Florida State Ph.D program

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

irish80122

DCT at Miss State U.
20+ Year Member
Joined
Apr 26, 2003
Messages
943
Reaction score
155
I just found out this forum also has psychology so I apologize for being a newbie. I am curious as to if anyone on here is applying to Florida State for Clinical. I am still a junior but I really want to work with Dr. Joiner at FSU and I am just trying to see what it takes to get in and what they are looking for if you have an idea. Also, I would love to hear what people think of the program. Any info is very much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
irish80122 said:
I just found out this forum also has psychology so I apologize for being a newbie. I am curious as to if anyone on here is applying to Florida State for Clinical. I am still a junior but I really want to work with Dr. Joiner at FSU and I am just trying to see what it takes to get in and what they are looking for if you have an idea. Also, I would love to hear what people think of the program. Any info is very much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

I interviewed at FSU a couple years ago. It is a strong program. Tallahassee seemed kind of dull but the students were very close knit and friendly. Thomas Joiner is an extemely productive researcher, and his students said he was a great mentor.

In any case, in clinical psychology you really can't get too bogged down on wanting to attend one particular school. Thomas Joiner probably accepts 1 student a year on average, and who knows-- the year you apply, he may decide not to take a student, or he may take someone he knows, or he may want to take someone with different research interests than you (since his interests are quite broad and most professors like having students in their lab with diverse interests). Clinical psychology admissions at any one particular school are always a crapshoot-- that's why you have to apply to a large number of schools and not hang your hopes on the whims of one professor. That said, if you want to increase your chances with Joiner, I suggest you start an intelligent correspondence with him, and if possible try to meet him at a professional conference.
 
irish80122 said:
I just found out this forum also has psychology so I apologize for being a newbie. I am curious as to if anyone on here is applying to Florida State for Clinical. I am still a junior but I really want to work with Dr. Joiner at FSU and I am just trying to see what it takes to get in and what they are looking for if you have an idea. Also, I would love to hear what people think of the program. Any info is very much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

Welcome! 🙂

With the exception of the faculty members who sit on the admissions committe, I'm not sure that anyone is going to be able to give you any special information on how to get into a particular program to work with a particular person.

With that said, I think the same rules apply for FSU as with any other solid, reputable PhD program - get lots of exposure to solid, relevant research. You will need to really convince the admissions committee that you are the best match to work with the person you want to work with. In your personal statement, be sure to clarify your research interests and talk the kinds of work you would like to be doing. Letters of rec are important, and of course high GPA and GREs will get your foot in the door. As for clinical experience, I think it would be helpful for you to have some - can you volunteer one afternoon or evening a week? Does your school have any kind of internship practicum for undergrads? Community mental health centers are great places to get good experience.

I don't really know what to say about the posters/publications thing. Of course it is preferred to have a poster or paper. But quite honestly, it's rare for an undergrad to have the opportunity to be included as a co-author on a paper. My guess is that most people who have this on their vita at the time of application are those who worked for a couple of years post-college (as I did).

Finally, I would gently caution you about getting your hopes up too high of working with one particular person at a particular program. First, you never know what may happen at the time you choose to apply - what if Joiner's on sabbatical and not taking students? Second, you would be surprised to find that your impressions of people and places will change quite a bit after visiting the programs to interview. What may have seemed like the most ideal match may be much less so (I had this experience when I was interviewing for internships, and it was very eye-opening).

Anyway, those are some of my ramblings. I hope they were helpful!

(oops - psychanon and I were replying at the same time - just wanted to clarify that I didn't respond with the same exact reply just for fun!)
 
Thank you both with your help so far. Don't worry, I know how selective it is and I am really trying to keep my options as open as I can. I actually already have a list of about 20 programs I plan on applying to (I will cut it down some, however) so I am keeping my options open. I really didn't want to have a first choice but I just found Dr. Joiner's lab and it is a great match for what I want to do (and there aren't many that study suicide) so that is why it is the one I am really aiming for. I am not locked into that, and I have some other options, but I would love to end up with as good of a match as FSU so I am just trying to get a bit more information about it.

Should I really consider getting in touch with him already? I was going to get in touch over the summer but I could certainly get in touch earlier because I am almost through his book (which I could easily finish) and also know enough about his research from reading some and talking to a few of his graduate students (which he encourages on his website) that I feel like I could have an intelligent conversation about his research and I could be honest about why I am interested. I just don't know if I really should start this early but I certainly can, just let me know what you think!

Ugh, why is this process so stressful (and I am not even a senior yet)! Oh well, thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
 
Top