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Hey Guys,

To all those that have attended interviews, correct me If I'm wrong, guys usually only wear BLACK suits right?. I'm not one to follow "traditional standards", but I think formality needs be strictly adhered to in this scenario and I don't think pharm school interviews are an occasion to necessarily express myself.

In other words, was every single guy at that interview wearing a black suit?

THANKS :)
 
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No, you do not have to wear a black suit. In fact, if you want to stand out I would go for a dark grey suit or a navy suit. If you still want to stand out more than go for brown shoes. If not go with black shoes. But, do not wear a cardigan with a button up shirt and chinos. I am thinking of going with navy suit with light blue shirt and red tie. I almost forgot! Pocket squares!! Use them :clap:
 
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Whatever you choose to wear just make sure you pull it off! I think pharmacy schools want people that know how to dress professionally that can represent their school. Boring and "traditional" may not be the best for you!
 
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From what I've seen so far black is actually in the minority. Personally, I got a dark grey suit because it can be used for more occasions than a black suit can and I want to get my moneys worth out of it
 
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at some places, black suit can represent of dead (like funeral), boring. You are correct.
 
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As an interviewer, I do not see black suits as boring. In actuality they are very professional when worn correctly. That being said, a navy suit or business gray suit works very well. People overestimate the positive effect that the way you dress affects your interview. It can have a profound negative effect. If you screw something up in the way you dress I am much more likely to notice the way you dress. I have seen belts that didn't match, bold shirts and ties that didn't go well together, poorly worn pocket squares, shoes that did not go with the suit (style or condition), and many other mistakes from guys.

At the end of the day, I need to be able to associate you with your resume because that is what is in front of me when we rank you. The most I am going to note about the way you dressed is "professional" or "unprofessional." Other interviews may care more, but I guarantee we don't discuss who pulled off the bright shirt and light gray suit at the end.
 
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As an interviewer, I do not see black suits as boring. In actuality they are very professional when worn correctly. That being said, a navy suit or business gray suit works very well. People overestimate the positive effect that the way you dress affects your interview. It can have a profound negative effect. If you screw something up in the way you dress I am much more likely to notice the way you dress. I have seen belts that didn't match, bold shirts and ties that didn't go well together, poorly worn pocket squares, shoes that did not go with the suit (style or condition), and many other mistakes from guys.

At the end of the day, I need to be able to associate you with your resume because that is what is in front of me when we rank you. The most I am going to note about the way you dressed is "professional" or "unprofessional." Other interviews may care more, but I guarantee we don't discuss who pulled off the bright shirt and light gray suit at the end.
I agree with your above statements but not all of them. I feel that a way you dress plays a critical role in the interview process. For instance, if I were dressed how I would like to dress it would have the biggest affect in my confidence that day. Compared to if I were to wear a plain suit I would feel average and not as confident. Then again it all depends on the person. When I picked a suit combination I didn't even have the interviewers in mind. I picked what I liked and what would give me the most amount of confidence going into it (while still looking professional). So for the people still deciding on what to wear...just wear something you choose to wear and not what you think they want you to wear. Just be professional about it.
 

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I agree with your above statements but not all of them. I feel that a way you dress plays a critical role in the interview process. For instance, if I were dressed how I would like to dress it would have the biggest affect in my confidence that day. Compared to if I were to wear a plain suit I would feel average and not as confident. Then again it all depends on the person. When I picked a suit combination I didn't even have the interviewers in mind. I picked what I liked and what would give me the most amount of confidence going into it (while still looking professional). So for the people still deciding on what to wear...just wear something you choose to wear and not what you think they want you to wear. Just be professional about it.
I never meant to imply that how you dress might not impact the way you present yourself. It is your presentation of yourself that interviewers care about, not so much exactly how you dress. Some, however, might be uncomfortable in ANY suit and it would probably be bad advice to tell these people they should dress to stand out.

Your reasoning stands true, unless you pick a shirt and tie combination that is distracting for example. The reason most people dress conservatively is that dressing to stand out is usually a high risk, low reward scenario.
 
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Black is playing it safe, a navy or nice grey suit just looks much nicer and has more personality than the typical black. Throw in a nice pair of burgundy or brown shoes and your good to go
 
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I didn't even go with a traditional suit, just a nice dress shirt (picked Navy) and some brown pants + nice shoes.
 
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any tips for the ladies attire? im thinking black pants, with light grey button up top/shirt tucked in, black blazer and black leather shoes..
 
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WOW. I am so surprised I actually recieved positive responses. I thought most people would say
As an interviewer, I do not see black suits as boring. In actuality they are very professional when worn correctly. That being said, a navy suit or business gray suit works very well. People overestimate the positive effect that the way you dress affects your interview. It can have a profound negative effect. If you screw something up in the way you dress I am much more likely to notice the way you dress. I have seen belts that didn't match, bold shirts and ties that didn't go well together, poorly worn pocket squares, shoes that did not go with the suit (style or condition), and many other mistakes from guys.

At the end of the day, I need to be able to associate you with your resume because that is what is in front of me when we rank you. The most I am going to note about the way you dressed is "professional" or "unprofessional." Other interviews may care more, but I guarantee we don't discuss who pulled off the bright shirt and light gray suit at the end.
Absolutely! I appreciate the response. Yeah trust me, I know all about the impact of "first impressions"…. cognitively speaking of course. We humans are such magnificient creatures. Within a 1/10 of a second, we automatically make subconscious judgements about someone new and spend the rest of the time validating our intial pre-concieved notions.

Thanks to years of evolution, consistency amongst our cognitions is of significant importance. You ever wonder why nobody wins an argument? Exactly. Each person has their own view and both individuals "believe" they're right.
 
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any tips for the ladies attire? im thinking black pants, with light grey button up top/shirt tucked in, black blazer and black leather shoes..
Yeah. It's better to overdress than underdress. Wear the best thing you got ^_^
 
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Black is playing it safe, a navy or nice grey suit just looks much nicer and has more personality than the typical black. Throw in a nice pair of burgundy or brown shoes and your good to go
Love the response. I'm definitely going GQ on this one.
 

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I didn't even go with a traditional suit, just a nice dress shirt (picked Navy) and some brown pants + nice shoes.
I am sure you interviewed well, but this would have been a major negative for me as an interviewer. It would have been the wrong way to start an interview with me.
 
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I am sure you interviewed well, but this would have been a major negative for me as an interviewer. It would have been the wrong way to start an interview with me.
Goal is to look professional, while a suit is all and all a professional attire, there are many other ways to dress professionally. Also to note, I interviewed in Houston (was roughly 85+ outside with relative humidity of 90%, so it was common sense to not overdress for that type of weather).
 

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Goal is to look professional, while a suit is all and all a professional attire, there are many other ways to dress professionally. Also to note, I interviewed in Houston (was roughly 85+ outside with relative humidity of 90%, so it was common sense to not overdress for that type of weather).
While, this may have been acceptable at the place you interviewed at, I was trying to make a point. Professional dress is very dependent on the setting and the expectations of those around you. "Professional dress" for my daily job doesn't even include a tie. Professional dress for my friend who works for a law firm in town is a suit nicer than any I own.

I think that a good rule of thumb for interview dress is to dress one step nicer than the dress code at the job you want, up to wearing a very nice suit (don't wear a tux to interview at a suit job). As most colleges of pharmacy consider professional dress for their male students to be a dress shirt and tie, the next step up is a decent black, blue, or gray suit.'

Again, you may have interviewed very well. I have certainly recommended people for acceptance who I thought needed a lesson in interview dress (men and women). However, for most students at most institutions, foregoing the suit would be a risk not worth taking.
 
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does the black suit have to be buttoned up for males?
if you have a two button suit then only button the top one. If you have the three button suit then button the top one and middle one. if you are standing up/ walking have your suit buttoned. if you are sitting down have it unbuttoned.
 
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Is it still count as business formal if I unbutton the suit but just button up the vest underneath? Are vests even allowed?