Glycolysis and the Calvin Cycle

[xaznxcountx]

Does anyone know if we need to memorize the intermediates for both of these processes? I'm struggling just to learn them let alone memorize the intermediates

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[klutzy1987]

Does anyone know if we need to memorize the intermediates for both of these processes? I'm struggling just to learn them let alone memorize the intermediates

You mean the intermediates like Oxaloacetoacetate and citric acid and etc.. No way do you need to know that its a DAT not a biochem test on Glycolysis. Just know what happens and what is created and you should be good i think.

 

[TarheelKid24]

ummm I would know them...just from experience though

 

[Mstoothlady2012]

I think you should know basics like OAA, citric acid, G3P etc...but you don't need to know each and every enzyme, intermediate structure etc. Definitely know how many NADH, FADH2, ATP are produced/used during each step.

 

[achilles2]

know major concepts of each pathway

ex:

glycolysis: occurs in cytosol starting rxt is glucose which yeilds 2 pyruvate (1 six carbon goes to 2 3 carbons)

this process is anarobic

the net ATP yeild is 2, your gross ATP yeild is 4 but it costs 2 to prime the reaction so you end up with 2 ATP...you also generate 2 NADH but since these are outside the mitochandria transporting them in yeilds 1 less ATP per NADH then normal (normally you get 3 ATP per NADH but from the NADH generated in glycolysis you get 2ATP)

and know the rate limiting step, generation of 2,4 bisphosphofructose

also know PEP is an ultra high enegy molecule that should cover you for glycolysis

Know that gluconeogenesis is NOT the reverse of glycolysis its close but you have to use 2 phosphotases to cleave off instead of kinases that put on!!!!




I'll draw up a biochem guide later on it will be good pratice =)

 

[hdu]

Glycolysis

Goodness (Glucose)
Gracious, (Glucose-6-P)
Father (Fructose-6-P)
Franklin (Fructose-1,6-diP)
Did (Dihydroxyacetone-P)
Go (Glyceraldehyde-P)
By (1,3-Biphosphoglycerate)
Picking (3-phosphoglycerate)
Pumpkins (2-phosphoglycerate)
(to)
PrEPare (Phosphoenolpyruvate [PEP])
Pies (Pyruvate)


Citric Acid Cycle (krebs Cycle)

Oh (Oxaloacetate)
Citric (Citrate)
Acid (Aconitate)
Is (Isocitrate)
Of course (Oxalosuccinate)
A (Alpha-ketoglutarate)
Silly (Succinyl-CoA)
Stupid (Succinate)
Funny (Fumarate)
Molecule (Malate)

My blog: www.biochemistryquestions.wordpress.com

 

[klutzy1987]

LMAO you really are funny. Where did you pick this up. I took biochem and i never learn any of these funny nmemonics.

 

[osimsDDS]

Glycolysis

Goodness (Glucose)
Gracious, (Glucose-6-P)
Father (Fructose-6-P)
Franklin (Fructose-1,6-diP)
Did (Dihydroxyacetone-P)
Go (Glyceraldehyde-P)
By (1,3-Biphosphoglycerate)
Picking (3-phosphoglycerate)
Pumpkins (2-phosphoglycerate)
(to)
PrEPare (Phosphoenolpyruvate [PEP])
Pies (Pyruvate)


Citric Acid Cycle (krebs Cycle)

Oh (Oxaloacetate)
Citric (Citrate)
Acid (Aconitate)
Is (Isocitrate)
Of course (Oxalosuccinate)
A (Alpha-ketoglutarate)
Silly (Succinyl-CoA)
Stupid (Succinate)
Funny (Fumarate)
Molecule (Malate)

My blog: www.biochemistryquestions.wordpress.com

HAHAHAHHAHAHA this is hilarious, pies = pyruvate...yummmy

 

[achilles2]

Glycolysis

Goodness (Glucose)
Gracious, (Glucose-6-P)
Father (Fructose-6-P)
Franklin (Fructose-1,6-diP)
Did (Dihydroxyacetone-P)
Go (Glyceraldehyde-P)
By (1,3-Biphosphoglycerate)
Picking (3-phosphoglycerate)
Pumpkins (2-phosphoglycerate)
(to)
PrEPare (Phosphoenolpyruvate [PEP])
Pies (Pyruvate)


Citric Acid Cycle (krebs Cycle)

Oh (Oxaloacetate)
Citric (Citrate)
Acid (Aconitate)
Is (Isocitrate)
Of course (Oxalosuccinate)
A (Alpha-ketoglutarate)
Silly (Succinyl-CoA)
Stupid (Succinate)
Funny (Fumarate)
Molecule (Malate)

My blog: www.biochemistryquestions.wordpress.com

wow those are actually halfway decent if this forum used reps I'd rep ya

 

[xaznxcountx]

wow thanks for all your responses. Its been really helpful.

 

[SummerStudent]

1.
Go (Glucose)
Get (Glucose 6-phosphate)
Free (Fructose 6-phosphate)
Fruit (Fructose 1, 6-bisphosphate)
Dipping(Dihydroxyacetone phosphate)
2.
Go(Glyceraldehyde 3-phosphate)
Buy (1,3-bisphosphoglycerate)
Phoenix(3-phosphoglycerate )
3.
To(two)(2-phosphoglycerate )
Prepare(phosphoenolpyruvate (PEP) )
Pie(pyruvate)

Pheobe Donates (to) Hungry(Pyruvate DeHydrogenase)
Angry(acetyl-CoA)
Krebs
4.
Only(Oxaloacetate)
Citric(Citrate)
Acid (Aconitate)
is (Isocitrate)
Ostracized (Oxalosuccinate)
And (Alpha-ketoglutarate)
Surely(Succinyl-CoA)
Suffers(Succinate)
From(Fumarate)
Melancholy(Malate)

 

[themuffinman11]

Lol this thread is 9 years old, but I really don't think we would need to know every single molecule involved in glycolysis

 

[FeralisExtremum]

Lol this thread is 9 years old, but I really don't think we would need to know every single molecule involved in glycolysis

I honestly don't think you do need to know them all. There are specific ones you should know (e.g. the starting and ending molecules and the molecule that irreversibly commits to glycolysis) but beyond that is excessive.