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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by BlameItOnTheNurse, Mar 15, 2002.

  1. I am in a tough situation. I have been accepted to FSUmed and I am waiting to here from miami. I was impressed w/ miami, but the expected budget for 4 yrs runs close to 200K, while FSU is around 100K. For those of you who are not familiar w/ FSU, this will be the second yr of it's med program; however, they failed to get accreditation from the Board of Reagents last month. They have the funds for the med program, but not the accreditation. they expect to get it. The asst dean at FSU told me that USF and UF both failed to be accredited the first yr they applied. If i get into miami, is it worth the extra 100grand or should i take a chance w/FSU??
    i figured if i want to get into a more competitive residency-miami would be the way to go b/c of they reputation?
     
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  3. Pokey

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    Blame, how ironic--this is my first post as <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> well. I am also very interested in the Florida school situation. I have been accepted to FSU, have interviewed at USF and UF and am scheduled for an interview at Miami soon. This is a tough call for sure. I think Florida State has a chance to put together something special, but I don't know if I want to go through all of their growing pains. When it comes to the residency match, it's impossible to gauge how FSU will hold up. I'm concerned that since we would be part of only the second class ever, residency directors would have virtually nothing to go on. It will take years before FSU grads will be able to develop a reputation. Although Miami is pricey, it may be more worthwhile to go after the sure thing. That is, of course, if we even get there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
     
  4. THE instiGATOR

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    If those were my two options, I would choose Miami and not think twice about it. FSU is a hot potato now, regardless of whether it will be accredited soon. In four years, it will still be a school of questionable quality (it will not have established a reputation by then). You want to get into the best residency programs, right? Go to Miami.

    $0.02

    PS - SCREW ALL FLORIDA SCHOOLS! Maybe not Miami and FSU, since I withdrew from one and didn't apply to the other.
     
  5. PelicanMan

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    Miami

    Better School, Getter Women, Better Food
     
  6. PelicanMan

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    by the way

    BlameitontheNurse

    That is the best damn screen name I have seen.

    :D
     
  7. Pokey,
    your not considering FSU over any other state school, are you? My only concern is miami's cost. I would definitely go to USF if I was accepted there. The only thing i liked about FSU was the small class size of 40 students and the tuition cost. thanks for posting
     
  8. PelicanMan,
    I am just getting practice of "blaming it on the nurse"; hell, i know i will be using that later down the road
    glad you liked it. Good luck with the new lyrics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  9. Pokey

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    No, no. I would definitely choose USF or UF over both FSU and Miami at this point. With the small class size, innovative faculty, and free computers and palm pilots, Florida State has an intriguing package. But, once again too much instability. This won't be a tough choice if I get into UF/USF. I can't wait to here some news from these two.
     
  10. MiamiMarmot

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    Here's how I rank the Florida schools. By the way, I know that Miami gives out a bunch of scholarships every year. (UF and USF are still way way cheaper, though) Someone who knows more than me about costs may want to revise my rankings. Sorry if I piss anyone off, I'm just subjectively ranking schools based on my experience.

    1. Florida: I interviewed here...regardless of cost, this is bar none the best med school in Florida in terms of academic quality. The student body is incredibly friendly to boot. I hope to god this is where I go next year.
    2. Miami: I got in here. Miami rocks the party in terms of clinical experience, but their first two yrs of basic science are supposed to suck.
    3. USF: I no nothing about USF, so I'm ignorant on this one. When I applied, I didn't know that USF had a med school. Sorry, I go to school up north.
    4. FSU: Isn't even I licensed med school for crying out loud. Do you really want to worry about that when you're going to school. No, I don't think so.
     
  11. THE instiGATOR

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    I don't think your list is too far from the truth, Marmot. I do think USF may be better than Miami. As you don't know much about USF, I don't know much about Miami. I interviewed at USF and was extremely impressed. People I knew at UF who are attending USF COM now say they prefer USF even to UF!!!

    As I have said before, though...the school can kiss it! I didn't like being dropped from their waitlist! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  12. Papa Smurf

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MiamiMarmot:
    <strong>Here's how I rank the Florida schools. By the way, I know that Miami gives out a bunch of scholarships every year. (UF and USF are still way way cheaper, though) Someone who knows more than me about costs may want to revise my rankings. Sorry if I piss anyone off, I'm just subjectively ranking schools based on my experience.

    1. Florida: I interviewed here...regardless of cost, this is bar none the best med school in Florida in terms of academic quality. The student body is incredibly friendly to boot. I hope to god this is where I go next year.
    2. Miami: I got in here. Miami rocks the party in terms of clinical experience, but their first two yrs of basic science are supposed to suck.
    3. USF: I no nothing about USF, so I'm ignorant on this one. When I applied, I didn't know that USF had a med school. Sorry, I go to school up north.
    4. FSU: Isn't even I licensed med school for crying out loud. Do you really want to worry about that when you're going to school. No, I don't think so.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto on the list. Florida State needs to prove themselves. They'll be accredited, I don't doubt it, but I don't really like Tallahassee. Then again, you can do your rotations in Orlando or Jacksonville, so that's pretty cool.

    UF is the best med school in Florida, hands down, no questions asked. The problem is that they know it's true, and don't bother interviewing scrubs like me. Very elitist attitude! I don't like it!

    UM &lt;-----I would love to go here. Med school is what you make of it, and I could suffer through the pain of the curriculum changes if it meant I got to go to med school in Miami. Nothing but love for Jackson Memorial!

    USF: I dunno, I don't care. They don't know I'm alive. I sent them a status e-mail many weeks ago, still no response! They have the most incompetent admissions office I've ever seen. Freaking lost my letters of rec! If I hadn't called to see if my file was complete, I would've never known about it. Not that it matters, cause even though it's complete now, they still don't love me...
     
  13. Vasiley Zaitsev

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    FSU sucks! Avg. MCAT for acceptance is 24. That's just the tip of the iceberg...

    Too bad they did away with the 2 yr FSU/2 yr UF program which resulted in a UF MD degree :mad:

    owcc16
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>Public Service Announcement:

    FSU sucks! Avg. MCAT for acceptance is 24. That's just the tip of the iceberg...

    Too bad they did away with the 2 yr FSU/2 yr UF program which resulted in a UF MD degree :mad:

    owcc16</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> It doesn't suck if you are one of the people with a 24! <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />

    They rejected me last year with a 26. Commies!
     
  15. Papa Smurf

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>Public Service Announcement:

    FSU sucks! Avg. MCAT for acceptance is 24. That's just the tip of the iceberg...

    Too bad they did away with the 2 yr FSU/2 yr UF program which resulted in a UF MD degree :mad:

    owcc16</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haha! That's bull**** and you know it. 24 MCAT? Please!! And there was never a 2yr FSU/ 2 yr UF program. It was a 1 yr FSU/ 3 years UF program called PIMS that they had to do away with if they wanted their own med school. Where do you do go to school anyway?
     
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  17. MiamiMarmot

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    Does anyone know if UM Med is actually improving the quality of their basic science years with their "new curriculum." I'm apprehensive about going there because all I hear is: "the first two years at UM, suck!" Regardless, they're number 2 on my list because their match list is actually damn good (Maybe even better than UF's, I've looked at both), and their clinical exposure is rockin'.
     
  18. Vasiley Zaitsev

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    Oh, and might I mention..FSU is primary care only.

    FSU's 3rd and 4th yrs will suck. Doctors I shadow locally say that they have been approached to conduct 3rd and 4th yr rotations @ local hospitals and in their private practices...mind you, local hospitals that are TINY! They (the docs) have told me to avoid FSU like the plague...

    owcc16
     
  19. Vasiley Zaitsev

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>Public Service Announcement:

    FSU sucks! Avg. MCAT for acceptance is 24. That's just the tip of the iceberg...

    Too bad they did away with the 2 yr FSU/2 yr UF program which resulted in a UF MD degree :mad:

    owcc16</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haha! That's bull**** and you know it. 24 MCAT? Please!! And there was never a 2yr FSU/ 2 yr UF program. It was a 1 yr FSU/ 3 years UF program called PIMS that they had to do away with if they wanted their own med school. Where do you do go to school anyway?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">what is bull**** about it? FSU does suck. That's my opinion..you don't have to take it.

    owcc16
     
  20. Papa Smurf

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>Public Service Announcement:

    FSU sucks! Avg. MCAT for acceptance is 24. That's just the tip of the iceberg...

    Too bad they did away with the 2 yr FSU/2 yr UF program which resulted in a UF MD degree :mad:

    owcc16</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haha! That's bull**** and you know it. 24 MCAT? Please!! And there was never a 2yr FSU/ 2 yr UF program. It was a 1 yr FSU/ 3 years UF program called PIMS that they had to do away with if they wanted their own med school. Where do you do go to school anyway?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">what is bull**** about it? FSU does suck. That's my opinion..you don't have to take it.

    owcc16</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The fact that you said their avg MCAT for acceptance was 24 was what I said was BS. I'm sitting here with a 32, and can't even get an freaking invite. Where do you go, UWF? You better pray that you rock the MCAT, cause the Florida schools will piss all over you otherwise! It's more competitive than ever in this state. UF only has 100 seats, USF has 100 seats, Miami is taking more out of staters, so they'll only have 100 seats for Florida residents. So that's 300 seats that you'll be fighting 1400 applicants for. And not to be an elitist or anything, but coming from UWF, you're fighting an uphill battle as it is. With UF going IVY this year, you're already screwed.
     
  21. Pokey, welcome to SDN. (beat you again SMW :p )

    PS. i don't know about UF going IVY Papa Smurf. i know a guy who interviewed there with an above average gpa, but average mcat. so yes, those bastards are much more selective, but who's gonna actually attend sorry ass goddamn UF when those same people accepted can attend a REAL ivy league school. i mean, yeah it's good AND it's cheap, but at the rate we *think* they're going..all their acceptees will be matriculating in better schools. so when the smoke clears, those picky fruit cakes will be seen standing in the middle of the room with their pants down around their ankles. they will not make a sudden rise in rankings in one year, and they will not make a sudden change in their accepted-student stats in one year. i know it. so we'll laugh at them soon enough guys, don't sweat it. and Papa, the fact that they didn't interview you is a complete friggin mystery. YOU at least, had a very solid application. mine was good, but i had some holes...i'm surprised they didn't interview you. and to ocww(sp?), you're right, FSU isn't that good, but your ass is still probably gonna apply like a little punk...putting their application in the mailbox in the middle of the night so nobody sees you.... i mean..that might be your only florida acceptance because Papa Smurf was not really exaggerating that much about this Florida Catastrophe!
     
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    Hey, BlameIt and Pokey....when did you get accepted and what can you tell me about it (and please be specific--did you get a big packet, a phone call...what?!)? Unlike the rest of you, FSU is my top choice and I am waiting desperately to hear something from them (I'm very interested in primary care and medical missions...I think the program is pioneering and I'd take my chances). Praying to be pulled off their wait-list!
     
  23. ditwee,
    i feel bad for you and me. fsu is the only school to accept me and they used to be my
    #1 choice(my parents are moving up in the panhandle). However, the events from February has made me prefer Miami
    They called my self and my friend the following week to accept. Ditwee, i think that many of the accepted student are going somewhere else so you have a good chance there. Have you interview any where else.

    For everyone that is doggin FSU, the avg mcat according to asst dean is 27 and gpa around 3.5.
    Alot of school inflate there #'s but this is what i was told

    Is UF going ivy league this yr? what is that all about?

    What about the rumor that UF med students cant pass the boards. does this factor affect your decision for the #1 school in florida?

    "Dont feel bad if any of you have been rejected. Student doctor network denied my initial application for membership. i felt like a real loser" :mad:
     
  24. Vasiley Zaitsev

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>
     
  25. Papa Smurf

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>
     
  26. praying4MD

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    Yikes. And people accuse me of overreacting... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />

    We have officially crossed into TPR territory, please use your emergency exits to escape from TPR hell. :rolleyes:
     
  27. Papa Smurf

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by praying4MD:
    <strong>Yikes. And people accuse me of overreacting... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />

    We have officially crossed into TPR territory, please use your emergency exits to escape from TPR hell. :rolleyes: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Awww, praying4MD, why you gotta be like that? Ya know I'm just an innocuous smurf, right? :)
     
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    Alright, before people go and blast me for overreacting, he edited his post. Look at what I quoted, and what he has in there now. One is much more inflammatory and personal than the other. Otherwise, I would've just laughed it off. :rolleyes:
     
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    Excuses, excuses. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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    i love this stuff.

    This has gotta be the best post I have seen in a long ass time.

    Its great. keep it up
     
  31. you asking me if Im from uwf? I am from lil' UCF.
     
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    This site is really unbelievable! I've been left with huge gaps of time and lots anxious waiting between each step of this application process, so these discussions help fill the void.

    All I can say is don't bite your nose off. Florida State may not be the best school in the state, but when all is said and done it may be your only choice. I would love to be be accepted elsewhere, but for now FSU is all I have.

    When this process began my number 1 goal was to get into medical school. I may not get into my favorite school, but for me, it's a whole lot better to go to FSU than to sit out another year.
    This is my opinion, to be sure. Everyone else has their own plans and agendas, so maybe this doesn't make sense for some. All I can say is that I've worked extremely hard to get to this point AND I am grateful for any opportunity I have. I will make the best of it.
     
  33. any new fish that start **** with my boys on here are gonna run into trouble with me too. got that owcc?

    you need to chill your grill with all your lame ass talk. not even I started talking all that **** THAT early...you need to wait a few months before you can get away with that.

    it always bothers old people when younger people act insolently. well it bothers the sdn veterans when young punks like you come on here disrespecting the more experienced veterans of the game. Papa Smurf is a very nice guy, so if you thought otherwise, you're mistaken. leave him alone, and stop talking sh!t about schools that you might not even get into if you applied. at your stage, you know very little, and you're on here to learn from us, and ask us (and to some extent each other--although this early, which one of you knows anything?) questions. so don't bite the hand that feeds you.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by A. Caveman:
    <strong>any new fish that start **** with my boys on here are gonna run into trouble with me too. got that owcc?... not even I started talking all that **** THAT early...you need to wait a few months before you can get away with that... it bothers the sdn veterans when young punks like you come on here disrespecting the more experienced veterans of the game.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't believe even being at SDN longer than someone else has become a "status symbol." <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> Well, if it has, here are the facts A. Caveman. If "newbies" should shut up, maybe YOU should be aware of who is really new. The order of "hierarchy" is as follows:

    Praying4MD's Date of Registry: Feb 21, 2001
    Owcc's Date of Registry: March 6, 2001
    A. Caveman's Date of Registry: Dec. 3, 2001
    Papa Smurf's Date of Registry: Feb. 10. 2002

    I can remember owcc's posts from WAY back. Not that it matters, or not that I am taking sides, but these are facts. And it just goes to show that no one cares who's been here longer, least of all the new members such as you and Papa Smurf. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Looks like you guys are the "newbies" and should yield to US! <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> But I don't believe in that stupid idea that whoever has been here longer is better or should be treated like gods. After all, we let you in our "club," didn't we? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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    Actually, I retract that statement, maybe some members like Kimberli Cox, lilycat, SocialistMD, Col, Stinky Tofu, OldManDave, and some others DO deserve some more respect because they have been an endless source of help for many and/or have had very prolific posts that make us think, and/or have been here for ages. However, in this case, IMHO, the hierarchy of SDNers means nothing. Since no one is a particularly prolific poster or has done anything to deserve that much respect. :)
     
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    <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> I didn't say he was the dude I want to hang out with at USA, Papa. <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />

    I said he's a pretty cool cat who is interested in attending USA (I'm not so sure if he is interested in the FL schools at all). I think this thread has brought out the worst in both of you! <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SwampMan:
    <strong>this thread has brought out the worst in both of you! <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Absolutely! And for the record, I wasn't taking anyone's side because I personally thought both of you were pretty inflammatory to each other. I only wanted to make the point that just because you've been here longer doesn't entitle you to certain privileges or make you any better... usually. :)

    So cool how I just coverted an asinine thread of name-calling to an ethical question worth pondering... I think I deserve some kind of "Grand Member" status for all I contribute here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :D
     
  38. oh my god, praying4md, you're such a tool box. that message was out to all the newbies, not specifically aimed at owcc (not that part at least). i knew someone would misunderstand but didn't edit it cuz i wanted to see who the first fool would be. i guess that's you tiger.

    obviously i looked at those dates of registry, but they don't mean ****. look at how many posts people have..that tells you how involved they've been. true you can read without posting, but how can you make that leap..just assume that if someone has 1 post they've maybe have been reading for 3 years adn have read 4 billion posts. look at activity. and realize my message was aimed at all incoming members...and then realize you're a tool.
     
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    Dude, I don't even know what the point of this thread is anymore. I don't care who's been here how long, and who has how many posts, it's all irrelevant to me. If you have 15 posts or 1500 posts, I don't care. Just treat people with respect, and you'll be respected. Start ripping on people, and others will react, that's human nature. What I was trying to do is inform owcc16 that his naive notion about the Florida schools isn't on par with reality. I'm the last person to defend FSU, (after all I'm a gator <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ), but for that cat to come on here and say this sucks and that sucks and spread lies about a school when he's not even in this process yet is a bit ridiculous.

    Little does he know that the first thing that the Florida schools do once they get your AMCAS app is apply a correction factor to your GPA. How do I know this? I was told so by an admissions dean at one of the schools. Straight from the horses mouth! And where does that correction factor come from you might ask? Well, it's based on your school's national ranking. Fair? Probably not, but life in general isn't fair, and neither is medical school admissions. Hmmm... where is University of West Florida in the rankings? I dunno, but it ain't way up there last time I checked. Hence I told him he needed to kick the crap outta the MCAT if he wants any love from the Florida schools. That's the reality of it all.

    I dunno why you're even involved in this praying4MD. Look at how many heated arguments you get into over in the Lounge, no? What's the big deal if I yell and scream a lil' bit over here in Pre-Allo? Sorry, but I didn't bring you into this, no need to come in with your thumbs down all the time when someone voices a strong opinion. By getting involved, you're just making it worse, and dragging it out. Let the two individuals who are directly involved settle it. My $.02
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MiamiMarmot:
    <strong>Does anyone know if UM Med is actually improving the quality of their basic science years with their "new curriculum." I'm apprehensive about going there because all I hear is: "the first two years at UM, suck!" Regardless, they're number 2 on my list because their match list is actually damn good (Maybe even better than UF's, I've looked at both), and their clinical exposure is rockin'.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bro, the first two years everywhere suck. That's just med school in general. Some places suck less than others, but they all pretty much suck. Just be glad that you won't be in class from like 9-5 or anything insane like that at UM. As far as improving the quality of the basic science years, I think they're taking a lot of feedback from the first years. They were the guinea pigs, and I don't expect a repeat. Anyway, UM recruits a lot of good students. I have a friend who did undergrad at Harvard and chose UM for med school over UF and a lot of other more prestigious schools. BTW, what happened to UPitt? I thought that was your number 1?
     
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    Papa Smurf,

    Just to clarify, here's my personal ranked list of schools at which I have interviewed or will interview:

    1. Pitt
    2. Einstein
    3. UF
    4. UM

    You're probably right that the first two years suck everywhere. I just had a better interview experience at UF than I did at UM. To be honest, I really don't know which one is "better", regardless of cost. It's a close call.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by A. Caveman:
    <strong>oh my god, praying4md, you're such a tool box... i wanted to see who the first fool would be. i guess that's you tiger... realize you're a tool.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For anyone who doesn't know, " <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> " means a) it's a joke OR b) there is a point, but take it lightly, not much a serious point (or c) I'm flirting, which you should know anyway.)

    A. Caveman: While I would be thrilled to engage in yet another episode of name-calling & meaningless insults, really, I wasn't attacking you, just making a small point. Don't take things so seriously. :) Although you have insulted me numerous times in one post, I will take it upon myself not to hold it against you because hey, you haven't been here that long. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> {note the irony.} Seriously though, it's no big deal to me. Call me whatever you want, it doesn't affect me. I just try to retain the civility in here. :) Do I care what you think of me? Not in the least, but I'm not an angry person as such, so I don't hold it against you either.

    Take it easy & keep smiling people. :)
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by praying4MD:
    <strong>I just try to retain the civility in here. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Civility, eh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Your Honor, I would now like to introduce into evidence <a href="http://www.studentdoctor.net/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=003285&p=2" target="_blank">Exhibit A</a> and also <a href="http://www.studentdoctor.net/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003293;p=" target="_blank">Exhibit B.</a> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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    Nice one-- blackmail, eh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> As I've said before, when I actually provided YOU with those links, that was when I first joined SDN and was not familiar with it at all, and that is probably the most livid I have ever been on SDN.

    I apologized for my actions in a later thread, and Catherine and I were a-ok with each other.
    Trying to stir something up Papa? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Try harder because us veterans go way back and through all our fights and name-calling, we still know how to have a great debate, and then respect each other later. Watch and learn. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by praying4MD:
    <strong>Nice one-- blackmail, eh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> As I've said before, when I actually provided YOU with those links, that was when I first joined SDN and was not familiar with it at all, and that is probably the most livid I have ever been on SDN.

    I apologized for my actions in a later thread, and Catherine and I were a-ok with each other.
    Trying to stir something up Papa? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Try harder because us veterans go way back and through all our fights and name-calling, we still know how to have a great debate, and then respect each other later.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope, not trying to stir anything up. That's why I put the 3 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> in there. :) Don't take umbrage girl, remember it's a joke? :D Just trying to point out that we all fly off the handle sometimes like you did in those two threads, and I did last night. And in my opinion, that's alright cause we're both the type to wear our emotions on our sleeve. You too Caveman! :) Life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything. At times our reactions are justifiable, many times they aren't, but in the grand scheme of things it's irrelevant and I'm not the type of person to carry things from day to day, especially stuff said on SDN. Don't think I'll be needing those lessons from the "vets" anytime soon. I don't agree with half the stuff owcc says, but he has a right to say it. In real life, I'm as chill as they come. After all, I go to UF. We are the epitome of "chill," in case you didn't know! Caveman, all this talk about FSU is pointless, we are both gonna matriculate at UM like all the other cool cats throughout Florida and kick it, aight? Peace out.
     
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    I don't even know what you're discussing anymore. I also put winks in my last post, so now I'm just confused. :confused: Anyway, looks like the person trying to keep the peace is becoming the central attacking point, so I'll keep out from now.

    Carry on with your TPR-like banter. I'm sure someone out there got a kick out of it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by praying4MD:
    <strong>I don't even know what you're discussing anymore. I also put winks in my last post, so now I'm just confused. :confused: Anyway, looks like the person trying to keep the peace is becoming the central attacking point, so I'll keep out from now.

    Carry on with your TPR-like banter. I'm sure someone out there got a kick out of it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chill. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> I'm not attacking you. Where do you see an attack in the last post? I just emphasized that I don't agree with everything owcc says, but he has a right to say it, just as I have a right to espouse my views as well. That's the beauty of SDN: different viewpoints from different people. Sometimes, they'll clash, but no one should take anything on here personally, as we all sometimes have a tendency to do, that's all.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
    <strong>I dunno why you're even involved in this praying4MD. Look at how many heated arguments you get into over in the Lounge, no? What's the big deal if I yell and scream a lil' bit over here in Pre-Allo? Sorry, but I didn't bring you into this, no need to come in with your thumbs down all the time when someone voices a strong opinion. By getting involved, you're just making it worse, and dragging it out. Let the two individuals who are directly involved settle it. My $.02</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, I just re-read this and I guess you're right. Sorry to get involved (even though this is common practice on a public forum, as has been done several times to me in the past, specifically by you as well.) I will leave you two to settle it, even though owcc hasn't said a word in ages now.

    Anyway, sorry to get involved, I was just joking until the hierarchy thing was mentioned. Just wanted to say I am sorry about that. Guess I was just bored.

    Ok, now I'm really leaving. :)
     
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    <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />

    I respect the opinions of the people on SDN farther along in their medical careers than I...if not, I wouldn't be here.

    Like I said, FSU sucking is my opinion, formed by talking to many people involved in the planning and care-taking of the school. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to =D

    Once again, I will state: the FL med school situation sucks donkey ballz. Unlike some people here, however, I will accept that fact, and not continually bitch about it.

    owcc16
     
  50. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by praying4MD:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by A. Caveman:
    <strong>oh my god, praying4md, you're such a tool box... i wanted to see who the first fool would be. i guess that's you tiger... realize you're a tool.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For anyone who doesn't know, " <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> " means a) it's a joke OR b) there is a point, but take it lightly, not much a serious point (or c) I'm flirting, which you should know anyway.)

    A. Caveman: While I would be thrilled to engage in yet another episode of name-calling & meaningless insults, really, I wasn't attacking you, just making a small point. Don't take things so seriously. :) Although you have insulted me numerous times in one post, I will take it upon myself not to hold it against you because hey, you haven't been here that long. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> {note the irony.} Seriously though, it's no big deal to me. Call me whatever you want, it doesn't affect me. I just try to retain the civility in here. :) Do I care what you think of me? Not in the least, but I'm not an angry person as such, so I don't hold it against you either.

    Take it easy & keep smiling people. :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yes, i am thrilled to engage in another episode. your crap doesn't intimidate me, nor does making a fool of myself by insulting others. i will do it! and if this makes you feel like there's a "cute" tone to this argument, then here it is: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :p
     
  51. i'm sick and tired of this fake ass drama. you children need to chill out. if you don't jump at me, i won't jump in your ass. leave it at that..this thread has lost it's meaning, and i hope no one out of this immediate group reads it because i'm ashamed of it, and where it's gone (even though i didn't start it)
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by owcc16:
    <strong>Once again, I will state: the FL med school situation sucks donkey ballz. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Finally, something we can agree about! :D Like I said, you're more than entitled to your opinions. I kinda feel bad for people like Ditwee though, when you slam his/her top choice like that. Whether you go to med school at Harvard or St. Georges, no one likes to hear people diss their school. But, it's not personal, and I think that's what we all need to take away from this. And with that, I end this debate. See, that wasn't so hard, now was it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     

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