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Fewer Premeds

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by snowballz, Feb 26, 2002.

  1. snowballz

    snowballz Senior Member
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    I'm still in my introductory courses, but I've noticed ALOT fewer premeds over the last year or so I've been in college. I am in an introductory bio 102 course. Out of 30 or so people, onlhy 3 are premed! Most are predent, pre-pharm (I've noticed a TON of these) pre-chiro..but not many premeds. Most are just taking bio because they actually want to be a scientist too!

    Anyone else noticed this trend?

    Alicia
     
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  3. Cerberus

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    Thats strange I don't think any of biology majors at my school are NOT premed. Just craziness, where do you go?
     
  4. snowballz

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    I'm at Purdue U. Indianapolis campus..I really notice alot fewer premeds quite honestly. Maybe it's just my school...

    Alicia
     
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    It seems that after the freshman year many premeds change their minds, so that may have something to do with it. The first week of school half the people are premed.
     
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    I don't know if you just wanted info about your particular school or all schools.

    It seemed like EVERYONE here (at Vanderbilt) was a pre-med freshman year. Our weed-out intro biology class seemed to reduce that number drastically, as did the other core sciences. Right now there are a very small number of people actually going through the application/interview process.

    I think this is pretty typical, I know at some schools they tell the freshmen premeds, look to the person on your left, then look to the person on your right, only one of you will get into medical school.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hallm_7:
    <strong>It seems that after the freshman year many premeds change their minds, so that may have something to do with it. The first week of school half the people are premed.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's true. I run into several people after their freshman year and ask how things are going. Half the time, they tell me that they changed their minds about the pre-med thing. They usually have this wise, satisfied, and peaceful look on their faces, as though they know something they're not telling me.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PatDaddy:
    <strong>I know at some schools they tell the freshmen premeds, look to the person on your left, then look to the person on your right, only one of you will get into medical school.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WOW! that's awesome! 50% of freshmen that start-out as pre-med eventually get into med school? That's a great record. At my school I'd guess that only about 15% of people that start out as pre-med ever even apply to med school.
     
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    I think it's 1 in 3: look to your left & right, only one of you 3...

    I love that comment about non-premeds having that look about knowing something we don't know. <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
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    that look is probably the same as passing a kidney stone. painful when it happened, but much better afterwards.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Schoolboy:
    <strong>is there a way to delete a post? i made this one by accident</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The last icon in the line after the date posted is the "Edit/Delete Post" button. Chose the "Delete Post" option. :)
     
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    Thanks Jamier2! Never noticed that option until now. :p
     
  13. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PatDaddy:
    <strong>I don't know if you just wanted info about your particular school or all schools.

    It seemed like EVERYONE here (at Vanderbilt) was a pre-med freshman year. Our weed-out intro biology class seemed to reduce that number drastically, as did the other core sciences. Right now there are a very small number of people actually going through the application/interview process.

    Or people may just change their mind for something that may be even more difficult. A friend of mine left pre-med to get her doctorate in physical chemistry.

    I think this is pretty typical, I know at some schools they tell the freshmen premeds, look to the person on your left, then look to the person on your right, only one of you will get into medical school.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or people may just change their mind for something that may be even more difficult. A friend of mine left pre-med because she decided to get her doctorate in physical chemistry.

    The pre-med coursework is not that difficult.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by lemarck_2000:
    <strong>
    Or people may just change their mind for something that may be even more difficult. A friend of mine left pre-med because she decided to get her doctorate in physical chemistry.

    The pre-med coursework is not that difficult.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have to agree. But I think the problem (and it's a serious problem) is that the pre-med curriculum has been hyped out of proportion. It's really funny to see chemistry majors dread the day they'll eventually have to take biochem :confused: or biology majors whine endlessly about physiology. c'mon! what can be more easy and more fun than physiology. But if all one hears from friends, classmates, and people that have been through the process is that physiology is hardcore; then the person will not only believe it's hardcore, but also feel the class is unbearably difficult when they take it. Anyway, I'm just babbling.
     
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    Snowballz...I actually did most of my undergrad at IUPUI (10 years ago) and I went to PT school there...THEN i went to med school. People change their minds often, and rightfully so. Medicine is a big choice and EXTREMELY competative.
    Plus, I think if you look at the cross-sectional population of IUPUI then you could see you get different students then say IUB or PU. That may explain alot...it is a commuter (how do you spell that?) campus.
    Pre-chiro? Eh..get a C+ and you are in.
     
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    Another thing that I have noticed is that several premeds come into undergrad not knowing how selective and competitive med school is. When the truth finally gets out that you need to get an A in most of your classes, many change their mind because they aren't willing to work that hard or they don't believe they can do it. Also, early on, many are only going into medicine for the money, which is pretty attractive. Everyone knows that doctors are very well off. However, as students get older, they realize money isn't everything, and that the career you choose needs to be one which you would love to do no matter what the pay was.
     
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    Also add to the fact most students are getting lazy and just don't feel like putting in the years. The pay off doesn't seem that grand anymore to some. This is what I hear from most students who change their mind. "It's just too much school."&lt;---I've heard MANY say this. They hear it's going to be many years of hardwork and back out. Understandable..but I don't think anything would stop me from becoming a physician.

    Yes, IUPUI may be a commuter college, but that doesn't make it an easy school by any means. Since the degrees are given by Purdue or IU, they have to meet the standards of those institutions.

    Alicia
     
  18. Again, people could be changing their minds for something even more challenging. A doctorate in mathematics, physical chemistry, geophysics, etc. Usually people don't even attempt these fields unless they are really really good at these subjects.

    A doctorate program involves coursework, teaching, research (many times with principal investigators that want you to work almost full-time), and studying for comprehensive exams. Once the exams are passed, you continue teaching, doing research, and now you begin working on your dissertation.

    med student and former phd student
     

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