Every now and then, psych just blows you away...

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Can't stop smiling when I think of this one--despite all the crap I've put up from other patients this week.

Two weeks ago on call I picked up what looked like your basic drug-induced psychosis. 28 y/o, acting weird at the Mission, talking nonsense...then becoming unresponsive (though VSs stable) after admission. I'm thinking "this looks like catatonia", but he didn't respond to benzo challenges. No idea what, if any, past history he had. Clean urine toxicology. The next day he's posturing with absolutely classic waxy flexibility. Two days with not eating or drinking, starting to look dehydrated, we placed an NG tube (which he didn't resist in the least) for hydration and nutrition. Got a neuro consult for an LP which was of course negative.

Finally located some parents and got some history--had bad meth use two years ago, but they were sure he was clean. Had been very depressed, isolated, but he'd been avoiding any suggestion that he see someone and was on no meds. They were resistant to the idea of ECT, but after some research on their own they decided it was the right treatment for him in his current state, and didn't oppose us when we went to get a court order (since he couldn't consent).

All last week we're waiting to go to court. Everyday I see the guy and say hello, get nothing more than maybe a brief turn of the head. He finally decided after 4 days that he'd had enough of the NG, and pulled it out, but was at least chewing on some bread and taking enough fluids on his own to stay alive. Thursday I got pulled out to testify (courtroom is in our hospital, but it's still pretty rare that they expect us in person) and we were able to convince the judge that ECT was the best option. Of course I believed it--had plenty of literature, a tiny bit of experience--but when a judge and two attorneys are grilling you, with concerned parents looking on, well, you just cross your fingers! So we got the order, gave the first treatment Friday--not much change.

Monday am he had the second treatment. I pop in to see him on rounds--he's sitting up on the bed feeding himself Cheetos from a styrofoam cup. Ask him how he's feeling, as usual. "I can't remember a damn thing!", he says. My jaw just about hits the floor, and the NA is laughing at me. I tell him that it's great to hear him talk, since he hasn't said anything in two weeks--and now his eyes get big. "Two weeks? You've got to be kidding me!". Ask him what the date is--no idea. I tell him it's July 13. "You're s--tting me!"

Today he's reading the paper, trying to figure out what he missed. Still has no idea how he got there, but lucid as heck, smiling, talking to other patients, eating his full tray. My social worker said that his father broke down sobbing on the phone when he heard. What a Great Day. Seriously--I can't think of another thing I've seen in the last five years that's been so dramatic. Everyone on the unit is just delighted. Even the other patients were overheard talking to each other yesterday--"Did you see J__? He's talking!" One day to sit back and enjoy a little bit of success.

(BTW--thank you Max Fink and Michael Taylor for this Most Excellent Book. I was SO glad I read it before having to testify in the court hearing to get an order to administer ECT.)

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That is just friggin' AWESOME. This job really is simply amazing sometimes. :D
 
There was a quote from M*A*S*H psychiatrist, Sydney Friedman, speaking to the surgeons:
When Pierce and Hunnicutt lose one, he's out of his misery.
When I lose one, I've lost a mind.

When we get the honor of saving one, it's fantastic.
GREAT JOB!
 
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Thanks for sharing this classic psychiatric success story.My I ask about the previous Psychiatric hx and current dx.
 
That's great! I keep on hearing from people in other fields that I'll never see improvement in my patients if I go into psych, and it's always good to hear that's not true. Of course, I know it's not true because it doesn't mesh with what I've already seen on rotations, but it still seems to be what the non-psych people think. Anyway, good job.
 
Well done OPD.
 
So, did he admit to using meth?
 
We don't have any evidence that he did at all, and are proceeding on the assumption that he didn't.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did you end up figuring out what was wrong with him in the first place?

If he wasn't doing meth, then how could something like this happen to someone?
 
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did you end up figuring out what was wrong with him in the first place?

If he wasn't doing meth, then how could something like this happen to someone?

Yes, I'd like to know also.
 
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did you end up figuring out what was wrong with him in the first place?

If he wasn't doing meth, then how could something like this happen to someone?

We're thinking it was the culmination of a long, untreated slide into psychotic depression, possibly exacerbated by long-term effects of his past meth use (though that's hardly necessary). Schizophrenia is obviously another differential, but he's practically "normal" after a few ECTs, which we would not expect in that case.
 
Thanks for the learning experience.:thumbup:
 
what's the difference between catatonia and conversion?
 
That's great! I keep on hearing from people in other fields that I'll never see improvement in my patients if I go into psych, and it's always good to hear that's not true. Of course, I know it's not true because it doesn't mesh with what I've already seen on rotations, but it still seems to be what the non-psych people think. Anyway, good job.

what's funny is that Psych was usually the field that I saw people improve more apparently compared to other fields (save maybe surgery) when I was in med school. But if someone's not familiar with something they'll just fill in the blanks for themselves.

btw, are you from OK?

also, great great story OPD.
 
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I treat mostly autistic children. About once a week after arranging specialized education, ABA, meds, and other accommodations I hear a parent say "doctor, he called me mommy for the first time" it makes the hassles worth it.


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