fellowship salary

Discussion in 'Emergency Medicine' started by quinsy, Jun 7, 2007.

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  1. quinsy

    quinsy 5+ Year Member

    Nov 24, 2006
    SDN Author

    I am having a bit of a disagreement with my significant other, hoping you can help me clear it up.

    If you do a fellowship from EM, does it basically pay at R4/R5 whatever rates? I tried to search the archives and found some people saying that maybe for ultrasound you could get paid more.

    I honestly don't care how much I get paid, I want to do a fellowship because it will be doing what I love. But the argument is why do a fellowship if it adds nothing to your marketability, we have too much in loans to waste time on fellowships. (because it's what I want to do with my life!) but hey. I guess I should at least know what I'm getting into, and I cannot seem to find this info by searching the web.
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  3. Dr.McNinja

    Dr.McNinja Nobel War Prize Winner SDN Moderator 10+ Year Member

    Aug 2, 2006
    Some of them pay close to 80K, from what I have seen. However, it is still less than an attending salary.
  4. BadVB750

    BadVB750 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    I was thinking about this the other day and started wondering if you could moonlight as an attending (while in fellowship)? If you could moonlight and you were getting paid pretty well as a fellow, then life could be pretty sweet.
  5. NinerNiner999

    NinerNiner999 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 4, 2003
    Where it's at.
    Base salary is around R4/5 at most places. Moonlighting allows for significant income in addition to that. $120-150k per year is reasonable depending on the required clinical hours for your fellowship (when you work, you don't make an hourly rate unless you are moonlighting). ACEP suggests no more than 800 clinical hours per year during fellowship. Remember, though, you will be doing much non-clinical work/research as well...
  6. shaggybill

    shaggybill 10+ Year Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    The Sunny South
    How much does having a Fellowship add to your total salary, after all is said and done? I'm thinking toxicology specifically.
  7. BadVB750

    BadVB750 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    I don't think it would really add much at all, in fact you might make less since you will probably be working in academics.
  8. Apollyon

    Apollyon Screw the GST Lifetime Donor 10+ Year Member

    Nov 24, 2002
    Some places where you are a fellow, you are paid as an R4 or R5 - and that ain't much. Others, you're paid at "1/2 attending" level - somewhere, roughly, around $60K-$80K, but you're also working reduced time in the ED as an attending (usually 1 shift/week, but not usually more than 6/block) to make up some of that money.
  9. deuist

    deuist Stealthfully Sarcastic Lifetime Donor 10+ Year Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Air Force
    Yale's ultrasound program pays around $120,000.
  10. Seaglass

    Seaglass Quantum Member 10+ Year Member

    Jul 25, 2003
    Winston Salem, NC
    The answer is that it varies widely but tends to fall into either an R4/5 level with added moonlighting pay or the 1/2 attending scheme Apollyon described.
  11. BADMD

    BADMD 10+ Year Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    For most EM trained Toxicologists, being fellowship trained adds little to nothing to the salary. It does, however, make it easier to get academic jobs and you may get protected research time and other non-monetary benefits.

    The salary for my fellowship next year is PGY-4 plus I'm attending in the ED 40-60 hours a month, depending on my fellowship schedule.
  12. OK....I'm doing a fellowship in U/S. :laugh:

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