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From a doctor's perspective, is it better to repeal or keep the healthcare reform bill?
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From a doctor's perspective, is it better to repeal or keep the healthcare reform bill?
Thanks.
I think most doctors have conceded that healthcare is a mess and some form of change needs to happen, and is going to happen. Views are mixed as to whether the current act (no longer a bill) is workable, or whether some other plan would be better for the country. I think the embracing of midlevels under the administrations plan gives a lot if doctors pause.
From a doctor's perspective, is it better to repeal or keep the healthcare reform bill?
Thanks.
Most docs polarize to one side or the other, they either think the act should be completely thrown out or think that it doesn't do enough (ie. we need universal coverage). I don't think anyone really thinks this act is the optimal solution. Interestingly, I have noticed that this polarization also has strong predictive power for whether docs would encourage someone to enter the field. Those who think the act should be tossed tend to think that medicine isn't a good choice anymore, while those favoring UHC seem to be very optimistic. I take this to mean that both sides of the debate see the writing on the wall and know it will only be a matter of time till we get UHC.
I know no one can predict its impact in the future. I am just interested in hearing opinions from doctors or future doctors.
In the US, in the current system. Health care is both an unalienable right and an inelastic good.
Universal healthcare would help in allowing those who currently do not pay, pay; as well as those who currently do pay, pay more. Private health care will not go anywhere, just the government will pick up the tab for the bottom is all.
No, no doctor I respect agrees or wants Obama care.
Added government intrusion will simply expand bureaucracy, paperwork and generate pseudojobs of useless people, increase costs, lower quality, and reduce patient choice. Forcing small businesses to pay for this will hurt the economy further, but this president doesnt care and has never had a real job and knows nothing. And we're going to force self employed or unemployed to buy their own insurance or else pay a fine. That makes sense. Let's also round up homeless people and put them in jail if they dont have a mortgage payment too.
No, no doctor I respect agrees or wants Obama care.
Added government intrusion will simply expand bureaucracy, paperwork and generate pseudojobs of useless people, increase costs, lower quality, and reduce patient choice. Forcing small businesses to pay for this will hurt the economy further, but this president doesnt care and has never had a real job and knows nothing. And we're going to force self employed or unemployed to buy their own insurance or else pay a fine. That makes sense. Let's also round up homeless people and put them in jail if they dont have a mortgage payment too.
Lesnar was initially stricken with diverticulitis during a hunting in trip in western Manitoba, Canada, in Nov. 2009. The 6'3", 265-pound fighter was taken to the Brandon Regional Health Authority, which at the time didn't have a working CT machine.
He spent a weekend in the hospital, bedridden, hopped up on heavy doses of painkillers (morphine), waiting in agony for the staff to diagnose and treat his illness.
That answer never came because of the inability to see what was happening inside his stomach.
So rather than continue to let time "slip away," Lesnar and his wife, Rena (widely known as Sable), made a run for the border, leaving the "Third World" Canadian healthcare (his words, not mine) in the dust and heading four hours to the nearest medical facility in the United States, which was a hospital in Bismarck, North Dakota.
It was a decision that he feels may have saved his career ... possibly even his life:
"I put my faith in the doctors at that hospital. I shouldn't have. It almost cost me my career. It almost cost me my life."
Stein, he never said no doctor wants Obamacare-- he said "doctor I respect." Let's not be pedantic here, if you want to draw party lines, I could have prefaced this statement with "brought to you by CNN" or "anyone in Portland."
In the US, in the current system. Health care is both an unalienable right and an inelastic good.
This means that no matter how much money you make, you are entitled to life saving measures. If you show up with a life threatening issue or seemingly so, you are entitled to treatment. You will still be issued a bill. You still owe money for having to use healthcare.
Say you are an illegal immigrant and were drunk and assaulted and stabbed in the brain, among other areas. You are now paraplegic. You can not take care of yourself, nor has your family identified you. Welcome to American healthcare..
Likewise, say you present to your PCP for confusion and have focal findings. Say he admits you to the hospital and gets an MRI brain and finds a cerebral abscess. Needless to say we operate to fix it and you don't wake up exactly like you were because you had an infection and associated edema.We treat you inpatient for 2 months. ID signs off Welcome to American healthcare..
Very easy to bankrupt yourself or anyone involved unless you are insured (or even if you are not).
Universal healthcare would help in allowing those who currently do not pay, pay; as well as those who currently do pay, pay more. Private health care will not go anywhere, just the government will pick up the tab for the bottom is all.
Billions of dollars can by saved by reducing or eliminating medicare fraud.
Or the government can spend over $75 million to save $7600 in fraud. Yay government!!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/23/77-million-medicare-fraud-catcher-solves-very-litt/
Or the government can spend over $75 million to save $7600 in fraud. Yay government!!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/23/77-million-medicare-fraud-catcher-solves-very-litt/
I assume youre referring to Obamacare, which had nothing to do with healthcare reform. Nobody who actually knows what's in that bill considers it healthcare reform.
If anything its an insurance regulation bill.
In any case, it will be struck down by the supreme court. If not, our republic is lost. Rome lasted 700 years and we are struggling to make it to 300.
I assume youre referring to Obamacare, which had nothing to do with healthcare reform. Nobody who actually knows what's in that bill considers it healthcare reform.
If anything its an insurance regulation bill.
In any case, it will be struck down by the supreme court. If not, our republic is lost. Rome lasted 700 years and we are struggling to make it to 300.
No, no doctor I respect agrees or wants Obama care.
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To say that no respectable doctor wants Obamacare is a bit of a stretch.
Bro, typical for someone who watches CNN. You didn't even read what he wrote.
He is saying, "no doctor I respect..." that is a far cry from no respectable doctor wants obamacare....FACT.
In the US, in the current system. Health care is both an unalienable right and an inelastic good.
I assume youre referring to Obamacare, which had nothing to do with healthcare reform. Nobody who actually knows what's in that bill considers it healthcare reform.
If anything its an insurance regulation bill.
In any case, it will be struck down by the supreme court. If not, our republic is lost. Rome lasted 700 years and we are struggling to make it to 300.
Where in the Constitution does it say that health care is an unalienable right and an inelastic good?
Health care is a NOT a right. If it's a right, then I guess doctors are slaves.
Well, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is in the Declaration. And I would say no healthcare = no happiness, possibly no life.
I just can't relate to these hardass lines of not wanting to see everyone get healthcare. I mean, wtf?
So people with colon cancer who can't afford chemotherapy should just crawl into a corner and die?
Where in the Constitution does it say that health care is an unalienable right and an inelastic good?
Health care is a NOT a right. If it's a right, then I guess doctors are slaves.
No happiness isn't the same thing as being unable to pursue happiness. You need to figure out the difference between a positive and a negative right.
I already called him on it. He actually edited his post, it used to just say "any doctor." He apologized though.
That's semantics dude. Clearly you're not going to be able to pursue happiness if you have colon cancer and are dying because you can't get it treated.
Well hell! I can't pursue happiness without food, clothing (illegal to be naked in public) shoes and a whole host of other things. I guess the constitution gives me the right to those things too!! Er, no, it really doesn't.
Well hell! I can't pursue happiness without food, clothing (illegal to be naked in public) shoes and a whole host of other things. I guess the constitution gives me the right to those things too!! Er, no, it really doesn't.
Way to to be a douche and completely miss my point.
By the way, it's the Declaration of Independence and not the Constitution that discusses the "pursuit of happiness." *******.
Real easy to talk about how healthcare isn't a right when you yourself have it. Comes with being a privileged white kid I guess.
Just to get this straight--all the people with cancer and no health insurance who can't afford the treatments deserve to die? You say they don't deserve healthcare, so let's call it like it is--they deserve to die?
I don't know any doctors who love treating uninsured patients. Quite the opposite.
I do know plenty of doctors who are sick and tired of bending over backwards to please the useless skimming insurance companies, so in that regard they aren't fans of Obamacare.
They dont have the RIGHT to take my money that is for sure...
Everyone is going to die, its not avoidable. I dont think the government's purpose is to maximize everyone's lifespan...I could explain why its mathematically impossible to have this type of policy in the next 50-150 years.
Well, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is in the Declaration. And I would say no healthcare = no happiness, possibly no life.
I just can't relate to these hardass lines of not wanting to see everyone get healthcare. I mean, wtf?
So people with colon cancer who can't afford chemotherapy should just crawl into a corner and die?
There are many doctors supporting Obamacare and just as many opposing it. The AMA, for example, supported at least a big part of the bill.
It's weird to hear people going into medicine that think not all people should have health care.
In the end, it costs everyone if an uninsured person has to wait 10 years to get treated because his illness has gotten so bad that one of the local hospital has to treat him/her.
Universal health care would hopefully prevent many people's diseases from progressing and costing society more in the end. At least this is an argument that I keep hearing in favor of Obamacare.
We have to be honest and say that US healthcare sucks in regard to infant mortality . Not sure how all of this can be solved, but a black/white perspective won't help anyone. Unfortunately this is exactly what the US is famous for - a polarizing country where most people either are like "wtf" or "omg iluv".
They dont have the RIGHT to take my money that is for sure...
Everyone is going to die, its not avoidable.
There are no edits in any of my posts. Go ahead and check.
Way to to be a douche and completely miss my point.
By the way, it's the Declaration of Independence and not the Constitution that discusses the "pursuit of happiness." *******.
Real easy to talk about how healthcare isn't a right when you yourself have it. Comes with being a privileged white kid I guess.
Wow, look at you putting all these words in my mouth, Your jump-to-conclusions mat is getting quite a workout.Just to get this straight--all the people with cancer and no health insurance who can't afford the treatments deserve to die? You say they don't deserve healthcare, so let's call it
like it is--they deserve to die?