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andexterouss said:Not everyone is down with gay marriage including John Kerry.
he didn't claim that everyone was. what's your point?
andexterouss said:Not everyone is down with gay marriage including John Kerry.
Fed Meat said::You know, the other day, I was in Mississippi when I was driving to Tulane....
LauraMac said:oh, i was talking about sacrament as well. sorry, i didn't realize that you were being sarcastic, too. i think now that we have this very important matter straightened out we can finally move on to bigger and better things such as how sarcastic the pope may or may not be.
andexterouss said:My point is , he shouldn't be asking someone to support what he/she does not believe in or think is morally wrong.
sacrament said:I guess I should note that Portland does not, however, have much in the way of good fried chicken.
sacrament said:Actually I see we've got a Popeye's at 3120 NE MLK Blvd. I have no idea how gay-friendly it is.
midwesternguy said:Hey, I'm planning on applying this summer to matriculate in 2006, and am trying to complile a list of schools to apply to. After this whole issue this year with NYMC, I'm curious what other people think are the more gay friendly medical schools.
andexterouss said:My point is , he shouldn't be asking someone to support what he/she does not believe in or think is morally wrong.
Mateodaspy said:Many Southerners during the time of the Civil War thought the idea of treating blacks equally with full rights of citizenship was morally abhorrent. I'll feel free to insist that my civil rights (as a gay man wishing for equality under the law in my relationship) are non-negotiable and certainly not subject to some capricious reading of a text written thousands of years ago that has been quoted to promote the subjugation of woman, the enslavement of blacks, the genocide of Jews and the oppression of sexual minorities.
i'm not even going to attempt to understand thattacrum43 said:I guess I wasn't clear. You (LauraMac) said that I (tacrum43) was being sarcastic, yes? Then I was telling you (LauraMac) that he (sacrament) was also being sarcastic in his response to my post that you (LauraMac) had called sarcastic.
Really what I'm shocked about is that he's saying that Sacrament would be sarcastic.Psycho Doctor said:i'm not even going to attempt to understand that
Just to clarify, Sacrament is never sarcastic.Megalofyia said:Really what I'm shocked about is that he's saying that Sacrament would be sarcastic.
tacrum43 said:That's not really fair for gays and lesbians though, because even if they wanted to wait until they got married, they can't. Also, which new testament passages are you referring to?
LauraMac said:if you think homosexuality is a sin you should not be allowed to post in this thread. why would you say something so hurtful and mean to other people?
psycho, i take back my "sorry." you are condescending and rude to others, and i am not going to apologize to you and pretend like that's okay.
sorry OP that your thread is turning into this.
LauraMac said:i was just thinking about how ironic this is. nobody asked you whether you were christian, and you just threw it out there in this thread. also, i know your stance on just about every social issue, because you continually bring this stuff up in every thread. you're pro-life, super religious, think homosexuality is a sin, think premarital sex is a sin, etc. why do i know all this? because you continually bring it up even though no one has asked.
by the way, are you going to be one of those doctors who won't refer a patient to the appropriate doctor to get an abortion, because it is against YOUR moral code instead of worrying about HER moral code and what is best for HER?
thanks for the clarification; otherwise i'd never have realized thatbananaface said:Just to clarify, Sacrament is never sarcastic.
Psycho Doctor said:hey i didn't make the rules....
and to mention just a few:
Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
1 Corinthians 6:9 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders."
1 Timothy 1:9 "We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine"
Dont forget that we populated the planet with two people. And these two people had two sons....Brain said:It cracks me up to no end that people unquestionably accept things as "the truth" from a book that has people living inside of whales and living to be 900 years old. Really, give me a break.
Psycho Doctor said:actually it's not surprising at all. Christian (a true one) is synonomous with "pro-life, super religious, think homosexuality is a sin, think premarital sex is a sin". And I brought up the Chrisitian issue to indicate i'm also a minority in a morally, /emotionally charged stereotype, and one that often causes controversy, so in many ways i can identify with the situation.
Mateodaspy said:Since when did 'homosexuality is a sin' become one of the main tenets of Christianity? Jesus never spoke on the issue of homosexuality, however he spoke a great deal on the importance of charity and welfare to the poverty stricken. Why isn't that one of your main values? It's funny how instead of talking about that, you instead choose to focus on one "sin" (a sexual one of course) in your rant to defend your morally indefensible 'minority' status (which I suppose is best characterized by your religious bias and inability to reason).
Unfortunately that feature does have it's flaws.. like.. you are still aware that person exists.. so that you can see when they post.. and then you can see what they wrote when they are quoted.ajt2003 said:Or...you can always go to your user preferences and use the "ignore" feature. As I've said elsewhere, it's a simply *marvelous* component of SDN.
Megalofyia said:Dont forget that we populated the planet with two people. And these two people had two sons....
Mateodaspy said:Since when did 'homosexuality is a sin' become one of the main tenets of Christianity? Jesus never spoke on the issue of homosexuality, however he spoke a great deal on the importance of charity and welfare to the poverty stricken. Why isn't that one of your main values? It's funny how instead of talking about that, you instead choose to focus on one "sin" (a sexual one of course) in your rant to defend your morally indefensible 'minority' status (which I suppose is best characterized by your religious bias and inability to reason).
Psycho Doctor said:no not exactly...
Genesis 5:4 "After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. "
Brothers must have married sisters at the beginning. The law against close intermarriage was not given until the time of Moses "none of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him" (Leviticus 18:6). There was nothing wrong with brother and sister marriages, originally. If you think about it, that is the only way to populate the world, starting with only one pair. Even Abraham married his half sister with no condemnation from God, even though this was later forbidden.
Mateodaspy said:Jesus never spoke on the issue of homosexuality, however he spoke a great deal on the importance of charity and welfare to the poverty stricken. Why isn't that one of your main values?
GuyLaroche said:Stop posting this religious crap. Stop. Please, stop it! Stop.This is not a church. Stop. The SDN users are not your congregation. Stop. They are terribly bright people. Stop. They do not need to read this garbage. Stop. If they did, they would have paid attention to those horrid people who go from door to doort and bother innocent people on Sundays. Stop. No one cares about begating and brother-sister marriages. Stop. Take your morality elsewhere. Stop. I pity those who will have to sit next to you in medical school. Stop. And please, just Stop.
redgrover said:Telling him to shut up because you don't like his message is pathetic and intellectually abbhorent.
On the grounds of propriety, perhaps. Telling someone to leave because you "the terrible people" who value morality, well, I have a feeling they don't like your lifestyle, either, and you're really no better than them at this point. Well done.
Dude, chill. I think it's fair enough to say that this is about gay-friendly medical schools and ask him to leave. And yes, Psycho, it would be wise to do such.
EvoDevo said:Okay folks, the madness ceases right now. If you have something against gays then feel free to post about your belief in the Everyone forum. No one has the right to harass others in this or any other thread because you have a personal religious belief that conflicts with someone else. Stop trashing perfectly innocent conversations.
Mateodaspy said:The next time you get called a "fa.ggot" in the street for holding your partner's hand as you go to a restaurant, then you can feel free to criticize me for wanting to find a gay friendly city for me to spend my time in medical school. In the meantime, shut your hole and get off this thread.
sacrament said:Actually I see we've got a Popeye's at 3120 NE MLK Blvd. I have no idea how gay-friendly it is.
Mateodaspy said:The next time you get called a "fa.ggot" in the street for holding your partner's hand as you go to a restaurant, then you can feel free to criticize me for wanting to find a gay friendly city for me to spend my time in medical school. In the meantime, shut your hole and get off this thread.
tinkerbelle said:I haven't read this whole thread, but isn't Baltimore gay friendly? There are so many gay bars and clubs here... and they are such fun places to go, whether you are gay or straight.
swifteagle43 said:TINK IS A HOTTIE!!
Does the monkey in your avatar not have any arms?swifteagle43 said:TINK IS A HOTTIE!!
Psycho Doctor said:hey i didn't make the rules....
and to mention just a few:
Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
1 Corinthians 6:9 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders."
1 Timothy 1:9 "We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine"
...according to you.tacrum43 said:You're right that you didn't make the rules, but these are not the rules...
...are just postulating just like you...Biblical scholars who
that you know of....have actually gone back to original texts...
Let's also keep in mind that even if Paul meant to say the homosexuality is wrong in all circumstances, who would know more about this issue? Jesus (who never mentioned the subject)
Well, if Paul was a prophet/apostle, then Jesus told him to say that.or Paul.
patzan said:...according to you. ...are just postulating just like you... that you know of.... Well, if Paul was a prophet/apostle, then Jesus told him to say that.
tacrum43 said:Let's also keep in mind that even if Paul meant to say the homosexuality is wrong in all circumstances, who would know more about this issue? Jesus (who never mentioned the subject) or Paul.
patzan said:Before I get flamed (probably too late because it's been up for more than ten seconds
Psycho Doctor said:i guess you don't believe the Bible is the inspired word of God. I'm still trying to figure you out and where you fit in here.
Psycho Doctor said:actually it's not surprising at all. Christian (true ones) beliefs are synonomous with "pro-life, super religious, think homosexuality is a sin, think premarital sex is a sin". And I brought up the Chrisitian issue to indicate i'm also a minority in a morally, /emotionally charged stereotype, and one that often causes controversy, so in many ways i can identify with the situation.
Psycho Doctor said:Christian (true ones) beliefs are synonomous with "pro-life, super religious, think homosexuality is a sin, think premarital sex is a sin".
Psycho Doctor said:And I brought up the Chrisitian issue to indicate i'm also a minority in a morally, /emotionally charged stereotype, and one that often causes controversy, so in many ways i can identify with the situation.
Psycho Doctor said:Since when is homosexuals poverty stricken? I did not come to this thread to enforce my beliefs and wa sonly responding to certain questions; i'm not going to lie in my responses to them.