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Just listen to 6/22/73 Bird Song and all will be good. **** this coronavirus I don't like it any more than you.
This version is like pure psychedelic and calm at the same time.
On it

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There's a really good show today in 1984, with a cool Sugar Mag>Touch>Fire and rare (for the time) Dark Star encore (7/13/84 at the Greek). But if you only have time for one July 13th Dead song, listen to Crazy Fingers from 7/13/76. The first half is sunset-reggae infused Dead, then from 7:30 on it takes a cosmic detour into weightless jamville. Enjoy...
 
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Soaking in 7/16/90 today. It’s a good show for a good day. If you have only time for 1, listen to Truckin' (track 17) which has an interesting & unusual jam coming out of it.
 
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I like the China>Rider from this show, 7/17/89 Alpine Valley. It has a different rhythm than other versions and is played nicely. Stands up on it's own. The whole show seems solid and there are a lot of very well played songs. Interesting F-bomb dropped by Brent in the show opener, Let The Good Times Roll. Something was obviously brewing.
 
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I like the China>Rider from this show, 7/17/89 Alpine Valley. It has a different rhythm than other versions and is played nicely. Stands up on it's own. The whole show seems solid and there are a lot of very well played songs. Interesting F-bomb dropped by Brent in the show opener, Let The Good Times Roll. Something was obviously brewing.
Brent getting into it! Don't sleep on the 7/17/76 show though -- good old Sugaree, shortly before they started adding harmony vocals to the chorus, as well as a version of the Other One that is nice and uptempo.
 
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Brent getting into it! Don't sleep on the 7/17/76 show though -- good old Sugaree, shortly before they started adding harmony vocals to the chorus, as well as a version of the Other One that is nice and uptempo.
Will check it out!
 
Brent getting into it! Don't sleep on the 7/17/76 show though -- good old Sugaree, shortly before they started adding harmony vocals to the chorus, as well as a version of the Other One that is nice and uptempo.
Aw yeah man. Just listened to the Sugaree, TOO>Eyes and Comes A Time (cool jam coming out of it). All extremely good. I don’t think I’ve heard a ‘76 show I didn’t like, yet. Some are weird & unpredictable, but all very good. Will try to take in as much of the rest as possible.
 
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Aw yeah man. Just listened to the Sugaree, TOO>Eyes and Comes A Time (cool jam coming out of it). All extremely good. I don’t think I’ve heard a ‘76 show I didn’t like, yet. Some are weird & unpredictable, but all very good. Will try to take in as much of the rest as possible.
Same here; the 76 shows are, by and large, excellent. I loved Jerry's singing and guitar playing in Eyes. The rest of the show is equally good. The vocals drop out occasionally in the early tracks on the version I'm listening to, but the mix is darn good on this soundboard.
 
This is random. I just stumbled across this and it's relevant to nothing. It's from 3/1/1980, but it looks like it's 110 years old because it's in black and white (why? :lol: ) A reggae-ish version of The Harder They Come by Jerry Garcia Band. He's so ... Jerry Garcia in this, and just absolutely refuses to stop soloing :laugh: , I love it.
 
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Listening to 7/18/72 at Roosevelt Stadium right now. This band was so damn good during this stretch in it's own right, it's just hard to believe. Jerry's guitar work in PITB, Truckin' and Dark Star is just unreal on the Strat. I'm not sure why this show isn't recognized more. The setlist is unfrickinbelievable. This is just a monster show. Pigpen is sadly missed and they're yet to hit their '73'-74 stride. But I'm not detecting any drop-off here, post Europe '72 and before '73-'74. Man, what I would give to be at this show right now. 30 songs, all peak Dead. Wow.
 
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...Holy crap. The Dark Star at 23:00. Becomes a seven headed monster. This could've made the Meltdown tourney, @thegenius, but I guess it didn't make the cut. It's great, though.

7/18/72
 
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...Holy crap. The Dark Star at 23:00. Becomes a seven headed monster. This could've made the Meltdown tourney, @thegenius, but I guess it didn't make the cut. It's great, though.

7/18/72
....(con't) Interesting banter between Ramble On Rose and Greatest Story. Phil explains why they're not doing any Pigpen songs, "...because he's real sick." Then he says, "But he'll be back with us next year, when his doctor says he can travel."
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That never happened. His last show was a month before, 6/17/72 at Hollywood Bowl.

R.I.P. bro

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....(con't) Interesting banter between Ramble On Rose and Greatest Story. Phil explains why they're not doing any Pigpen songs, "...because he's real sick." Then he says, "But he'll be back with us next year, when his doctor says he can travel."
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That never happened. His last show was a month before, 6/17/72 at Hollywood Bowl.

R.I.P. bro

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I thought it was a matter of time before he would have left the band anyway (or gotten kicked out). The band was going in directions that he didn't really care for. He wasn't really a musical improvisor. He was a rapping improvisor though.
 
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Meltdowns are my favorite. I'm tuning that up now....

Hmm. That was good. That would have definitely made it in the tourney had I known about it. It was a pretty standard brief, screeching, apocalyptic meltdown that had two levels to it. It will have to command some further special attention in short order.

It was actually hard to find 32 songs for the Tourney because every single Dark Star and TOO from 72-74 had a meltdown during it. They would basically alternate nights playing DS and TOO. There were very few shows from 72-74 where they didn't play either of those two songs, and when they didn't they played PITB.
 
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This is random. I just stumbled across this and it's relevant to nothing. It's from 3/1/1980, but it looks like it's 110 years old because it's in black and white (why? :lol: ) A reggae-ish version of The Harder They Come by Jerry Garcia Band. He's so ... Jerry Garcia in this, and just absolutely refuses to stop soloing :laugh: , I love it.
In the middle of stumbling around, myself. Came across the show from 9/11/1974 in the midst of my search for the perfect Sugaree (don't know why, it's just burrowed itself into my brain over the last few months). Anyway, it's a barn burner of a show. The band is incredibly tight. I think it's one of Dick's Picks, though I don't remember which. Killer Row Jimmy to satisfy the reggae itch, and a fantastic PITB.

Edit: even the Bobby McGee is fantastic. I loved when Janis sang it, and usually skip it when the Dead plays it, but this was great!
 
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In the middle of stumbling around, myself. Came across the show from 9/11/1974 in the midst of my search for the perfect Sugaree (don't know why, it's just burrowed itself into my brain over the last few months). Anyway, it's a barn burner of a show. The band is incredibly tight. I think it's one of Dick's Picks, though I don't remember which. Killer Row Jimmy to satisfy the reggae itch, and a fantastic PITB.

Edit: even the Bobby McGee is fantastic. I loved when Janis sang it, and usually skip it when the Dead plays it, but this was great!
Right now, I'm listening to 7/19/74 and it's really good also. I'll try to get to 9/11/74 a little later, if possible. Although I like the Dead's version, Janis Joplin's Me & Bobby McGee is definitely the definitive version, if you ask me also. She was just unreal. I've listened to her Greatest Hits countless times.
 
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Right now, I'm listening to 7/19/74 and it's really good also. I'll try to get to 9/11/74 a little later, if possible. Although I like the Dead's version, Janis Joplin's Me & Bobby McGee is definitely the definitive version, if you ask me also. She was just unreal. I've listened to her Greatest Hits countless times.
That's where I started, today ;)
 
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...Came across the show from 9/11/1974...it's a barn burner of a show. The band is incredibly tight. ...a fantastic PITB.
I finally got around to this and, uh....yep. It's good. Real good. I'm up to PITB and you're right. It made it onto DP #7 for a reason. To be continued...
 
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I finally got around to this and, uh....yep. It's good. Real good. I'm up to PITB and you're right. It made it onto DP #7 for a reason. To be continued...
@24GaugeEJ Dude...the Eyes of the World>Space Jam>Wharf Rat from this show. Set 1 is great and set 2 is downright Celestial. Holy crap, where's this show been hiding?

9/11/74

Need @thegenius to weigh in on this one. This show is almost too much for me to handle. I don't think my brain can handle it, or wrap around the Universe that is this show especially the jamtastic second set.

More specifically ...How did none of this make it to DP 7!? Wtf

Seastones>
Jam>
Eyes Of The World>
Jam>
Space>
Jam>
Wharf Rat>
Space
 
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@24GaugeEJ Dude...the Eyes of the World>Space Jam>Wharf Rat from this show. Set 1 is great and set 2 is downright Celestial. Holy crap, where's this show been hiding?

9/11/74

Need @thegenius to weigh in on this one. This show is almost too much for me to handle. I don't think my brain can handle it, or wrap around the Universe that is this show especially the jamtastic second set.

More specifically ...How did none of this make it to DP 7!? Wtf

Seastones>
Jam>
Eyes Of The World>
Jam>
Space>
Jam>
Wharf Rat>
Space
Right?!? I don’t know how I had never heard this. Listened to a bunch of it again today. @thegenius get on this!
 
Right?!? I don’t know how I had never heard this. Listened to a bunch of it again today. @thegenius get on this!
I was over on the Grateful Thread earlier asking about this show, and the response was something to the effect of, yeah, duh, it's a great show, where you been, or something to that effect. It's new to me though. Probably because they left the best stuff off Dick's Picks #7, apparently because the songs were so long and it would have resulted in a 4 CD set which plummets sales, according the the Grateful Thread heads. But yeah. I'm gonna have to save this one and come back to it a bunch, because there's so much there. The more I listen, deeper the rabbit hole goes! :lol:
 
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I haven't listened to the Alexandra shows in sometime. I recall them being TOO spacey...but I will listen to them again. They were higher than normal during that brief European tour.
 
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I haven't listened to the Alexandra shows in sometime. I recall them being TOO spacey...but I will listen to them again. They were higher than normal during that brief European tour.
They definitely are super spacey, especially the Space and Phil/Neg parts. It's not for everyday listening, or for the uninitiated. These shows are only for when you want to go deep. Real deep.
 
Listening to 7/22/84 at Ventura Fairgrounds today. I love this rough, raw and rippin' version of Loser. Jerry leaves it all hangin' out during this one. It also has an interesting and rare I Just Wanna Make Love To You (18 years between versions) with Brent. It's much slower and bluesier than the fast, shredding Pigpen version from 11/29/66. Then they play it again 2.5 months later (10/8/84) and change it completely again, with breakneck speed. Then they put it to rest for 11 more years and the last version (2/21/95) has Jerry on vocals..It's also completely different, slowed down, and groovin'. Interesting stuff.
 
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I was listening to the 7/22/84 show and was thinking about Bob Weir's playing. Curious what you guys think of his work as a rhythm guitarist. I definitely appreciate his unique chord voicings and the way that he fills the space between Jerry's more traditional chords and the piano. I found an old favorite show of mine that I recall having Bobby pretty high in the mix, particularly during Brown Eyed Women: Brown Eyed Women 12/31/72 Grateful Dead

Bobby just has the faintest touch of distortion, which manifests to a greater or lesser degree depending upon how hard he hits the strings, but it still sounds pretty clean. You can hear him really well. He has a couple of angry chords in this version (you'll know what I mean when that distortion kicks in the slightest bit - there's a notable one during the first verse). His guitar has a little more bite than was typical, for whatever reason.
 
I was listening to the 7/22/84 show and was thinking about Bob Weir's playing. Curious what you guys think of his work as a rhythm guitarist. I definitely appreciate his unique chord voicings and the way that he fills the space between Jerry's more traditional chords and the piano. I found an old favorite show of mine that I recall having Bobby pretty high in the mix, particularly during Brown Eyed Women: Brown Eyed Women 12/31/72 Grateful Dead

Bobby just has the faintest touch of distortion, which manifests to a greater or lesser degree depending upon how hard he hits the strings, but it still sounds pretty clean. You can hear him really well. He has a couple of angry chords in this version (you'll know what I mean when that distortion kicks in the slightest bit - there's a notable one during the first verse). His guitar has a little more bite than was typical, for whatever reason.
I love Bob Weir's playing. Here's why: In most bands, the bass, lead and rhythm guitars all play the same notes/chords at the same time. The only time they vary, is when the lead guitar takes off for a solo, while the bass and rhythm keep repeating the same theme. Then when the solo is done, they're all back in sync. That can get very boring.

What makes the Dead's sound so interesting, is that the bass, lead and rhythm guitars, most of the time are playing something different. If and when they sync up, they quickly veer apart. Then, each time they play a song, they change the changes. If these changes don't occur, you don't have the Grateful Dead, you have every other rock band. That is too much for most casual listener's ears. But for some people like me, it's an intoxicating variation from boredom. So, what's the glue that holds it all together? It's the lead vocal melodies, which are very consistent and don't change much from their recognizable lyrics and tune. If everything changes, all the time, you've got jazz. Add in Hunter's great lyrics and you have something that will will keep people interested for a century or more.

Weir's parts are unpredictable, very creative, sometimes random sounds, not hard to play, but always add something interesting to the sound, which is something the vast majority of rock rhythm guitarist don't do. Most of them are strictly there to play the chords when the lead guitar player is soloing.

So, yeah. I love Bob Weir's rhythm playing. He adds great texture to the songs without your knowing he's there, unless you train yourself to listen for him. Once you discover his parts, it's great. It's fascinating to try to listen for him and follow what he's doing.

I'm going to listen to the 12/31/72 Brown Eyed Women, right now and see if I can pick out his parts.
 
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I love Bob Weir's playing. Here's why: In most bands, the bass, lead and rhythm guitars all play the same notes/chords at the same time. The only time they vary, is when the lead guitar takes off for a solo, while the bass and rhythm keep repeating the same theme. Then when the solo is done, they're all back in sync. That can get very boring.

What makes the Dead's sound so interesting, is that the bass, lead and rhythm guitars, most of the time are playing something different. If and when they sync up, they quickly veer apart. Then, each time they play a song, they change the changes. If these changes don't occur, you don't have the Grateful Dead, you have every other rock band. That is too much for most casual listener's ears. But for some people like me, it's an intoxicating variation from boredom. So, what's the glue that holds it all together? It's the lead vocal melodies, which are very consistent and don't change much from their recognizable lyrics and tune. If everything changes, all the time, you've got jazz. Add in Hunter's great lyrics and you have something that will will keep people interested for a century or more.

Weir's parts are unpredictable, very creative, sometimes random sounds, not hard to play, but always add something interesting to the sound, which is something the vast majority of rock rhythm guitarist don't do. Most of them are strictly there to play the chords when the lead guitar player is soloing.

So, yeah. I love Bob Weir's rhythm playing. He adds great texture to the songs without your knowing he's there, unless you train yourself to listen for him. Once you discover his parts, it's great. It's fascinating to try to listen for him and follow what he's doing.

I'm going to listen to the 12/31/72 Brown Eyed Women, right now and see if I can pick out his parts.
This is a good one for hearing Bob. He and Kreutzman are high in the mix. The standouts in terms of picking out Bob, for me anyway, are Brown Eyed Women, Tennessee Jed, Casey Jones, and Mississippi Half-Step. They boogie on a lot of the old 12-bar blues tunes, though - Around and Around and Don't Ease really rock!

Edit: Bob even plays something a little different on these simple blues songs. He's not just wobbling back and forth on the 5th and 6th for each chord. It's fun to hear.
 
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This is a good one for hearing Bob. He and Kreutzman are high in the mix. The standouts in terms of picking out Bob, for me anyway, are Brown Eyed Women, Tennessee Jed, Casey Jones, and Mississippi Half-Step. They boogie on a lot of the old 12-bar blues tunes, though - Around and Around and Don't Ease really rock!
Did you see that track I posts a few months back that had only Weir's guitar? It was crazy
 
Did you see that track I posts a few months back that had only Weir's guitar? It was crazy
Yes! I actually went back and listened to that and fished around for a few similar isolation tracks, as well.
 
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Did you see that track I posts a few months back that had only Weir's guitar? It was crazy
There's an entire thread dedicated to it on some Telecaster forum I stumbled across:

 
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There's an entire thread dedicated to it on some Telecaster forum I stumbled across:

Later on, they start talking about Joe Pass and chord melodies - if you haven't listened to solo Joe Pass, I would give him a whirl. The man was a genius.
 
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Later on, they start talking about Joe Pass and chord melodies - if you haven't listened to solo Joe Pass, I would give him a whirl. The man was a genius.
I'll have to check both of those out. I do like jazz. Miles Davis, Coltrane, of course. For guitar, John Scofield is cool (album, This Meets That). There's an old album by a guy named Al Di Meola called Casino, and when I first started playing guitar, I'd listen to it and try to play his parts. Just nuts.
 
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@24GaugeEJ by the way if you're not on Grateful Thread, yet, check it out. Same screen name & pic for me.
 
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I'll have to check both of those out. I do like jazz. Miles Davis, Coltrane, of course. For guitar, John Scofield is cool. There's an old album by a guy named Al Di Meola called Casino, and when I first started playing guitar, I'd listen to it and try to play his parts. Just nuts.
Very familiar with those fellows. There was an album I used to listen to constantly called "Friday Night in San Francisco" featuring Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, and Paco de Lucia. Joe Pass is different, definitely a bit more melodic and laid back, though he did do some crazy fast stuff with Oscar Peterson (some great live performances on YouTube). Wes Montgomery was always a favorite of mine, too. I'll get over to the Grateful Thread posthaste!
 
Joe Pass is different, definitely a bit more melodic and laid back...
Playing right now while doing procedures. Sounds cool, and actually perfect for doing procedures.
 
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Playing right now while doing procedures. Sounds cool, and actually perfect for doing procedures.
You're in interventional pain, correct? I should keep that on my radar...
 
Yeah. 10+ years of EM, then fellowship.
There's certainly something to be said for the road less traveled. Glad you get to enjoy some good music while working!
 
I was listening to the 7/22/84 show and was thinking about Bob Weir's playing. Curious what you guys think of his work as a rhythm guitarist. I definitely appreciate his unique chord voicings and the way that he fills the space between Jerry's more traditional chords and the piano. I found an old favorite show of mine that I recall having Bobby pretty high in the mix, particularly during Brown Eyed Women: Brown Eyed Women 12/31/72 Grateful Dead

Bobby just has the faintest touch of distortion, which manifests to a greater or lesser degree depending upon how hard he hits the strings, but it still sounds pretty clean. You can hear him really well. He has a couple of angry chords in this version (you'll know what I mean when that distortion kicks in the slightest bit - there's a notable one during the first verse). His guitar has a little more bite than was typical, for whatever reason.

I'm kind of "eehhhh" on bob weir's playing. I'm sorry to say. I think he fit well in the band...but I can't say definitely that he is a great guitarist. he seems to struggle to smoothly play the guitar. It seems more of an effort for him to play than other guitarists.

First, I love his voice. Think it's great.

I keep on thinking about Birdstrike's post several months on this thread ago where he found a Youtube video of a Dead show and it just recorded Bob's playing. For some reason the other instruments were not recorded as well. Half the time I couldn't tell what song was being played. It seemed disjointed. It didn't seem musical.

I agree in general with the notion that Dead's improvisational inertia was powered primarily by Garcia and Lesh.
 
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I'm kind of "eehhhh" on bob weir's playing. I'm sorry to say. I think he fit well in the band...but I can't say definitely that he is a great guitarist. he seems to struggle to smoothly play the guitar. It seems more of an effort for him to play than other guitarists.

First, I love his voice. Think it's great.

I keep on thinking about Birdstrike's post several months on this thread ago where he found a Youtube video of a Dead show and it just recorded Bob's playing. For some reason the other instruments were not recorded as well. Half the time I couldn't tell what song was being played. It seemed disjointed. It didn't seem musical.

I agree in general with the notion that Dead's improvisational inertia was powered primarily by Garcia and Lesh.
I agree that he might not be the natural musician that Garcia was and that Lesh is, at least in terms of tapping into melody in improvisation, but I do think that he was every bit as innovative in his respective role. I might be misinterpreting this, but I think that it's hard to tell what he's doing without the rest of the band because his goal seemed to be filling in the gaps with unique chord voicings. He really does not play rhythm like any other guitarist I've seen - watching concert footage, I'm really hard pressed to find him ever playing a barre chord. He's usually playing some kind of weird triad or inversion that would simply never dawn on me to play (not that I'm very good anyway), or that would take me 20 minutes to work out. Even relatively simple songs like He's Gone...he just takes a unique turn at it. Jerry is often playing what I would think of as classical rhythm guitar; just strumming open position chords or barre chords.

It's easier to pick out Bobby in the early and mid 70s...he starts using that tone I don't like in the late 70s/80s, and just sounds tinny or gets lost in the mix at times.
 
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I listened to a bit today. His technique is incredible and I like that type of improvisational jazz. Thanks for the tip.
No problem. The guy is definitely something else. Was always surprised he wasn’t more talked about in jazz circles.
 
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This might be the best sounding audience tape I've ever heard. I put in my airpods, close my eyes and I'm there in the front row! It's nearly as clear as a soundboard, has good stereo separation, some crowd noise but not at all muddy. If someone told me this was a soundboard, or that they had microphones up the band's a**, I'd believe them. To start, I hear a sweet and soulful Mississippi Half-step and a stand alone Franklin's with Brent just pushin' Jerry hard, with that gnarly organ.

I think this is gonna be a good show. My project the next 24 hours:

7/25/82 Compton Terrace Amphitheatre
 
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This might be the best sounding audience tape I've ever heard. I put in my airpods, close my eyes and I'm there in the front row! It's nearly as clear as a soundboard, has good stereo separation, some crowd noise but not at all muddy. If someone told me this was a soundboard, or that they had microphones up the band's a**, I'd believe them. To start, I hear a sweet and soulful Mississippi Half-step and a stand alone Franklin's with Brent just pushin' Jerry hard, with that gnarly organ.

I think this is gonna be a good show. My project the next 24 hours:

7/25/82 Compton Terrace Amphitheatre
Thoughts on the Compton Terrace show, yet? I skimmed through a couple tracks and thought it was pretty good - a lot of Brent on the B3 and a traditional piano, rather than the electronic keys. Could be a solid show.
 
Thoughts on the Compton Terrace show, yet? I skimmed through a couple tracks and thought it was pretty good - a lot of Brent on the B3 and a traditional piano, rather than the electronic keys. Could be a solid show.
I listened to all of it today. It’s exactly how you describe it: Pretty good. It’s a very clear audience tape (Jim Wise/Charlie Miller). All the songs are solid B/B+. I didn’t hear any “top tend best ever” songs. But there’s no stinkers. Everyone came to play, including Brent sans plink-board, but I can’t say anyone was out to make a statement.
 
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I listened to all of it today. It’s exactly how you describe it: Pretty good. It’s a very clear audience tape (Jim Wise/Charlie Miller). All the songs are solid B/B+. I didn’t hear any “top tend best ever” songs. But there’s no stinkers. Everyone came to play, including Brent sans plink-board, but I can’t say anyone was out to make a statement.
Nice. I'm looking forward to at least one of the Red Rocks shows from '82 to surface over the next few days. I've heard that they were great, but have never listened to them, myself.
 
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7/27/73 Watkins Glen

This is a cool "show" which is actually a soundcheck the day before what at the time was the largest festival concert the world had ever seen (Summer Jam at Watkins Glen) that turned into a mini-show, since thousands of fans had already camped out the night before. It's relatively short (1:40) but very good.

Highlights:

Extended, jammed-out Bird Song, which rivals some of the best versions ever.

Weird but cool 20 minute Jam leading into Wharf Rat, which goes everywhere, with jazzy moments and possibly even embryonic bits of Fire On The Mountain.

Some pics I found on the internet, from the weekend.
 
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