Family doctors: An endangered breed... What do you think?

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Found this article. What do you think?

A few interesting excerpts:

"A specialist can earn $500,000 or more a year and work 20 hours a week versus a family doctor who earns on average $120,000 a year and works more than 60 hours a week," said Weiner. :eek:

"That's why only the most committed pursue primary care. Kudos to them," said Jonathan Weiner, professor of health policy and management at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore. :confused:

"Primary care physicians are considered to not do as much as specialists," Manriquez said. "People have told me that generalists are less respected as doctors."

In the past 10 years, 90% of medical school graduates have opted to enter higher-paid sub-specialties like orthopedic surgery, radiology and dermatology. Only 10% have chosen primary care, according to the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP).

This trend has fueled a growing shortage of primary care doctors in the United States. "On the eve of (health care) reform, we have a very real primary care crisis," said Dr. Ted Epperly, president of AAFP.

"Information technology is at the heart of any long-term solution," he said. One way to expand the capacity of Medicare care is to encourage doctors to communicate with patients via telephone and e-mail, he said.

For his part, Johns Hopkins' Weiner said policy makers have to come up smarter solutions than just creating more doctors. "The idea that we need more doctors is not so simple. Studies have shown that more doctors doesn't mean better quality of care," he said. :claps:
 
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I don't know who this "Weiner" guy is, but he needs to study a little bit more at a respectable school that teaches real facts. ;) (he's a JHop School of Public Health guy)

The first two quotes are particularly ridiculous. Whatever specialty that is, and whatever practice that is, I want in! To take an extreme case and compare it against an average is just bad. "Basketball players (named LeBron) can make millions and millions, while soccer players (on average) only play pick-up games with their friends!

The second is equally stupid. Sure, those who commit to 6-7 years of some specialty residency are slackers. They probably couldn't get into any primary care specialties... that's probably why. :rolleyes:
 

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I don't know who this "Weiner" guy is, but he needs to study a little bit more at a respectable school that teaches real facts. ;) (he's a JHop School of Public Health guy)

The first two quotes are particularly ridiculous. Whatever specialty that is, and whatever practice that is, I want in! To take an extreme case and compare it against an average is just bad. "Basketball players (named LeBron) can make millions and millions, while soccer players (on average) only play pick-up games with their friends!

The second is equally stupid. Sure, those who commit to 6-7 years of some specialty residency are slackers. They probably couldn't get into any primary care specialties... that's probably why. :rolleyes:
:thumbup: Agree. I can prove anything in the world as long as I can alter the data and reality to fit my point (the "Matrix" theory of argument).

That said, it's possible that family doctors are going to become a rarer breed. I know that, for one, Who Killed Healthcare? imagined that the future would be more dominated by teams of specialists working in compliment. That said, there are always going to need to be some gatekeepers that will get people to the correct specialist (or home, if they don't need treatment), so the family doc still has some life left in him.
 

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This article is complete bogus. I can't believe they posted it in CNN, it looks like something that would have been published in my high school newspaper.
 

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This article is complete bogus. I can't believe they posted it in CNN, it looks like something that would have been published in my high school newspaper.
I'm surprised as well. CNN is usually fairly objective and delivers quality news.
 

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I don't know who this "Weiner" guy is, but he needs to study a little bit more at a respectable school that teaches real facts. ;) (he's a JHop School of Public Health guy)

The first two quotes are particularly ridiculous. Whatever specialty that is, and whatever practice that is, I want in! To take an extreme case and compare it against an average is just bad. "Basketball players (named LeBron) can make millions and millions, while soccer players (on average) only play pick-up games with their friends!

The second is equally stupid. Sure, those who commit to 6-7 years of some specialty residency are slackers. They probably couldn't get into any primary care specialties... that's probably why. :rolleyes:

Only those who are truly committed to PRIMARY CARE...not medicine in general.

With the exception of a few quotes, there isn't anything there that is totally off-base.
 

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Only those who are truly committed to PRIMARY CARE...not medicine in general.

With the exception of a few quotes, there isn't anything there that is totally off-base.
Those few are very very off base. Enough so that the article is severely misinformed or intentionally misleading.
 

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Those few are very very off base. Enough so that the article is severely misinformed or intentionally misleading.
The first- about making 50,000 dollars working 20 hrs is pretty rediculous. I didn't really see anything wrong with anything else. The orginal point is still pretty solid- that there's a pretty big shortage of students going into primary care.