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I used to do that before, I mean I used to focus on the passage as a whole, and that seemed to work for TPR and EK101, but it backfired when I took the first two AAMC tests because most questions were asking about details that I neededd to refer back to passage
that might be the case but almost all the time I get the main-idea type questions correct, so Im not sure if there is more to understanding the passage.The AAMC's do sometimes ask questions on trivial details but a lot of the detail questions they ask are also important details. You weren't approaching the passage as a whole if you only got a 3. A lot of the questions should have been about whole ideas in the passages, so it seems you got those ones wrong too.
that might be the case but almost all the time I get the main-idea type questions correct, so Im not sure if there is more to understanding the passage.
I think that could have been more than 3 if I had time for the last passage, I always skip the last passage because Im an ESL students and takes me time to understand it quickly. Im not trying to make excuses, but other than that, what would you suggest me to do to better understand the passage as a whole, other than the questions that I should be asking myself that you mentioned, is there any strategy that you would recommend me?
I agree with all of this. I started with a 5 on verbal and after several months of passages I eventually got a 10 on my test. I think that there is such thing as over thinking these passages, and in doing so I feel like you might miss the major point of the article, which is most important in deciding on how to answer the questions. I used the EK strategy where finding the main point of the passage was my single most important objective.I went from sub 10 to a 13/14 consistently on my practice exams. Honestly, my only advice is to read A LOT of passages. Do the problems, and actually review them to make sure you're interpreting the passages and questions correctly. If you have more time, reading in general is the best thing you can do.
I used to do 6 psgs in one setting and review them the following days, now Ive changed my strategy and will be doing 4 passages a day but do each one separately and review them right after. I realized that reviewing my mistakes right after each passage would force me to not make the same mistakes after taking the next passage, do you think this is effective?
that's correct but I thought that I should first try to get as accurate as I can then work on my timing, no? Im taking a full length every week starting from tomorrow hope that helps with my timing and endurance
that's correct but I thought that I should first try to get as accurate as I can then work on my timing, no? Im taking a full length every week starting from tomorrow hope that helps with my timing and endurance
I tried reading questions before jumping to the passage, but I retain absolutely nothing after I finish reading all questions and I end up wasting a minute... I'm probably doing it wrong. but I've heard this strategy has helped a lot of people to improve their score.Something that appeared to bump my VR score up consistently was reading the questions quickly before I read the passage, maybe because when I read the passage I knew to pay attention to references to the Act of 1871 or what have you.
Can't go wrong reading a mountain of MCAT practice passages under timed conditions, that's for sure.
I tried reading questions before jumping to the passage, but I retain absolutely nothing after I finish reading all questions and I end up wasting a minute... I'm probably doing it wrong. but I've heard this strategy has helped a lot of people to improve their score.
so are you saying you find it helpful to read the questions before starting the passage?Reading the questions is a mixed bag. I find it easier to start a passage when I have a vague idea what it's about. Using expectations to mold the idea of what a passage will be like before you start reading can allow you to form pictures of the concepts, which will help you understand it better. Dense passages are more difficult to read because it's hard to picture the concepts in your mind.
so are you saying you find it helpful to read the questions before starting the passage?
It would probably take me 2min to read through the questions carefully to have expectations of what the passage is going to be
I think that's a step in the right direction. That's already a lot of passages each day. Read something for fun to, this will increase your speed.I used to do 6 psgs in one setting and review them the following days, now Ive changed my strategy and will be doing 4 passages a day but do each one separately and review them right after. I realized that reviewing my mistakes right after each passage would force me to not make the same mistakes after taking the next passage, do you think this is effective?
Just google. Cambridge puts out some free prep material on their website, but there are a lot of other good resources online, as ESL teachers tend to trade materials pretty frequently. I would focus on the passage based parts, but some of the grammar and use of language bits might help you as well.Hey there, I really appreciate your in depth explanation, it really means a lot to me!
1) I’m currently using Testing Solution Verbal tests, I’ve read good reviews on them and I actually tried a few and they were pretty close to what AAMC tests. After I’ve exhausted all these tests I will definitely try the CPE materials, are there specific materials that you would recommend or if I just google CPE prep, any material that comes up would be sufficient?
I would strongly recommend against taking the test in October. While you can make some improvements between now and then, it will take you much longer to get to a competitive point. And anything less than ~8 in VR will not be competitive, even if you're doing spectacularly on the other sections. You might get a tiny bit of leeway by being a non-native English speaker, but this won't be worth more than a point or two.2) I unfortunately graduated and my test is actually in oct so Im really dealing with time constraints. I’ve taken a lot of upper courses in philosophy/sociology/psychology and I’ve done pretty well on all of those, as a matter of fact I was one of the top students in all of those classes, but I never took any english courses that dealt specifically with grammar, and just like you said, Im starting to realize how important grammar is on verbal. To be able to see the relationship of ideas and figuring out what the author means by using contrast words I think is crucial, I believe it’s too late to improve on this aspect of verbal, but Im trying my best to figure it out on my own for now.
On one hand, if highlighting helps you, then it helps you.3) I actually started to find it helpful to highlight those key words that point out the main idea, specially the key words on the first and last paragraphs. Are you suggesting this technique when I do the outside reading only or would it also be beneficial to just scan the verbal passages first and focus on the key words then reread the whole passage with normal speed as well?
Yep, that's why all those extra details are there. To weed out the distractible people4) This is great technique… I find myself get lost in the details sometimes, details that I will not even come up on the questions.. when you read the passage first, do you highlight names/phrases/key words, or you just glance or the passage as quickly as you can then go through the questions and find those details questions? Because I find it difficult to find the corresponding sentence or paragraph without highlighting. Another thing that you brought up was that you scan the sentence and THEN go through the answer choices and PICK the correct answer, this is what I do when the question is asking about direct information from the passage, but in cases that the you are dealing with implication type questions that you can’t directly find the answer from the passage, do you read the corresponding sentence then read each answer choice one by one or do you go through the answer choices then read the sentence?
Surehey Kraskadva, thanks again for all the useful tips and recommendations!
I would say if you aren't finishing the whole section and scoring ~10 on your practice tests by then, then you should probably cancel. People tend to get a few points lower than their practice tests scores under the actual conditions, and you really need ~8 to prove that English won't be an issue for you down the road.1)I'm already registered for that date, I'm going to try my best to raise my score as much as I can, if I can't score in the range I'd like to then I will definitely void it and register for another date probably in Jan.
IF you can get a good tutor, it might be helpful. The issue I would see with this is actually finding a good tutor who 1) knows their English/critical analysis on this level and 2) is familiar with this style of testing. They're kinda few and far between. And you're right, most are not able to address student weaknesses that they didn't have themselves.2) do you think hiring a verbal tutor would be beneficial instead of registering in a course? I've been trying to find a tutor but it seems like a difficult task, because most tutor won't have the ability to see through the students weaknesses rather they state what helped THEM to improve.
yes, practice letting go of that highlighter3) I agree on the fact that highlighting distracts me from focusing on the main point, and I'm trying to do it minimally but there are times that I still get stressed and highlight a lot of words and end up spending 6min just reading the passage, I guess it just takes practice..
a, b, and c I would call detail questions as well. Also the ones that ask for a reverse of the situation- like "suppose the author was in this this situation that is not in the passage. Would he agree with a, b, c, or d?" because there's something specific in the text that either confirms or contradicts the answer.4) I absolutely LOVE your technique on reading the "detailed" questions rather than every single questions, I find that reading the implication type questions are basically pointless, because the question stem is stating a scenario that can't be directly found from the passage.
How do you recognize a detailed question? so far I've found that questions that ask for EXPLICIT informations could be categorized as detailed questions such as a) question asking about the meaning of a phrase b) question asking about the comparison of two phenomenon c) questions that ask "according to passage assertion"
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I would say if you aren't finishing the whole section and scoring ~10 on your practice tests by then, then you should probably cancel. People tend to get a few points lower than their practice tests scores under the actual conditions, and you really need ~8 to prove that English won't be an issue for you down the road.
IF you can get a good tutor, it might be helpful. The issue I would see with this is actually finding a good tutor who 1) knows their English/critical analysis on this level and 2) is familiar with this style of testing. They're kinda few and far between. And you're right, most are not able to address student weaknesses that they didn't have themselves.
I would still recommend a class, but if a tutor is what you'd prefer to do though, I would suggest going to your local university, getting an appointment with the chair of English or Philosophy, explain your situation to them, and ask if they know any students who would be capable and willing to help you. And perhaps screen potential tutors by having them take the VR and see how they do. That way, you at least know they've seen the format of the VR and can answer most questions correctly.
yes, practice letting go of that highlighter
a, b, and c I would call detail questions as well. Also the ones that ask for a reverse of the situation- like "suppose the author was in this this situation that is not in the passage. Would he agree with a, b, c, or d?" because there's something specific in the text that either confirms or contradicts the answer.
The broad scope questions would be more the ones asking about author bias or opinion. These often come down to a few adjectives or a grammatical construction that is the 'evidence' for the right answer, and these may be the things you're not picking up on in the passage.
, I realized that there is really no effing time for any fancy
system of problem solving like taking notes or looking for conceptual relationships. Your sole goal becomes finishing the test before the timer runs out.
As for highlighting, I would use that sparsely... Personally what I highlighted on my own never came to be of much help
in answering the questions. What I came to do is just a two second scan of the questions for any names/ key words, and would just
highlight those words in the passage and read the areas around it more carefully.
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Sure, I will start taking AAMC practice tests and see how much I've improved.Sure
I would say if you aren't finishing the whole section and scoring ~10 on your practice tests by then, then you should probably cancel. People tend to get a few points lower than their practice tests scores under the actual conditions, and you really need ~8 to prove that English won't be an issue for you down the road.
IF you can get a good tutor, it might be helpful. The issue I would see with this is actually finding a good tutor who 1) knows their English/critical analysis on this level and 2) is familiar with this style of testing. They're kinda few and far between. And you're right, most are not able to address student weaknesses that they didn't have themselves.
I would still recommend a class, but if a tutor is what you'd prefer to do though, I would suggest going to your local university, getting an appointment with the chair of English or Philosophy, explain your situation to them, and ask if they know any students who would be capable and willing to help you. And perhaps screen potential tutors by having them take the VR and see how they do. That way, you at least know they've seen the format of the VR and can answer most questions correctly.
yes, practice letting go of that highlighter
a, b, and c I would call detail questions as well. Also the ones that ask for a reverse of the situation- like "suppose the author was in this this situation that is not in the passage. Would he agree with a, b, c, or d?" because there's something specific in the text that either confirms or contradicts the answer.
The broad scope questions would be more the ones asking about author bias or opinion. These often come down to a few adjectives or a grammatical construction that is the 'evidence' for the right answer, and these may be the things you're not picking up on in the passage.
Figured I'd throw in my two cents...I jumped up 3-4pts once I started approaching things this way.
I do NOT read the questions first...honestly, a lot of the time they word the question so that it mimics the wording of one sentence while the actual answer comes from an overall understanding of the passage, and differs slightly. After I found that I was scoring lower than I wanted to, I started trying all sorts of different methods to 'catch' the answer, to have actual evidence I could cite for each correct answer...and my score actually dropped. A lot. What had happened? Well, by freaking out and trying to prove each answer, I actually led myself to fall into a lot of the traps the passage had set up to differentiate 'understands the overall passage' from 'can skim for details'.
So here was my final strategy, which worked well for me and pulled my score up past my initial starting score by 3-4 points: go with your gut, and then prove WRONG, not right.
It is very difficult to prove something right (beyond a purely discrete question, which are few and far between in verbal). It may feel as if you have succeeded after you find a sentence which jives with that answer, but you aren't done yet. In order to prove that the author truly stands behind that sentence, you really have to go through the passage and make sure the author never goes against that idea, and nobody has time for that (nor the persistence). So, instead, I used my gut to pick the most 'right' feeling answer, and then if I was not confident and felt the need to confirm, I went through and found evidence that each of the other answers was wrong. That requires far less evidence.
If for some reason I could not find evidence against one of the other answers, I'd try to prove my initial answer wrong and reevaluate. If I still could not choose between the two, I would just pick one, but try to come back later and reevaluate...sometimes a few minutes of space opens up your perspective!
MCAT VR makes it hard to prove something right, but it's a multiple choice exam...so why not just prove things wrong instead?
True. I personally don't really advocate any non AAMC practice materials. They're all crap. FLs, MCAT guide, and VR SA all the way!This is a good AAMC strategy. Be aware that some non-AAMC test prep companies don't follow all of these patterns. For example, you will find verbatim answers in GS and EK, but practically never in AAMC. AAMC makes you think more. That difference trips people up.
They're the best, but they're not good. Nothing is like AAMC materials except AAMC material.id say Princeton is the best non-aamc verbal out there. i think they're really really good.