female med students and dating

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In terms of dating, I've read on some other threads that unless you want a guy to leave you alone, you don't tell them you're a medical student. How would you avoid mentioning that? It seems like one of the first things people ask about each other:

"So what do you do?"

"I'm a student"

"Cool, what do you study?"

"uh...."

 

[KyGrlDr2B]

That's only going to happen if the guy is lacking in the intelligence department himself. If he's at least half way smart, he won't care if his gf is smart. I know of plenty of girls in my class that have gone on dates with people outside of med/dental/etc school and they don't seem to mind it. As long as you are attractive to the guy he probably won't care.

 

[Penguin Poptart]

If he's at least half way smart, he won't care if his gf is smart.

Would it be horrible to suppose that a guy with a "full brain" would actually seek smartness in a girlfriend?


Or are we just to take comfort in supposing that all men are really insecure and shallow and women will be ok as long as they work out their butts.

 

[Chianti]

Most of the girls in my class are self-proclaimed "feminists" and are total bitches. No guy in his right mind would want to put up with the crap they spew.

 

[kissit]

i think most guys would be stoked to date a med student. i.e. "my girlfriend is hot and in med school...one day she'll support me." it's like winning the lottery.

 

[Chianti]

There are hardly any good-looking chicks in med school. A hot girl with brains would've been smart enough to found a rich guy to take care of her.

 

[Bounty]

Originally posted by Chianti
There are hardly any good-looking chicks in med school. A hot girl with brains would've been smart enough to found a rich guy to take care of her.

wow.🙄

 

[Chianti]

You claim to be hot and are in med school? I don't believe it.

 

[kissit]

not worth the flames.

 

[KyGrlDr2B]

Originally posted by Penguin Poptart
Would it be horrible to suppose that a guy with a "full brain" would actually seek smartness in a girlfriend?


Or are we just to take comfort in supposing that all men are really insecure and shallow and women will be ok as long as they work out their butts.

😕

I said at least half a brain...meaning as long as he isn't totally ******ed he won't care if his gf is smart. If he is totally stupid then he won't like it. I'm not sure what you are implying I said, but I meant that most guys shouldn't care.

Chianti, I'm hot and in med school 😉 and there is no way I'm letting a rich guy take care of me. But really, I think there are several girls in my class who qualify as very attractive.

 

[DrMom]

Originally posted by Chianti
Most of the girls in my class are self-proclaimed "feminists" and are total bitches. No guy in his right mind would want to put up with the crap they spew.

Sounds like you chose the wrong med school. 😉

 

[Febrifuge]

Originally posted by Chianti
Most of the girls in my class are self-proclaimed "feminists" and are total bitches. No guy in his right mind would want to put up with the crap they spew.

Dude... this may bend your brain a little, but I'm a feminist, and I'm a guy, and for a year or so, I dated a med student who was most definitely hot. With a little luck, in a couple of years I will also be a hot med student. So there's a whole circle-of-life thing going on.

You'll find bitchiness in every population of students. Also clueless butthead-ism. Also broad overgeneralization. Also barely-submerged hostility. (I'm sure we all get the idea...)

 

[Fastidious]

From personal experience:
Blind date, after he told me that he is going to a dental school...
-- "So, what do you do?"
-- "I am going to a medical school."
-- after a pause "Well, I think, for a woman PA is more than enough!"
-- "Huh?"
I have never seen the guy since...

Fastidious.

P.S. I can't believe I went to a blind date

 

[Febrifuge]

I second that "huh?" When I found out my now-ex was a med student, I was fascinated. Then I was pumped. Eventually, I was thinkin' I'd make a nice Mr. Mom.

I just don't understand that sexist mentality. Hot, smart, well-paid woman. It doesn't take a genius to be into that idea.

 

[sacrament]

Originally posted by Chianti
There are hardly any good-looking chicks in med school. A hot girl with brains would've been smart enough to found a rich guy to take care of her.

My class is living proof that hot girls are in med school. From the very first day I was struck by the fact that the "average attractiveness" of our class is well above the national average. Course, it ain't do me any good. 😡

 

[Jalby]

Originally posted by Chianti
There are hardly any good-looking chicks in med school. A hot girl with brains would've been smart enough to found a rich guy to take care of her.

I'll side with guy just a little bit. My version of the quote:

The pretty people had better things to do in high school and college than study.

That being said, the girls at my school are a lot hotter than I thought they would be.

 

[Weil-Felix]

"Well, I think, for a woman PA is more than enough!"
[/B]

Holy mother of god. I think I would have smacked that guy over the head with my hot pink handbag, then kicked him in the nads with my stiletto heels. And then taken a taxi home.

 

[nirvana23]

Originally posted by KyGrlDr2B
That's only going to happen if the guy is lacking in the intelligence department himself. If he's at least half way smart, he won't care if his gf is smart. I know of plenty of girls in my class that have gone on dates with people outside of med/dental/etc school and they don't seem to mind it. As long as you are attractive to the guy he probably won't care.

My fiance is a corporate attorney making 100K+ a year, and I'm just a lowly labtech making 25K a year. As a guy, do I feel threatened in my relationship? I would be lying if I said 'no.' Then again, maybe I'm okay with my situation because I'm going to med school in August, but that's not the point.

I think all guys have some degree of pride in them to be more successful than their significant others. Those who tell you otherwise are lying.

Back me up here, guys.

 

[Penguin Poptart]

KyGrlDr2B ---
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I was reacting to the idea that a smart woman should be reassured by the concept that a guy wiht half a brain would be willing to overlook her intelligence.
Call me crazy but it would seem to me that smartness is not only NOT a liability, but a strength, a desired quality.... and I don't think too many smart women would want to be with a guy who "didn't care that they were smart." If I were a woman🙂 and some guy didn't care that I wsa smart, I'd be outta there.


Nirvana23--the point is, this woman IS your fiance, so even if you are slightly threatened you've been able to deal with it, and you apparently choose her over others.

 

[Flip]

Normally I take the path with the most resistance, really, I'm a pig, ask anyone who visits the lounge. But in this case, I gotta tell ya, I've dated a few of the chicks at my medical school and its been all good. They are generally challenging, which is a must for me, typically fun, and almost always little acrobats in the sack. I know what you're thinking, pms and sleep deprivation don't mix, but, I'm here to tell you, its all pink on the inside boys. Give it a whirl.

 

[mongoose]

Originally posted by KyGrlDr2B
[BChianti, I'm hot and in med school 😉 and there is no way I'm letting a rich guy take care of me. But really, I think there are several girls in my class who qualify as very attractive. [/B]

I can positively confirm both of these points. KyGrl is definitely hot and she is definitely in med school.

And, yes, there are quite a few damn good lookin' chicks in our class. I admit I was rather surpised by the overall hotness quotient of the chicks in our class. I was expeting nerdy, ugly chicks but got a pleasant surprise instead.

 

[carrigallen]

Originally posted by sacrament
My class is living proof that hot girls are in med school. From the very first day I was struck by the fact that the "average attractiveness" of our class is well above the national average. Course, it ain't do me any good. 😡

i can confirm this. 😀 Overall, I don't think the physical qualities of med students are that different from undergraduate students.

 

[pcl]

Originally posted by kissit
i think most guys would be stoked to date a med student. i.e. "my girlfriend is hot and in med school...one day she'll support me." it's like winning the lottery.

This is basically the conversation that my bf and I had recently. He is really happy that I will be a doctor that he feels he can do what he really wants to do, go back to school to be a teacher and coach, and our family will be okay financially. And I love that idea too.

Previous bf's haven't been so supportive, which is why I'm keeping this one.

🙂

 

[mongoose]

in regards to KyGrl, did I mention she has an impeccable sense of style as well? and a pretty cool boyfriend too. the only other guy in our class that loves cars as much as i do as far as i can tell. and can actually carry on a conversation about the functional and technical aspects of one as well which is nice.

 

[pathstudent]

it is interesting to note that over 95% of American women marry and have kids.

Only 65% of American women MDs marry and have kids.

However 95% of American men MDs marry and have kids.

These stats are from Iseserson's "getting into residency" which is full of all kind of stats.

 

[womansurg]

Originally posted by Chianti
Most of the girls in my class are self-proclaimed "feminists" and are total bitches. No guy in his right mind would want to put up with the crap they spew.

Do you suppose that the obsessive compulsive, egocentric types who excel enough to get into medical school are just sort of dinguses to begin with (case in point - yours truly), and that it is independent of gender?

Takes a little bit of deductive reasoning to get there, champ. Give it a try.

 

[womansurg]

Originally posted by pcl
This is basically the conversation that my bf and I had recently. He is really happy that I will be a doctor that he feels he can do what he really wants to do, go back to school to be a teacher and coach, and our family will be okay financially.

My husband and I have completely combined finances - which he manages being that he holds a CPA and being that I'm not interested in much besides operating all day. So, we both work hard, love our jobs, decide together about any major purchases, but don't think about or care what proportion of our income comes from which person. That seems to work well for us.

 

[KyGrlDr2B]

Originally posted by mongoose
in regards to KyGrl, did I mention she has an impeccable sense of style as well? and a pretty cool boyfriend too. the only other guy in our class that loves cars as much as i do as far as i can tell. and can actually carry on a conversation about the functional and technical aspects of one as well which is nice.

😳

I don't know why all the compliments, but thanks. Have a nice holiday, mongoose.

 

[Biodude]

Hey there, Chianti, I think that womansurg has a point. With that said, even though I'm still a lowly pre-med, I've met some very nice and kind female med students while shadowing an attending physician at a medical center that teaches med students and residents.

I can also understand what you mean by the self-proclaimed feminists, though, because I've had my share, and it's not unique to female med students, though I'm not surprised that they would be like that. Most feminists I've met are very level-headed and truly want equal treatment between the sexes.

On the other hand, I have met women who blame men for pretty much anything and everything bad ("guilty until proven innocent"...*cough*RickiLake*hack*). Now those types, definitely no man in his right mind would want to date them...except maybe a masochist. Oh well, those womens' loss...they sure ain't gonna find long-lasting marriages (again, unless they find masochists) 😀

 

[fava]

Originally posted by pathstudent
it is interesting to note that over 95% of American women marry and have kids.

Only 65% of American women MDs marry and have kids.

However 95% of American men MDs marry and have kids.

These stats are from Iseserson's "getting into residency" which is full of all kind of stats.

i highly doubt, though, that this is because female doctors are not attractive enough to marry, as it seems you might be implying

 

[Biodude]

Yeah, I notice those stats, but I don't see how they would correlate with women MD's being unattractive.

Besides, I think that the 65% thing is due to the demanding work hours of medicine. It's quite difficult and requires a lot of commitment to be able to set time aside for the kiddies when you have to work such horrendous hours.

That's my opinion on the matter...

 

[cmz]

There are plenty of attractive women in med school. In my case, I just have to look over to UT Houston to find them 😉

 

[deez4life]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

[doctor7]

first of all, let me say that you ladies have just exposed yourselves way too much by even bringing up a topic like this. so, let me extend a warm apology before i begin. i'm sorry, but this is the way it is.

scoping out chicks in medical school is almost as bad as trying to find a hottie in the engineering PhD department. (and no one disputes that the later effort is enormous) It is an undisputable fact that physical attractiveness is inversely related to intelligence. Sure, there are plenty of outliers...and, granted, intelligence does add to overall attractiveness. but you need to play the numbers when seeking physical attractiveness, and they don't look good...at any medical school.

but let's stop f-in' around for a moment and realize what happens to guys psychologically as we enter medical school from undergrad...the first thing you do is realize that the decent looking med school chicks are far and few between. really far, and really few. however (over the next few years), all you get to see are corpses (ugly), sick people (mostly ugly), professors (mostly crusty), med guys (ugly, unless you swing that way) and these med school ladies (not as ugly). pretty soon, they start looking a little better...but that's all relative to your generally unattrative surroundings. and then you have ******s coming on webforums and using rediculous words like "hot" to describe the ladies in their medical school. what the hell are you smoking buddy? go visit an undergrad campus for a day and see what you've been missing. only then will the beer goggles of medical education come off.

not to start a fight or anything...but some of you dudes need to put those detachable testicles back on.

as for Flip...it may all be pink on the inside, but (unless all you do is meet in the dark and f) you still have to stare at the outside all day...and there's no need for that kind of brutality.

 

[MacGyver]

Originally posted by Biodude
Most feminists I've met are very level-headed and truly want equal treatment between the sexes.

Well yes and no. They like their little equality spiel until it comes down to the privileges that women have against men (for example, being forced to sign up for selective service)

when it comes to those matters, liberal feminists ARENT AT ALL interested in equality

 

[MacGyver]

Originally posted by doctor7
scoping out chicks in medical school is almost as bad as trying to find a hottie in the engineering PhD department. (and no one disputes that the later effort is enormous)

i disagree... med school women are not as hot as their undergrad quotient, but you are taking it to the extreme here.

I'd say in engineering departments, there are less than 1 in 20 of the students are good-looking women.

In med school, its probably more like 1 in 5 or something

engineering PhD is the most "ugly woman" environment thats ever existed... well maybe except for women's softball with those butch steroid pumping heifers

 

[Foxxy Cleopatra]

Originally posted by ColoradoCCT
This thread makes me want to hurl. I can't believe there are still people who believe that smart women are ugly. Could you be more insecure?

Extremely well-put!

To the guys who think the women in medicine are siginificiantly less attractive than their non-medical counterparts because "smart people tend to be less attractive," shouldn't the same hold true for men?

Just kidding... I've found that there are all sorts of people in medical school and I didn't think they were any more or less attractive than people outside of medicine.

I do think there is a bit of a different standard (and it's not the fault of male medical students), but how many women out there heard things growing up along the lines of "wouldn't it be nice to marry a doctor?" How many men have heard the same? I doubt many. Power and intelligence aren't qualities that society stereotypes as attractive for women.

I had tons of male friends in medical school, though I did notice that many of the women that they married were nothing like me- mostly women who wanted to stay at home, take care of the house, and raise a family. I also thought that guys (even ones that were not particularly attractive) had a fairly easy time acquiring "trophy" wives- incredibly well-off/pretty women who were very impressed with the fact these guys are going to be doctors.

On the other hand, I've noticed some men I've met seem put off when I tell them that I am in medicine. Guess it's not as easy for us to get "trophy" husbands!

Just my 2 cents.

 

[mfleur]

I have to say that I definitly think things go both ways. Never would I go cruising for guys in a medical school, they just don't look like male models. Plus, I have no interest in marrying a doctor. Lets face it, most of us just don't have time to spend hours in the gym each day or go to the spa once a week.

 

[mongoose]

I was just thinking about this thread in general and had a couple of comments. First, to the tool that posted a few posts up saying that med women should never be called hot: get a clue buddy. if you ever see the inside of a med school you just may change your mind. in regards to the idea brought up several times in this thread that male doctors want a woman that stays at home, looks really pretty, and has no goals of her own: i don't buy it. i know lots of guys like that, but i also know lots of guys not like that. sure there are xy docs that want a trophy wife with no real goals, but i think they are the minority. of the folks in our class that are married (myself included) the vast majority have wives that have a professional career of their own. I know that there are several of the married dudes in our class with wives who are teachers (seemingly the most popular choice of married med students based on a sample of our class), some whose wives are grad students, and a few more who have wives in other professional careers. I only know about 2 or 3 with wives who work at jobs that don't require some level of education above and beyond high school. maybe it is time to change our collective ideas about med students in general.

beyond that, i'd like to say i have found this thread particularly entertaining. i grew up in a household where my mother earned more than my father for the biggest part of my formative years. my dad never felt threatened by it as far as i could tell and i can remember many times he would tell his friends and family how proud he was of her for being so smart and so successful. i guess having him to set such a positive example has made me a better person for it.

 

[labangel]

Originally posted by mfleur
I have to say that I definitly think things go both ways. Never would I go cruising for guys in a medical school, they just don't look like male models. Plus, I have no interest in marrying a doctor. Lets face it, most of us just don't have time to spend hours in the gym each day or go to the spa once a week.

I definitely have to agree with this one...I especially find this thread funny because the girls in my class are WAY more attractive than the guys. Not sure what happened there

 

[Foxxy Cleopatra]

Originally posted by ColoradoCCT
Whats really funny is that these guys assume that we'd be interested in them. I have no particular desire to marry a doctor or anyone with a "status" profession. The only women that are really interested in arrogant self-important wankers are those who cannot acquire that kind of status or money on their own. And lets be honest about this: if a man will marry you because you have a tight ass or because you give his ego a much needed
boost, what happens when you've popped out a couple kids and your skin starts to wrinkle? Well then its time to trade you in for a newer model of course. Maybe its that a woman smart enough to be a physician wouldn't fall for that game?

The other thing I find interesting is that some people can't grasp the idea that people find a relatively wide range of appearances attractive. I dated a guy who could not find blonde women attractive and would only date brunettes. I have a friend that adores women that are taller then him, one that loves full-
figured women and one that likes girls with dredlocks. Some men like straight hair and some like curly, some like white women and some prefer black women....I mean what unifocal world do you people live in???

I totally agree- what one person finds too fat another describes as voluptuous, stick skinny to one may be dainty and hot to another. In other words; there is a huge range of what people find attractive.

I definitely have a resident from my 3rd year days whose face comes to mind when you say "arrogant, self-important wankers." Yet this work of nastiness still was able to get dates!

To mongoose- I like your outlook on all of this. We need more men of your type in medicine!

I'll tell you, it was tough for me as a single women in some ways once I started medical school (in terms of dating.) The men you meet and are constantly exposed to are either through the classroom or at the hospital. Though, I was in a town that I never lived prior to medical school so almost all of my friends/social contacts were classmates. I would have dated someone not in medicine, but by proximity, it seems like almost everyone I dated was someone I meet through class or the hospital. It's hard to get away from it!

 

[Biodude]

Originally posted by MacGyver
Well yes and no. They like their little equality spiel until it comes down to the privileges that women have against men (for example, being forced to sign up for selective service)

when it comes to those matters, liberal feminists ARENT AT ALL interested in equality

Yo, MacGyver, you obviously didn't read my entire post before responding, because I had that part in about liberal feminists, dude 🙄 I'm not naive, you know. Next time, please do the courteous thing and actually read the ENTIRE post before responding.

That is all.

 

[Samoa]

Most of the female residents I know are married. And not to other doctors. So I think that 65% statistic is heavily skewed by the social realities of decades past.

Over my teenage and adult lifetime, I've observed a huge change in men's attitudes toward women who are smart and/or make more money than they do. I don't think that's a problem anymore at all. If anything, there's a need to be on guard against becoming some deadbeat slacker's meal ticket. And I have yet to date a guy who's smarter than me--and not for lack of looking. It's true that some men are uncomfortable with the fact that very little gets past me, when I'm paying attention to their behavior. However, it's usually because they're trying to deceive me in some way. So that doesn't really count.

But differences in professional STATUS are a different story. It's difficult for me to handle being an allied health professional who can only suggest and persuade, never decide. And as a female, I've theoretically been socially conditioned to feel comfortable in a role with little power or status. I honestly don't know how relationships where the woman has a higher status profession survive.

I'm aware that I made a choice not to sacrifice my professional goals in pursuit of a husband. But it's possible that I've sacrificed one or more potential husbands in pursuit of my professional goals. But we can only choose among the options presented us, and I still hope one day to find a guy who's comfortable with my career AND everything about me that led me to choose it. Where I'm going to find such a guy, I have no idea.

 

[MacGyver]

Originally posted by Biodude
Yo, MacGyver, you obviously didn't read my entire post before responding, because I had that part in about liberal feminists, dude 🙄 I'm not naive, you know. Next time, please do the courteous thing and actually read the ENTIRE post before responding.

That is all.

wow I must have really struck a nerve here for you to bump this back up to the top

 

[doctor7]

Originally posted by mongoose
First, to the tool that posted a few posts up saying that med women should never be called hot: get a clue buddy. if you ever see the inside of a med school you just may change your mind.

i grew up in a household where my mother earned more than my father for the biggest part of my formative years. my dad never felt threatened by it as far as i could tell and i can remember many times he would tell his friends and family how proud he was of her for being so smart and so successful. i guess having him to set such a positive example has made me a better person for it.

Ok, buddy...maybe we just have a difference of opinion...because you were raised to be a snatch.

How many medical schools have you attended? That's right, and so have I....plus a few visits here and there from the days of interviewing, seeing friends and such. Considering the schools are radomly dispersed, I'd say I have a decent random sample to go on. I "see the inside of a med school" every friggin' day and it kills me.

Let me clarify a few things...notice the difference:
1. There is a hot girl in my medical school.
2. The girls in my med school are hot.

Although #1 might possibly be true, number #2 requires that at least 25% (and i'm being lenient) of the chicks in your class be hot...and is obviously false.

The girls in medical school are not hot, and I'll be willing to concede that they ratio better than the engineering PhDs...but 1 out of 5? maybe for not bad looking...but hot, i'd stick with 1/50.

 

[pillowhead]

Originally posted by doctor7

Although #1 might possibly be true, number #2 requires that at least 25% (and i'm being lenient) of the chicks in your class be hot...and is obviously false.

The girls in medical school are not hot, and I'll be willing to concede that they ratio better than the engineering PhDs...but 1 out of 5? maybe for not bad looking...but hot, i'd stick with 1/50.

Maybe that's true, but who gives a rat's ass? The only place where one's hotness quotient matters more than any other trait is at a strip joint or a singles bar. Other than that, I'd much rather have classmates who are considerate, passionate about what they do, friendly, and interesting than classmates that are just hot. This thread is so inane it's ridiculous! People who act like jerks always get less attractive over time and people who have good personalities always become more attractive over time. And as others have previously mentioned, one person's Venus is another's Medusa. To go on and on about medical school and whether or not its female students initially make you want to jump in the sack is not only pointless, it's quite insulting to those of us female students who would rather be judged by the content of our character than by our looks (and no, I'm not an ugly dog...I just think it's ridiculous that in the twenty first century women are still first described in terms of their physical beauty and only then in terms of their intelligence and character).

 

[pathstudent]

dude, there are some many super hot asian, indian and persian girls at most private schools. it is insane. plus there are always a few hot "american" girls.

the reasons girls might have a hard time in med school are their expectations and personalities.

 

[mongoose]

Originally posted by doctor7
Ok, buddy...maybe we just have a difference of opinion...because you were raised to be a snatch.

How many medical schools have you attended? That's right, and so have I....plus a few visits here and there from the days of interviewing, seeing friends and such. Considering the schools are radomly dispersed, I'd say I have a decent random sample to go on. I "see the inside of a med school" every friggin' day and it kills me.

Let me clarify a few things...notice the difference:
1. There is a hot girl in my medical school.
2. The girls in my med school are hot.

Although #1 might possibly be true, number #2 requires that at least 25% (and i'm being lenient) of the chicks in your class be hot...and is obviously false.

The girls in medical school are not hot, and I'll be willing to concede that they ratio better than the engineering PhDs...but 1 out of 5? maybe for not bad looking...but hot, i'd stick with 1/50.

good to see you know so much about my school. thanx for enlightening me.

i find it funny that because my father had the utmost respect for my mother and women in general that i was somehow raised to be a snatch. i would have never known had you not told me. thanx, you have changed my outlook on life forever.

and oh by the way. i'd definitely say at least 25% of the girls in our class are hot. probably more like half.

 

[duramaterdoc]

Right on Samoa! Good luck at Tulane (I'm a former grad). There are a lot of attractive men and women in medical school and residency. I have found that more men are unattractive by virtue of their attitudes....which happen to be very similar to those on this post. This is funny, though. Sound like some of you guys have been rejected by smart, pretty girls once too many!

Originally posted by Samoa
Most of the female residents I know are married. And not to other doctors. So I think that 65% statistic is heavily skewed by the social realities of decades past.

Over my teenage and adult lifetime, I've observed a huge change in men's attitudes toward women who are smart and/or make more money than they do. I don't think that's a problem anymore at all. If anything, there's a need to be on guard against becoming some deadbeat slacker's meal ticket. And I have yet to date a guy who's smarter than me--and not for lack of looking. It's true that some men are uncomfortable with the fact that very little gets past me, when I'm paying attention to their behavior. However, it's usually because they're trying to deceive me in some way. So that doesn't really count.

But differences in professional STATUS are a different story. It's difficult for me to handle being an allied health professional who can only suggest and persuade, never decide. And as a female, I've theoretically been socially conditioned to feel comfortable in a role with little power or status. I honestly don't know how relationships where the woman has a higher status profession survive.

I'm aware that I made a choice not to sacrifice my professional goals in pursuit of a husband. But it's possible that I've sacrificed one or more potential husbands in pursuit of my professional goals. But we can only choose among the options presented us, and I still hope one day to find a guy who's comfortable with my career AND everything about me that led me to choose it. Where I'm going to find such a guy, I have no idea.

 

[subee]

Originally posted by Foxxy Cleopatra
I totally agree- what one person finds too fat another describes as voluptuous, stick skinny to one may be dainty and hot to another. In other words; there is a huge range of what people find attractive.

I definitely have a resident from my 3rd year days whose face comes to mind when you say "arrogant, self-important wankers." Yet this work of nastiness still was able to get dates!

To mongoose- I like your outlook on all of this. We need more men of your type in medicine!

I'll tell you, it was tough for me as a single women in some ways once I started medical school (in terms of dating.) The men you meet and are constantly exposed to are either through the classroom or at the hospital. Though, I was in a town that I never lived prior to medical school so almost all of my friends/social contacts were classmates. I would have dated someone not in medicine, but by proximity, it seems like almost everyone I dated was someone I meet through class or the hospital. It's hard to get away from it!

I've heard a lot of advice to avoid dating people in your classes and work environment. How did it work for you?