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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Tweetie_bird, Feb 3, 2002.

  1. Tweetie_bird

    Tweetie_bird 7+ Year Member

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    ok, so I SERIOUSLY need some honest opinions. I took this test and felt like I did well on the verbal and Bio Sci (well, except for the part where I had to GUESS on one passage in each section since I ran out of time). I am very disappointed with my performance, esp with the amount of studying I have put in already. What could I be doing wrong??

    7/8/8 was my pathetic score.
    I went up from a 5/7/7. DOES THAT SUCK OR WHAT? I just need to know that others were/are in the same boat, and actually redeemed themselves. If you feel like you may inspire me a bit, please...do so. I desperately need it right now.

    With a weeping heart, :rolleyes:
    Tweetie
     
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  3. Jessica

    Jessica Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Don't fret Tweetie!! There is still plenty of time to improve your MCAT score. Just think of it like training for a marathon, you want to peak on the big day. All of this is just training for the real thing, and since you are still in the early stages of training, be satisfied with the fact that you are improving. I started out with an 12-6-7 on the Kaplan diag. and ended up with an 11-12-14 on the real thing. Just keep focused on the big picture, you did better, not worse!! Keep up the studying and taking practice tests, your time and effort will surely pay off as you become more confident and familiar with the MCAT.
     
  4. Mossjoh

    Mossjoh Mayo Clinic-PGY2 10+ Year Member

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    The first Kaplan full length exam was pretty hard for those who were taking it at my Kaplan Center. Physical Science gave us the most trouble.
    Honestly though, the scores factored in the difficulty. The Kaplan scores were comparable to my real MCAT score.
    I think I went up one point.

    Let me know if you need some help

    Mossjoh
     
  5. Doctora Foxy

    Doctora Foxy Meow 7+ Year Member

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    Hey Tweetie I sent you a PM
     
  6. UCLA2000

    UCLA2000 7+ Year Member

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    *taps foot* Tweetie you're in big trouble!

    How many times have I told you? Take the tests....check the answers and review what you missed....review all the things associated with what you missed....but DON'T score the exam!

    The ONLY score that matters is the one that you get on the MCAT. Two weeks before the MCAT I scored a 25, 31 and 27 on the practice tests that I took. Prior to that I had also scored a 28, and a 30 on another exam. You CANNOT use any of the scores from ANY exam to predict your performance. Use the exams as study guides..THAT'S IT!
     
  7. Assassin

    Assassin Assassin 7+ Year Member

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    Duty calls...lol I gotta respond as a kaplan teacher:
    First of all, get your confidence level up a notch (or two), 7,8,8 is not horrible for the first test; I've seen a lot worse :) There is still plenty of time to improve.
    Next, start improving your verbal - its the section that you can realistically improve the most on between now and the test day. Do what I call "the 9 min. drill" Read at LEAST 1 passage/day, EVERY SINGLE day, and take absolutely no more than 9 mins/passage, regardless of how many questions you get right. If you don't complete the verbal section on the MCAT, you're not gonna like your score, so work on timing above all else.
    Physics: good news here, kaplan's physics is more difficult than the real thing; whereas kaplan is overly fixated on problem solving, many of the actual MCAT questions are purely conceptual <-- know these well and your MCAT score will reflect that :)
    Bio: ok, not so good news here, sorry :( The bio section has been getting progressively tougher almost each MCAT administration and the number of orgo questions MAY be as high as 70% in some versions, so practice, practice, practice, and come prepared :) Easier said than done, I know, but you asked for some honest opinions :)
    Sorry if you heard this stuff before, on the other hand, if any of this is news to you, you should transfer to my kaplan class :) Good Luck Tweetie!

    btw, I speak from experience regarding improving the verbal score, I got a 6 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> on the Kaplan midterm when I took the course myself.
     
  8. warpath

    warpath Officer Cadet 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tweetie_bird:
    <strong>ok, so I SERIOUSLY need some honest opinions. I took this test and felt like I did well on the verbal and Bio Sci (well, except for the part where I had to GUESS on one passage in each section since I ran out of time). I am very disappointed with my performance, esp with the amount of studying I have put in already. What could I be doing wrong??

    7/8/8 was my pathetic score.
    I went up from a 5/7/7. DOES THAT SUCK OR WHAT? I just need to know that others were/are in the same boat, and actually redeemed themselves. If you feel like you may inspire me a bit, please...do so. I desperately need it right now.

    With a weeping heart, :rolleyes:
    Tweetie</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree with what player said, practice in your spare time. One more thing, invest in a stopwatch (one that doesn't beep, because they won't allow any other type at the exam). Each section has a number of passages (plus discrete questions in phys and bio). Divide the total exam time by the number of passages. Now, for the passage based questions, use half of that time to read the passage and the other half to answer questions (for each passage). Remember to read for structure and not detail. Now, go on and give 'em hell. :D
     
  9. Elysium

    Elysium Not Really An Old Beaver 7+ Year Member

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    Tweetiw, my gal,
    Do not fret! You've been such a great support for the rest of us in this MCAT hell! I think you're totally on the right track! Obviously I haven't taken the real thing yet, but I got a 9VS, 6BS, 4PS on my 1st TPR daignostic! A friggin' 4! So not to worry too much (easier said than done, I KNOW)! I also remember that there was another gal that posted that got a 1-2-1 on her first practice test...and ended up with close to a 30! So, buck up! We're going to kick ass, I promise!

    <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />
     
  10. UCLA2000

    UCLA2000 7+ Year Member

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    "Then 10 days after that,(I review a lot of stuff in these ten days) I took test #6 I scored..I bet you would nt be able to guess ,so I will tell you ) A FIFTEEN ,yes 15,(6,4,5.)I came home and I through my books literally in the trash. I have not studied for three days now.Ofcourse I took my books out of trash but I feel so down."

    Damnit where's that quote about not giving the poster a nurturing nipple to suck on....! Damn can't find it....! different approach..

    Ok taking the books out of the trash was a step in the right direction. Next you just gotta realize that you're being a complete BABY about the situation. I don't give a **** how much stuff you THINK that you reviewed in those 10 days. The fact remains that it was only 10 days of studying.
    If you can't study for more than 10 f*cking days without quitting, then you don't want to be a doctor badly enough. You studied for 10 days for an exam that requires months of review....and you wonder why you didn't do well??????

    I worked my ass off studying around 8-10 hours a day 6 days a week for 4 months. I started out with a 15 or 16 on TPR 1...and ended up with a 33 on the MCAT.

    I Placed a post above about how scores on prep exams don't matter...either you chose to ignore it, or you didn't think it was worth your time to read it.

    In either case YOU have 2 choices:
    1. GROW UP and get off YOUR a$$ and study like everyone else...

    2. Quit now...before YOU've even studied....or taken the MCAT...and wonder for the rest of YOUR life if YOU have what it takes to make it. YOU'll be able to chalk it up on your list of missed opportunities.

    Hey it's YOUR life...YOU and only YOU will benefit or suffer the consequences of YOUR choices. I've already done MY studying....I've already taken MY MCAT...and I'M going to be a doctor.

    What YOU do with YOUR life is in YOUR hands.
     
  11. Optimistic

    Optimistic Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by UCLA2000:
    <strong>"Then 10 days after that,(I review a lot of stuff in these ten days) I took test #6 I scored..I bet you would nt be able to guess ,so I will tell you ) A FIFTEEN ,yes 15,(6,4,5.)I came home and I through my books literally in the trash. I have not studied for three days now.Ofcourse I took my books out of trash but I feel so down."

    Damnit where's that quote about not giving the poster a nurturing nipple to suck on....! Damn can't find it....! different approach..

    Ok taking the books out of the trash was a step in the right direction. Next you just gotta realize that you're being a complete BABY about the situation. I don't give a **** how much stuff you THINK that you reviewed in those 10 days. The fact remains that it was only 10 days of studying.

    I worked my ass off studying around 8-10 hours a day 6 days a week for 4 months. I started out with a 15 or 16 on TPR 1...and ended up with a 33 on the MCAT.

    I Placed a post above about how scores on prep exams don't matter...either you chose to ignore it, or you didn't think it was worth your time to read it.

    In either case YOU have 2 choices:
    1. GROW UP and get off YOUR a$$ and study like everyone else...

    2. Quit now...before YOU've even studied....or taken the MCAT...and wonder for the rest of YOUR life if YOU have what it takes to make it. YOU'll be able to chalk it up on your list of missed opportunities.

    Hey it's YOUR life...YOU and only YOU will benefit or suffer the consequences of YOUR choices. I've already done MY studying....I've already taken MY MCAT...and I'M going to be a doctor.

    What YOU do with YOUR life is in YOUR hands.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hold it UCLA, I think you misunderstood my post.
    I dont think you know that Iam taking MCAT for the second time .
    what I was saying in my post is that when I took the mcat # 5 after diagnostic, I didnt even reviewed or studied anything and I went from 17 on diagnostic to 22 on #5. after that I studied seriously for 10 days and I scored lower than the diagnostic.
    now I didnot mean that 10 days is long time.I was just trying to make the point that obviously scores dont reflect much improvement that one might hope for after studying (Atleast I personally think I should make some improvement after reviewing some concepts even if it is only for ten days, as compare to not looking at anything at all and taking a test just for the heck of it.).

    I spent May through August studying for august MCAT last year, I am not a genius like you are so I only improved from a 14 on diagnostic to 22 on real mcat. I dont think I have to prove to anybody on this forum how bad I want to be a doctor but its quite obvious if Iam retaking MCAT and going through this again ,I probably want it pretty bad.

    Although I think you were pretty rude in your post but still Iwould like to thank you as Ithink your intentions were to provide some encouragement.
     
  12. UCLA2000

    UCLA2000 7+ Year Member

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    I didn't misunderstand your post I just didn't know that you had taken the MCAT before (because you didn't mention it!). Had I known as much I would not have used the tough love approach. That being said my post was not rude. It was just very matter of fact. I don't generally sugar coat stuff.

    You said...

    "obviously scores dont reflect much improvement that one might hope for after studying "

    Well I'm NOT surprised. I'm reposting my earlier post from this thread.
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    "*taps foot* Tweetie you're in big trouble!

    How many times have I told you? Take the tests....check the answers and review what you missed....review all the things associated with what you missed....but DON'T score the exam!

    The ONLY score that matters is the one that you get on the MCAT. Two weeks before the MCAT I scored a 25, 31 and 27 on the practice tests that I took. Prior to that I had also scored a 28, and a 30 on another exam. You CANNOT use any of the scores from ANY exam to predict your performance. Use the exams as study guides..THAT'S IT!"
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    Scoring exams will only discourage you. It's useless so don't do it. Nothing good can come of it.

    You said:
    "I spent May through August studying for august MCAT last year, I am not a genius like you are so I only improved from a 14 on diagnostic to 22 on real mcat."

    I also spent 4 months studying for the MCAT. I spent 8-10 hours per day 6 days a week studying. I took 23 full length practice exams: Flowers, Columbia, Berkeley, Kaplan, TPR, Flowers, and Barrons.

    I did NOT read for Physics or Bio. I did tons of problems, memorized tables, looked at diagrams, and took alot of practice tests. Maybe you just studied wrong...it happens.
     
  13. Optimistic

    Optimistic Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by UCLA2000:
    <strong>Maybe you just studied wrong...it happens.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Iam not sure but I hope that is the case.
     
  14. UCLA2000

    UCLA2000 7+ Year Member

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    Send me a pm. tell me what exactly you did to study for the mcat. Go into detail. How many hours per day...everything. We'll see if we can get you straightened out.
     
  15. racergirl

    racergirl Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Uhhmmm...

    OK, I'm not getting into the flap above!

    But to Tweety, Head up, girl! I know you're working hard, and that work is already starting to pay off! You've already improved 4 points, with 2 points in Verbal! GOOD JOB! Keep up the good work, make sure you review and understand all mistakes you make on practice tests, and you'll only continue to improve.
     
  16. Tweetie_bird

    Tweetie_bird 7+ Year Member

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    Hi guys,
    I want to start with thanking EACH AND EVERY ONE of you, for writing to me and telling me your own stories. It certainly makes me feel better to get that uplifting advice. I wish I could PM each and every one of you separately, telling you how much I appreciate hearing this. Unfortunately the MCAT time grind doesn't allow me to do this.

    I am making a promise to myself, to give it my BEST shot and not bitch about it....go in with a killer instinct and a positive attitude, and I know I will ride this biatch come April 20th. (I hope!!)

    To Optimistic--sometimes you just gotta roll with the punches girl...I know what you are going through, and i know it's no easy job. Let's make sure that we pull each other out of this mess, ok?

    Foxy, thanks for your PM. Girl, you are AWESOME!!!

    UCLA--my boy! You are always so kick-butt inspiring. I am sure others have told you this, but your attitude is probably what got you into med school. You kick ass! (literally!!) Please keep kicking our asses until April 20th to not give up.....I will be very grateful.

    Lastly, I just wanted to say that in the last few months I have been on SDN, you guys have almost become like family that I whine to when I feel low. It's just awesome having you all around in times of need. Thank you.

    Tweetie
     

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