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employment for unlicensed dds?

Discussion in 'Dental' started by johndds, Nov 3, 2002.

  1. johndds

    johndds Junior Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I'm going to be graduating from dental school this december and will not be getting my license for another 6 months or so. Does anybody know of any job opportunities for dentists with a DDS without a license? Anything is fine so long as it is a position for a dentist. I am in dire need of this..and it has to do with my girlfriends parents allowing me propose. They are two seriously scary people so It is rather urgent.

    thanks,
    John
     
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  3. doctorsquared

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    Dental claims reviewer for insurance company. You could easily do the work if you are trained. The problem is that they are not going to want to hire you for six months. They may require a license too.

    Retired and disabled dentist frequently work selling practices, managing practices (handling the business side.), financial consultants, or dental supply salesman. Experience is necessary as a dentist for all of these positions.

    I worked outside of dentistry between the time I graduated and the time I got licensed. I think it was a huge mistake. I would have been much better off in a dental practice working as a assistant. I could have learned the business, made friends and learned from a seasoned doctor about how to deal with the human side of dentistry. Marriage can wait unless your my age and want children.

    Jonathan S. Berns, DDS (husband of doctor sqared)
     
  4. johndds

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    doctersquared,

    Thank you for responding to my post. I have a few questions. First of all, what did you do in between the time you graduated and got your license?

    I am interested in doing the insurance review job, but I had absolutley no idea where to begin. If I were to go this route, I would be willing to do it more than just six month. If I could get a job in the San Antonio area, than I would have no problem doing this work for a while. I have to stay in San Antonio for three years as girlfriend has gotten into the prosthodontics program there (she is also a dentist!!). That is why I want to get married before then.

    If you could give me ANY helpful hints on how to get a job in the insurance field. Also...Do you think that they would be willing to hire me, with the understanding that I would get my license?

    I have other questions but I don't want to flood you with too many ...so I'll wait for your reply.

    thanks in advance
     
  5. doctorsquared

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    I did a bunch of temporary jobs mostly for large companies using my undergrad degree.

    I worked as a lab technician in biology and food science and worked as a research information specialist for a pharmaceutical company. Most of these jobs I got through temporary agencies like Manpower. Although the jobs were fun and paid better than dental assisting, I would have been better off in dentistry. I let my emotions get in my way, I didn't want to be in a dental office unless I was practicing. My life was very difficult back then.

    Contact the insurance companies directly. Try a google search to find them: :confused: dental+insurance+company+Texas. I know that Delta of MI and OH advertised recently here. I would also look at the advertisements in the JADA and especially in the state journal (here it's Journal of the Michigan Dental Association). My state also has a list of job opportunities sent out once a month for a fee. The work is verifying that the dentistry was done or is covered by contract. For example if a claim was sent in for a root canal #18, Post + core #18, Bridge 18-20. You may check to see if the patient was eligible for coverage, was the work was actually done, and whether the insurance contract covered the bridge since #19 was extracted before the contract was in force(preexisiting condition) and #30 is also missing (bilaterally missing teeth). You might advise per contract that the least expensive alternative treatment is a Partial Lower and that payment will be for a partial lower and not a bridge.

    You may also want to look into the Army, Navy, Air Force and reserves. I don't know what they require. Maybe a license from one state??? but not necessarily the state you are working in. They usually have a two year commitment. The reserves are one weekend a month and two weeks a year. You would get called up when we go to war with Iraq but you will be stateside. The work is very easy--mostly dental screenings.

    I'm sorry I didn't think of this earlier.

    :cool: What about a residency program that is school based or even teaching in a dental school. A residency program is fair to good experience. Many times they will have unexpected midyear opening due to illness, pregnancy, etc. You may not care about pedo or geriatric but it is still practicing dentistry. You may not need a license. (check into it)

    I hope that helps.
     
  6. liltwinstr

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    JohnDDS,
    Did you go to school at the UTHSC?

    If so, how did you like their program?
     
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    any idea how much u can earn when u start as faculty in a university
     
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    You may be able to find that out, by browsing the listings on higherdedjobs.com.
     
  9. doctorsquared

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    I graduated from Northwestern University Dental School in 1987.
    I think that an inexperienced dentist would get part time faculty positions. If he has special qualifications he may be able to get a full time teaching position. Most part time positions pay less than you would get as a new associate. A part timer (2000 grad) I know says that she gets more money per hour from her associate positions and that is why she dropped teaching. Also full time faculty salaries are much lower that the average dentist salary. Usually new part timers know someone on faculty and are recommended due to high achievement. I applied locally for a full time faculty position at U of M and never even got a response. I have heard that there are many open positions in every dental school and that they cannot find dentists to fill them... but I think they mean with dentists that are academically "qualified." A few of the people I graduated with became part time faculty at NUDS. One I know got an advanced degree and did research as a full time faculty member.
     
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    thanx guys, i have got in PG MSD , was thinking if i will be able to take care of loans while working as a FACULTY.. sO FAR I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CALCULATE NUMBERS AS TO HOW MUCH REALLY A FULL TIME FACULTY MAKES.. WELL I HOPE SOME FACULTY MEMBER READ IT AND HELP ME OUT:)
     
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    All of those options hold a lot of promise. Now I want to talk specific numbers. Actually, I should say ballpark numbers. What kind of money are we talking about when we talk about a Claims reviewer? And what about part time faculty?

    The faculty idea appeals to me, especially if I could get do it in the San Antonio Area, that would be fantastic.

    Docter Squared, if you have any contacts in the insurance industry that could help me out, please let me know. My email is [email protected]

    Thanks,

    John
     
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    John,

    Did you get my e-mail? If not E-mail me at [email protected] and I will try again.

    Jon
     
  13. johndds

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    DocterSquared, you have mail!!! I didn't receive your email, so I've written you so that you can reply.

    john
     

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