upper-middle class preppy white kids. That and of course a token minority or a foreign guy which is what I would have been. But I am getting an idea that joining a fraternity in a school like CalTech would have been totally different experience.
 
SunsFun said:
Agreed.

In my large state school joining a fraternity was pretty expensive for an average college kid. And the only people in them seem to upper-middle class preppy white kids. That and of course a token minority or a foreign guy which is what I would have been. But I am getting an idea that joining a fraternity in a school like CalTech would have been totally different experience.
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CalTech doesn't have fraternities, they have "houses"... I only know because a friend of mine went there. It's definitely a very different experience from being in a Southern fraternity.
 
Keep on posting these high quality threads, OP, and maybe you'll be the new Columbia09.
 
And here I was about to waste even more time watching that show :laugh:
 
SamFujiyama said:
+pissed+

Seriously? This is ridiculous. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.


Edit: Just realized that you just started school OP so I will actually answer your question instead of chastising you. The answer? No one cares. Seriously. If you want to blow a bone no one cares. If you want to get ****faced, you guessed it, no one cares. Recognize that both are illegal, and if you get caught you will get in trouble and it will hurt your goals, and there are some negative health effects to both (e.g. DUI). Otherwise, you are an adult now and can make your own choices. I would venture to say that a frat known for drinking and a frat known for stoners probably are both equally negative/not a big deal what so ever. Another suggestion would be to stop worrying about everything on here, and learn how to succeed in college while maturing a bit.

Best of luck,
SF
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That sounds sexy. :naughty:

One Hip Guy said:
I've never seen the appeal of greek life. I suppose it looks good on graduate/medical school applications, but couldn't you just half-ass participate in some sort of club and still accomplish your goal of increasing your competitiveness?

Or maybe you just WANT to do it because it seems fun. In that case I guess it is your life, but let me just say that although there is so much conflicting data on marijuana's effects on intelligence I would advise you do not do it just because of the old adage it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Sources?

premedlol said:
I'd go with twerking frat
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Brilliant!
 
Trogghunter said:
Short answer, you all are probably GDIs and never got it. Join a fraternity otherwise you'll be like the other 97% of my class who thinks that 1 keg is a party, and you'll need to get netters to help you find the clitoris.

Fraternity life is the good life of college, unless you're a star athlete, and it teaches you how to put up with BS and get your stuff done. Definitely not for everyone, though.
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You sir, represent Greek life poorly.
 
I wonder if OP is southern or northern. Cuz southern greek life and northern greek life are 2 completely different beasts.

My spouse and I were both greeks and had awesome experiences. I was on exec, learned a lot about how to delegate, communicate with regionals nationals and our university. I also had a lot of chances to do volunteer work.

If you are going to join a fraternity to smoke or drink, don't. You can easily do that without letters.

Oh and the whole financial aspect, at least where I was at living in house was significantly cheaper than living in the dorms w/a meal plan.
 
touchpause13 said:
I wonder if OP is southern or northern. Cuz southern greek life and northern greek life are 2 completely different beasts.
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Agreed. But even then it definitely depends on the caliber of Greeklife at your school and that of the chapter you join.
 
My fraternity definitely would be considered a "party" house, but there was definitely a segment that also liked to smoke.

Any fraternity worth joining will not pressure you to do something that you do not want to do. Try to not succumb to peer pressure, OP.
 
dbeast said:
One Hip Guy said:
Or maybe you just WANT to do it because it seems fun. In that case I guess it is your life, but let me just say that although there is so much conflicting data on marijuana's effects on intelligence I would advise you do not do it just because of the old adage it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Sources?
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Some excerpts:

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Study members with more persistent cannabis dependence showed greater IQ decline.

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Across different areas of mental function, study members with more persistent cannabis dependence generally showed greater neuropsychological impairment. Inspection of the means suggests that the greatest impairments were for the domains of executive functioning and processing speed.

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Informant reports of study members' neuropsychological functioning were also obtained at age 38 y. Study members nominated people "who knew them well."These informants were mailed questionnaires and asked to complete a checklist, including whether the study members had problems with their attention and memory over the past year. Informants reported observing signi&#64257;cantly more attention and memory problems among those with more persistent cannabis dependence.

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....adolescentonset users showed greater IQ decline than adult-onset cannabis users.

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Thus, cessation of cannabis use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescentonset former persistent cannabis users.

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Collectively, these &#64257;ndings are consistent with speculation that cannabis use in adolescence, when the brain is undergoing critical development, may have neurotoxic effects.
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Womb Raider said:
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Some excerpts:
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I think the last sentence there is the most important one. What age period do they define as adolescent?

Is there any comparison for the average toker to the weekend drinker?

There are a lot of scare tactics out there for the prohibition of MJ, but thankfully more evidence based science is coming out in support of its therapeutic effects. A great friend of mine would be in near constant pain from Crohn's Disease if not for his illegal MJ. The "B" in the "ABC's" of medicine stands for beneficence. Is it morally/ethically right to give a patient one medication with many negative side effects while banning a medication that can diminish the pain with the only side effect of acting silly?

Either way both are illegal for underage citizens so from a legal/future physician it's a moot point.
 
HopefulReapp said:
Is it morally/ethically right to give a patient one medication with many negative side effects while banning a medication that can diminish the pain with the only side effect of acting silly?
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Acting silly isn't the only side effect for many people...
 
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