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Just wondering if anyone has any information on ELAM medical school in Havana, Cuba. My partner will be attending this fall and I admit, I am a bit skeptical. The program is to help students "relatively" young adults who would like to work in underserved communities attend medical at minimal or no costs. (It's a 6 year program)

I've looked up info about the school and can't find much more than what they've posted. I found a twitter post from this year, congratulating 15 US graduates on matching residencies. However, some of the graduates finished their studies several years ago? :eyebrow: I did find the name of one US graduate who works at a clinic in rural North Carolina also. I'm just curious as to how the other 200+ US ELAM physicians are doing. Wondering if anyone else has info on this school and the successes of US students? Any insight? It sounds too good to be true, but I could be wrong.


Here's their website if anyone wants more info on it.
http://medicc.org/ns/?page_id=353

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From all indications it's a pretty legit medical school, but not really geared towards placing physicians in US residencies. Go if you're okay with practicing in a Latin American country, otherwise don't.

Pragmatically, any non-stateside school is going to to a **** ton of difficulty matching, so their low US doc numbers aren't really that surprising.

It's not a scam if that's what you're asking.
 
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My god why in hell would you want to go to Cuba......
 

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I once showed my post-doc a really cool protocol I found in a paper that claimed to have superoptimized a very important protocol used in my research. The paper was from 3 yrs ago and she said, "It isn't true; don't waste your time trying it. If it worked as well as they say, it would already be the standard method used in the field."

Debt free medical school that easily gets grads back into the US....it would be more well-known and competitive if it really worked like that, imo. You will probably be worse off than someone from Ross (due to name recognition/history), but with a lot less debt
 
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My god why in hell would you want to go to Cuba......

The cigars.....

The Cuban education system, especially their medical education is quite reputable and has been for decades. Even though the US hasn't traded with Cuba in 50 years, the EU, Canada, all of SA has. And they have been very busy with their own medical technology. My gut feeling is I would trust Cuban schools over a large portion of the for-profit Carib schools

https://www.good.is/articles/cuba-medicine-doctors-normalization-cimavax
 
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Sounds like a great idea if you want to work in Cuba! Viva la revolución!


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"Che" Guevara, the famed revolutionary murdered by the CIA and a physician, did serve as Cuban Health Minister early in the revolution
 

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The cigars.....

The Cuban education system, especially their medical education is quite reputable and has been for decades. Even though the US hasn't traded with Cuba in 50 years, the EU, Canada, all of SA has. And they have been very busy with their own medical technology. My gut feeling is I would trust Cuban schools over a large portion of the for-profit Carib schools

https://www.good.is/articles/cuba-medicine-doctors-normalization-cimavax

my comment was coming from a Cuban-American. Obviously I am biased and have no desire to go back to that communist filled country that took my families livelihood at gun point; however, Cuba has always been known for educating phenomenal doctors (my grandfather went to medical school in Cuba). I also spent quite some time in Spain and met with a bunch of wonderful doctors from Cuba who had nothing but great things to say about the education (now everything else is a completely different story).
 

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Just wondering if anyone has any information on ELAM medical school in Havana, Cuba. My partner will be attending this fall and I admit, I am a bit skeptical. The program is to help students "relatively" young adults who would like to work in underserved communities attend medical at minimal or no costs. (It's a 6 year program)

I've looked up info about the school and can't find much more than what they've posted. I found a twitter post from this year, congratulating 15 US graduates on matching residencies. However, some of the graduates finished their studies several years ago? :eyebrow: I did find the name of one US graduate who works at a clinic in rural North Carolina also. I'm just curious as to how the other 200+ US ELAM physicians are doing. Wondering if anyone else has info on this school and the successes of US students? Any insight? It sounds too good to be true, but I could be wrong.


Here's their website if anyone wants more info on it.
http://medicc.org/ns/?page_id=353

Thanks
Look it up on YouTube. There's a video from a guy who studies there. Cuban doctors are known to be some of the best doctors. And this is not from a biased POV I'm not Cuban haha. The Cuban medical school ELAM provides a completely different way of teaching, in America it is competitive, there they try to encourage more team work. The elam program is geared towards lower income students, between ages 21-25 only. And the entire curriculum is taught in Spanish! So it'd be best to practice before going if you intend to, and they also provide a Spanish crash course while there. Yes that program is 6 years long, and the quality of living is a lot different than US. But I've heard it's worth it because of the principles the Cuban medical school instill in you. Also, it is an accredited school, so coming back to us to find work isnt a problem. They only ask that you work for poor communities in your own country where health care is needed. I was reading that it's different because there's student from all over the world that come to ELAM. So there's plenty diversity. I know this post is about a year old but for anyone who has thought about this, I'm gonna post anyways. Hope it helps someone!
 
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Look it up on YouTube. There's a video from a guy who studies there. Cuban doctors are known to be some of the best doctors. And this is not from a biased POV I'm not Cuban haha. The Cuban medical school ELAM provides a completely different way of teaching, in America it is competitive, there they try to encourage more team work. The elam program is geared towards lower income students, between ages 21-25 only. And the entire curriculum is taught in Spanish! So it'd be best to practice before going if you intend to, and they also provide a Spanish crash course while there. Yes that program is 6 years long, and the quality of living is a lot different than US. But I've heard it's worth it because of the principles the Cuban medical school instill in you. Also, it is an accredited school, so coming back to us to find work isnt a problem. They only ask that you work for poor communities in your own country where health care is needed. I was reading that it's different because there's student from all over the world that come to ELAM. So there's plenty diversity. I know this post is about a year old but for anyone who has thought about this, I'm gonna post anyways. Hope it helps someone!

That isnt quite telling the correct story. It is accredited but not by the American LCME but by another outside organization. Therefore, it has no weight in the US. graduates from here would have to submit to the ECGFM and NRMP in order to obtain a US residency, which is required to practice in the United States. The only data I could find quickly on this shows that in 2013 all 15 US Citizens who came went to Cuban Medical Schools all failed to match into family medicine. There is no other mention of Cuba in the overall data, which means less than 50 US -IMGs applied in total. Additionally, I do not know the administrative issues from US State Department and Homeland Security as there are still limits on US Citizens in Cuba. Attached is review article about school which may have more success now than from below data


PS: Last year (2016) , 15 students did match. I dont have Citizenship info nor do I have how many applied for residency to compare (see https://ifconews.org/2016/04/18/15-elam-graduates-matched-with-residency-programs-this-year/)

www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NRMP-and-ECFMG-Publish-Charting-Outcomes-in-the-Match-for-International-Medical-Graduates-Revised.PDF-File.pdf#page=77
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Go to school in the country where you want to practice medicine.


Go to school in the country where you want to practice medicine.



Go to school in the country where you want to practice medicine.

but also viva la revolucion

 
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